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Sudan. Why is repatriating British citizens caught up there all over the news?

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Fordian · 26/04/2023 22:20

I don't recall this since Afghanistan? But even then, it was rescuing Afghans who'd assisted the west.

I am genuinely interested in knowing why, in this conflict, so much say, BBC news- is about the rescue of this group from Sudan?

Please note, I'm not disputing the worthiness if this effort, just wondering why THIS conflict's rescue efforts has resonance on MSM?

Yemen? Nothing. Unless there are a negligible %age of the population?

I don't know!

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LivingDeadGirlUK · 27/04/2023 20:09

I found the newscast episode covering the evacuation interesting https://open.spotify.com/episode/0ZbshBHgpQzoXZSXa5vMGx?si=fqmTEE8FRYSMVJNa-lNLIg they don't just try and be sensational for the sake of it like others.

Spotify

https://open.spotify.com/episode/0ZbshBHgpQzoXZSXa5vMGx?si=fqmTEE8FRYSMVJNa-lNLIg

Fordian · 28/04/2023 23:49

Iwasafool · 27/04/2023 10:51

Wouldn't the child of a British citizen normally have British citizenship automatically? Would they need a visa?

No. I'm British (both parents British for hundreds of years); but I was born in an overseas territory in the '60's (East Africa). My DC were born in Oz.

Had my parents been on holiday in EA at the time of my birth, I could not gave passed my UK citizenship to them.

Luckily, my own mother kept all the documentation to prove my father worked in EA under the Crown Service; thus my DC can claim my citizenship; otherwise not.

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Fordian · 28/04/2023 23:51

Someone said 'Rules change'. Yes, they do. Prior to Thatcher, my Oz born DH of an English grandparent could have claimed British citizenship. Post her edict, no.

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SammyScrounge · 24/04/2024 01:59

Tallcurves · 27/04/2023 04:19

@Kinsters

i think the difference is if pqid for its in the UK. This is not. I think the jurisdiction is important.

Ps don’t you think people who break the law should be billed for the police chase?

don’t you think there is an increase in lack of personal responsibility ?

Like the little.boat people in the channel?

MrsTerryPratchett · 24/04/2024 02:29

The other point is that if you are a dual national and in the country where you have that nationality then you can't access consular services. So people who have Sudanese nationality and British, while they are in Sudan that nationality takes precedence, they can't access UK consular assistance. I think people don't understand that.

I've entered the UK on my other passport (when I didn't have a UK one) and they let me enter with a tourist visa. In that case, technically, I think I'm eligible for consular assistance from the other country while in the UK. I mean if the UK objected or the other country did I'm probably just like anyone else, but still. I'm careful to enter third countries on the most 'useful' passport. I recommend NZ to anyone shopping. The NZ consulate staff always answer the phone and are lovely! Marry a Kiwi.

I have a Central American friend who spent years working for an NGO. She was in Haiti at one point and they were very concerned. Her NGO had evacuation plans for her and a few foreign staff. She asked them if they planned to evacuate the Haitian staff. They said no. Being from a war-torn hell hole herself, she asked, "if we were in Guatemala right now, you wouldn't evacuate me, right? I'd be left to die". The answer was that yes, she would be left to die. People should feel extremely lucky to have a UK passport. It's an incredible privilege and we forget how unfair and dangerous life can be because of an accident of birth.

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