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What were the rules when you started work?

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QuickGuide · 28/04/2023 15:05

I worked in a bank from 1988. For men shirts must always be white, socks must never be white. For women, no open toed shoes and tights at all times.

But you were allowed to smoke at the counter whilst serving customers 😆

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Willmafrockfit · 28/04/2023 19:53

i did summer holiday work in a factory,
you could drink shandy at lunch time.

in nhs you could drink at lunch time, smoke in your office, or in a particular smoking area.
i can't remember clothing rules,

Tallesttiptoes · 28/04/2023 20:23

Retail, 2000 - workplace relationships banned, if you got together with someone then one of you had to resign. Sweaty polyester blouses and tight pencil skirts. No trousers allowed even though we were climbing ladders in the stock room!

Tourism, 2002 - sweaty polyester blouses and pencil skirts again, used to get bonuses in bottles of Baileys for meeting holiday sales targets.

Local authority 2005 - Friday lunchtimes in pub or local Indian restaurant, a pint or glass of wine at least and everyone a bit tipsy for Friday afternoons and slightly over familiar on emails.

After that it got a lot more boring!

Tallesttiptoes · 28/04/2023 20:25

Remember a local authority colleague looking back fondly on the days in the 80s when she would get pushed into cupboards by the managers and touched up 😳 she seemed quite sad those times were over!

NeverDropYourMooncup · 28/04/2023 20:28

QuickGuide · 28/04/2023 19:44

You must have remembered that wrong. Surely never brown shoes in town?!

They prided themselves upon being a progressive employer 😂they even hired unmarried women - two even had babies!

Theraffarian · 28/04/2023 20:34

There’s a lot of us 80’s bankers on here ! I remember the period very fondly which some younger generations may find odd when I say my job interview when I was still only 15 included questions such as “ will you wear make up every day to work , and wear skirts ? “ . The correct answer being yes.

But clothes wise we actually had a crazy amount of freedom to wear what we wanted , and I remember my favourite boots were over knee suede ones worn with thick tights and mini skirts , or cream jersey suits worn with sky high stilettos , that I could only imagine being able to walk to work and back in and spend all day in now .

Very tight controls on our finances , bank accounts only allowed at your own branch , no overdrafts , and staff accounts checked on pay day to make sure no one had taken cash out at an ATM at a different bank in the previous two days , as it took 2 days for that to debit your account, but was absolutely not allowed if you ran out of money before pay day.

Also have no idea how we survived Friday afternoons , quite frequently took turns to have a two hour pub lunch break and then stumble through the afternoon .

Oddly you could be sacked for any behaviour that bought the bank into disrepute , but drinking was never an issue.

And absolutely no “relationships” between staff members, which if found out would result in the immediate transfer of the female .

evilharpy · 28/04/2023 20:38

Early 2000s small family law firm - had to call the boss Mr. Seems so odd now, I work for a FTSE 100 company and if I called our CEO Mr he'd probably be very confused. Oh and the most junior member of staff had to make the tea for everyone at tea break time and for client meetings.

Other than that it wasn't hugely different to now. One of my friends worked for a local council that still allowed people to smoke at their desk in 2002.

iwantawisteriathisyear · 28/04/2023 20:52

Mangone · 28/04/2023 16:43

Hair had to be pinned up if longer than collar length.
Absolutely no make up whatsoever.
No nail polish, nails very short.
American tan tights.
Black shoes, heel height no higher than half inch.
No visible tattoos.
No unnatural hair colours.
No jewellery, except for a wedding ring.
Uniform clean and ironed, hat and belt straight.
Inspected by the matron prior to shift starting.
Staff addressed correctly, such as sister Jones, doctor Smith etc.
Mid seventies nurse.

I was a nurse at that time. Same rules but we were encouraged to wear 'light makeup' as it cheered up the male patients.

Willmafrockfit · 28/04/2023 21:01

mid 1980s,
called the boss Mr too
i remember my dm laughing and asking if they called me Miss

Swannning · 28/04/2023 21:03

I worked in a depot for a TV rental company in the late 80s, there were no rules and just shocking behaviour.

-smoking at desks was normal
-page 3 pics up in the workshop,
-a strippergram was ordered for one of the managers 50th birthdays, she arrived pretending to be an angry customer and then stripped off in the main office, removed his shirt and spanked his bum with the whole staff whooping and cheering
-one of the managers used to take all the post to the sorting office each evening, but whoever was on the rota to parcel up all the post had to give him a hug when they took it to his office
-several vans got stolen and were seen at a nearby traveller camp, they reported it to the police who said they couldn't get them back so the boss mustered a posse of the male staff, they went and bought a couple of axes and drove to the camp and started smashing up caravans and took the vans back
-one manager was shagging a member of office staff (both married to other people), not just on the quiet, they were at it in his office during the day and rumour has it they were caught at it in the lift one day

blueshoes · 28/04/2023 21:33

Have people seen this video? Not my workplace I hasten to add

Pearfacebananapoop · 28/04/2023 21:39

I used to work for a major events complex (think NEC / SECC/ Arena type place).

Now this is before my time but back in the day it had a staff room where the exec allegedly quaffed champagne all day. Now oddly this room was on top of the building itself yet also designed as the bomb shelter in case of a terrorist attack. I never understood why it was on the top? And presumably if anything happened the leadership would have all been pissed anyway!

Onehappymam · 29/04/2023 00:26

I applied for a teaching post in the early 2000s. On the morning of the interview I was given a tour of the school. The head of department joked that I’d do well to nip home and change into something a bit more busty as the member of SLT on the interview panel was a breast man. Confused

delfttulipvase · 29/04/2023 08:46

Last 1990s, charity.

One computer for the entire organisation- 40 odd of us - in the chief executive's office. If you wanted to send an email, you had to go and discuss with him whether it was an appropriate use of resources Grin

user1471538283 · 29/04/2023 09:52

When I first started work you could wear what you liked but it had to be really fashionable. You could smoke at your desk. We all worked really long hours and went to the bar straight after work. I wrote mainly long hand although there was a pc. Copy went to a printers. A really long commute and I used to read the entire time.

It seems like another world now.

TheOtherHotstepper · 29/04/2023 10:19

Law firms in the 1970s/80s.

The men had to keep their jackets on at their desks at all times unless it was a particularly hot day and a 'shirtsleeve order' was issued by the most senior partner in the building at the time.

Wine bar at lunchtime, pub after work. This was in Central London.

It was pretty much the same in the provinces. One of my fellow secretaries walked out of the building one night and lit up a cigarette. She was called in by the senior partner the next morning and berated for 'behaving like a shop girl'.

wizzler · 29/04/2023 10:26

Early 90s . You only got a chair with arms if you became a manager. Similarly hardback note books

MrsSkylerWhite · 29/04/2023 10:28

Investment bank, mid-80s. Women were not allowed to wear trousers or to buy a drink in the wine bar next door, a man had to buy for them.

DemonicCaveMaggot · 29/04/2023 10:45

wizzler we had furniture rules too. Technicians got chairs with legs, engineers and chemists got chairs with wheels, the senior managers got wheeled chairs that could be reclined.

bimsup · 29/04/2023 11:08

BBC. Mid 1990s.

  1. Champagne at 8.30am after the Friday programme.
  2. Tea lady who favoured certain employees with pastries (but her out-of-favour employees got bruised apples.)
  3. long boozy lunches at top restaurants in London, all on expenses. Favoured females would be invited on the understanding that they "put out" for the male managers or allowed themselves to be groped.
  4. Managing editor who would repeatedly touch up any female employee after he'd had a drink.
  5. Reporter who date-raped more than one female employee by putting a drug in their drinks. The management knew about this but nothing was done other than a warning to women not to go out with the reporter.
  6. Female journalists got on-air time as presenters if they were dating the boss of the programme or unit. If they broke up, those females would suddenly lose their on-air presenting time because the manager's new bit of stuff was suddenly promoted to being the presenter. This happened with so many women and was still going on 20 years later. The irony was that those who complained after favouritism shown to others after they'd been dropped, even though everyone knew they'd only been given presenting time in the first place because they were going out with the boss. Multiple famous female presenters got famous this way.
MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 29/04/2023 11:38

The men had to keep their jackets on at their desks at all times unless it was a particularly hot day and a 'shirtsleeve order' was issued by the most senior partner in the building at the time

I worked for a European bank in the 90s and there was one man who kept his jacket on at all times, no-one else bothered. No matter what the weather forecast said, heatwaves weren't officially heatwaves until Brendan took his jacket off (happened twice in the 12 years I was there).

IfIGoThereWillBeTrouble · 29/04/2023 12:02

@Onthegrid
It was mainly manual coding of cheques which meant speed inputting of numbers with 100% accuracy

was that with the S40 machines? Even now I can use the number pad on a keyboard with lightning speed!

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 29/04/2023 12:03

Tax department in the London office of a big accountancy firm, late 1980s. It was essential to have a dictaphone as that was the most efficient way to draft letters and memos. We had no PCs of our own. You either wrote out something by hand and put it in the in tray of your allocated word processor operator, or you dictated your text and put the tape in her tray. (They were all young women.)

If something was urgent, people would move their draft/tape to the top of the pile. Otherwise the WP operator was expected to work through her pile in the order it arrived in the tray. She would type the thing up, save it on the firm's mainframe (astonishing new capability of the word processor!), print it off on a flimsy sheet of white paper, the author would check it and mark up corrections, put the flimsy back, eventually a perfect draft would emerge and be submitted to the manager for approval - at which point it was not at all unusual for the manager to re-draft the whole thing, so it would all start again.

Once the manager, or less commonly, the partner, had approved the draft, the WP operator would produce a final version - three copies? Possibly even four. The top copy was on headed white paper which would be checked and signed by a manager or partner (nobody else was allowed to sign letters) and then be posted or possibly faxed to the recipient.

The first carbon copy was on flimsy paper - yellow? This was the copy to go in the client's file. The second carbon copy was on flimsy paper of another colour and this went in another file - maybe for the partner's information. Incredibly cumbersome and slow!

Sometimes an urgent letter would be typed by a partner's secretary on an old electric typewriter as it was actually quicker than getting the WP operator to do it. Partners' secretaries were generally older ladies with incredibly good typing speeds and accuracy. (It was absolutely essential to stay on good terms with your WP operator and all the partners' secretaries as then they might be more willing to prioritise your work.)

Because there were so many paper files, a good proportion of the office space was devoted to filing cabinets full of cardboard files of different colours, which clerical staff looked after. What a boring job it must have been, filing all those flimsies. Lots and lots of paper dust too.

Anyway, back to the dictaphone. When I first started, I was allocated an ancient machine which was a bit temperamental. The man charged with issuing the dictaphones to the hundreds of members of staff entitled to have one had an office on the ground floor and he regarded it as a sacred task to save the firm's money and make the dictaphones last as long as possible. (I think he may also have been charged with operating the fax machine. I can't remember how we sent faxes out of hours when he wasn't there.) He may have been called Ken.

I asked Ken very nicely if I could have a new dictaphone and he said no, there was nothing wrong with the one I had. I mentioned this to a colleague, who rolled his eyes, opened a window and dropped the dictaphone out (two floors up)! Did the trick. Ken wasn't too pleased but even he couldn't expect me to use it after that.

fetchacloth · 29/04/2023 12:08

My first job in the 1980s, ladies couldn't wear trousers or open sandals. There was no uniform as such but we had to wear a jacket that matched the skirt. Hosiery had to be a natural tan colour.
Cardigans were banned.

mrsfeatherbottom · 29/04/2023 12:12

Ah, I had forgotten about the drinking! Late 90s in an office. There was a pub next door and my manager, who I realised later was a functioning alcoholic, easily would drink 5 pints at lunch. Some afternoons, I would dive to answer his phone because he would talk such shite to the customers when he was pissed. He left after a few months and I got his job!

Vitriolinsanity · 29/04/2023 15:08

@IfIGoThereWillBeTrouble I had a colleague that was a complete nobber and, rather than keep an eye on the light to ensure the balance was right, would code merrily away.

Then at 3:30, Mandy (scary as fuck supervisor) would appear, realise hundreds of items had gone through and The Tick Back would start.

It didn't matter how many times Nobber was reminded, she just processed away. I hated her.