If you live in Greater Manchester but not the City of Manchester - do you see yourself as a Mancunian?

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Was having a chat with a colleague who live in Wigan (which I believe is in Greater Manchester) but she doesn’t view herself as someone from Manchester.

I live in the West Midlands county but I don’t view myself as a Brummie.

No

No, she's from Wigan.

That's because she's a Wiganer, not a Mancunian. Pretty simple stuff.

I'm from Stockport (which is Gtr Manchester) and I'm from Cheshire/Nr Manchester/Stockport/The NW - depending on who I speaking to

Yes otherwise I'd be a stopfordian and that's not as cool...

Isn’t wigan part of Greater Manchester? That’s why I asked the question and wondered how it varied

Wigan’s quite a bit further out. I’m from closer to Manchester airport and would def consider myself a Mancunian.

Wigan is very distinctly not Manchester.

I live in Trafford just on the City borders and although I'm not a Manc, my children are born and brought up in Trafford and would say they are Mancunian.

I would say Trafford, Stockport, Ashton, Bury, Salford ppl would be likely to say they were Mancunian. Wigan, Bolton and Oldham, much less so.

No . I live in Wigan . I put Lancashire as my county on my address not Greater Manchester .

Also live in Wigan. Not a mancunian. Don't consider myself anything tbh as I was born in Liverpool, moved to Widnes aged 6, st helens aged 9 and wigan aged 23. I've no idea who I am 🤣. I've been in wigan the longest now, 15 years. But still... I'm just me!

Greater Manchester covers a much bigger area - it’s more county sized. If you don’t go into Manchester much, because you spend time in other more nearby big towns, then you probably don’t identify as much with it. Greater London isn’t exactly the same as London either. Like, if you lived in Chessington you might say to people who didn’t know the area that you’re broadly from London, but you might not consider yourself a Londoner in the same way as someone who lives in zone 2.

Large parts of Greater Manchester are part of other historic counties. Wigan is similar - I have no clue why it's even part of 'Greater Manchester' as it's closer to Lancashire and so far away.

Tameside resident here. 20 min drive from Manchester Piccadilly, so yes Mancunian and proud!

Definitely not.

Also OP I'm guessing it depends on how much the 'local' place has an identity of its own?
I'm a city girl. Most of my social life revolves around Manchester. There's little to do in my rundown town centre (although I live in a 'nice street'). I moved here from Altrincham which I quite liked but couldn't quite afford. People there identify as being from Cheshire, not Manchester, as it's more uppercrust.

Where I live used is part of the historic county of Cheshire too but poles apart in terms of affluence etc. There's no point in 'identifying'.

OTOH Stockport has a lot more going on. As a major town it has an identity of an own. If I lived there I'd certainly say 'Stockport' instead of Manchester.

It all depends honestly.

There are places like Saddleworth which are beautiful villages. Historically part of Yorkshire, not in 'Greater Manchester'. It's a 40 min drive to Manchester and and 1.5 hour train journey so I don't think they'd spend enough time there to identify with it.

Chadderton? Probably Mancunian. It, like Saddleworth is in the same 'borough' Oldham but 20 mins away, just like I am. Feel free to correct me though if anyone here's from there

Is it not very insulting to Salfordians to call them mancunians, I thought they had a real complex about people calling Salford Manchester!

Greater Manchester was only created in 1974. Much of the area before then was in Lancashire and a lot of people still consider themselves Lancastrians. They'll be Wiganers first, then Lancastrians, then Northerners, then English then....(it goes on).

In fact, even Manchester itself was in Lancashire. As was Liverpool.

That’s really interesting. Never thought of it that way. Thanks for taking the time to share that.

I don't know about born and bred, but the young people who've moved there call themselves Mancunians. They certainly chose it for its proximity to Manchester and spend a lot of time there (although Salford isn't short of things to do!). The abundance of trams makes it very... Manchester seeming. Of course it depends on which part of Salford. My older colleagues - mostly property owners and as calling it 'Manchester' seems to increase house prices and tenants they are quite happy for that to continue.

I'm also an incomer so probably not the best to comment. Just my observations. I've lived here ;ls than a decade...

Somewhat generational. I find the younger ones are more likely to see themselves as Manc.

I agree. The folk of both Salford and Bury will be most offended if you call them Mancunians.

I'm from Sale. When I was a child it was Sale, Cheshire. Then Sale, Greater Manchester. I think we are in Trafford though actually. But I do think of myself as a Manc.

I'm in Greater Manchester and Im very much NOT a mancunian. I'm not against it because I like Manchester but Im just not. Accents very different, my childhood memories don't involve Manchester.

No worries! I'm glad it helped despite all the typos. I meant to say Saddleworth is part of Greater Manchester, historic county of Yorkshire (east Riding I think it is). But I guess you got the gist of it

Hmm, I think Bury is another one that depends. People living at the Prestwich end are more Manc defined than those out further north beyond Bury town centre.

Nope. You'll get the talk if you say to people from Salford they are Mancunian. Although they do say going into town and meaning Manchester City centre

I recall Shaun Ryder getting shirty with an interviewer saying he was from Manchester saying 'nah I’m over the bridge on the other side of the river'