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Help calculate pro rota pay please! Can I afford this new job I just accepted?!

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Tagnuts · 30/03/2023 22:18

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My new job is 8.15am - 5pm
Weekdays only
Term time only, no bank holidays working
£10 hour
25 days paid holiday
Pro rata pay

Was told I will be paid every month even during school holidays, but because I’m starting the job ‘when the school year has already begun’ I will receive less per month than usual.
It’s not teaching but a similar environment.

This is a dream job, and I don’t want to rock the boat on my first day asking about pay !

Can anyone calculate my monthly pay from the above info? Thankyou !

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Tagnuts · 30/03/2023 22:20

185 days per year

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Regularsizedrudy · 30/03/2023 22:21

Why don’t you ask them?

PercyMcPigface · 30/03/2023 22:21

How old are you? If you're older than 23 I hope the pay is going to be at least £10.41 an hour

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MumofSpud · 30/03/2023 22:23

Pro rata is used when a salary is given - per annum but you do not work all year round ie in a school
Here you have been given an hourly wage so pro rata is not used
How long is your break and is it unpaid?

Whereisthesun99 · 30/03/2023 22:25

So roughly 9 hours a day if paid for your lunch break £90
£90 x 5 days = £450
£450x39 weeks in a school term if state school £17,550
£17,550/ 12 £ £1,462.50 before tax, NI , pension et.

Tagnuts · 30/03/2023 22:26

I don’t want to ask as at interview I mentioned money wasn’t as important to me as the role, I’m moving from manual labour into a dream job role.

Yes I’m over 23.

The pay rate is £10 hour

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Greengrassgone · 30/03/2023 22:28

£10.an hour is below the April 23 minimum wage. They should be paying more if you are 23+ years.

Iwasjustasking · 30/03/2023 22:28

National minimum wage is going up to £10.41 on first of April so has to be at least that if you are over 23 otherwise it is illegal.

Regularsizedrudy · 30/03/2023 22:28

What is the wording on the job ad? Because it makes no sense to have an hourly rate and then say pro rata. Pro rata means you are paid a fraction of a full time salary. A salaried role does not have an hourly rate because you are being paid per annum not per hour.

sidsgranny · 30/03/2023 22:29

Minimum wage for over 23 is £10.42 per hour.

notapizzaeater · 30/03/2023 22:29

Minimum wage goes up on Saturday to £10.42 for over 23s

user143777534 · 30/03/2023 22:30

Whereisthesun99 · 30/03/2023 22:25

So roughly 9 hours a day if paid for your lunch break £90
£90 x 5 days = £450
£450x39 weeks in a school term if state school £17,550
£17,550/ 12 £ £1,462.50 before tax, NI , pension et.

I agree with this, but think additional to this calculation the prorata relates to staring part way through the school year. Unfortunately I think you will need to ask them for the basis for that part of the calculation because, unless you are on a fixed term contract, I don’t think it should reduce your pay.

It might be that you will be paid prorata until the end of the summer holidays and then go up to normal rate. In which case calculate your pay to the end of summer term based on hourly rate, then divide by number of months to end of summer holidays.

Greengrassgone · 30/03/2023 22:30

It is illegal for your employer to pay you below the National Living Wage.

Tagnuts · 30/03/2023 22:31

Sorry, they said I’m paid ‘like pro rata’, so : every month even during school holidays. The pay rate is currently £10 hour. It will obviously increase to the new minimum hourly rate in April.

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Regularsizedrudy · 30/03/2023 22:31

Tagnuts · 30/03/2023 22:26

I don’t want to ask as at interview I mentioned money wasn’t as important to me as the role, I’m moving from manual labour into a dream job role.

Yes I’m over 23.

The pay rate is £10 hour

They really aren’t going to mind you asking! They will understand this is info you need to plan your life/budget

Tagnuts · 30/03/2023 22:32

What I don’t understand is when they said because I’m starting the job ‘when the school year has already begun’ I will receive less per month.

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TheMatriarchy · 30/03/2023 22:34

Pro rata is applied to a annual salary not an hourly rate. You cannot pro rata £10/hour because then it would be much much less than the minimum wage. You need to get them to clarify what the annual salary is, or if it is £10/hr, it cannot be both.

Housefullofcatsandkids · 30/03/2023 22:34

Tagnuts · 30/03/2023 22:32

What I don’t understand is when they said because I’m starting the job ‘when the school year has already begun’ I will receive less per month.

Because there's 6 weeks holidays coming up soon and you've not worked the Sep-Mar so you've got a higher ratio of unpaid days:paid days over the next 6 months

TheMatriarchy · 30/03/2023 22:36

The 25 days paid leave per year will be pro rata, 2.08 days leave accruing per month worked.

somuchtolearnabout · 30/03/2023 22:37

This is a dream job, and I don’t want to rock the boat on my first day asking about pay !

Are you a charity then? This is such an odd way to look at it. You're working as an employee, not as a volunteer. Meaning you're getting paid and it would be utterly ridiculous, not to mention irresponsible, for you to not clarify exactly what the pay will be before starting.

Bearpawk · 30/03/2023 22:37

What is this dream job that pays minimum wage?

ArcticSkewer · 30/03/2023 22:39

Tagnuts · 30/03/2023 22:32

What I don’t understand is when they said because I’m starting the job ‘when the school year has already begun’ I will receive less per month.

The main unworked part of the job is coming up ... summer ... but you can't spread that unpaid time across the year.

Say you get paid £1000 a month when you work, and you work for 9 months of the year. You earn £9000. But you are paid that across 12 months, not 9. So you get £750 a month

Now say you only work for 3 months of this year - £3000 - but then you get 3 months off. So your £3000 is spread across 6 months, making only £500 per month

Starseeed · 30/03/2023 22:41

somuchtolearnabout · 30/03/2023 22:37

This is a dream job, and I don’t want to rock the boat on my first day asking about pay !

Are you a charity then? This is such an odd way to look at it. You're working as an employee, not as a volunteer. Meaning you're getting paid and it would be utterly ridiculous, not to mention irresponsible, for you to not clarify exactly what the pay will be before starting.

This!!! Please clarify your pay - you’d be a numpty not to. Have a healthy regard for yourself and stand up for yourself. It isn’t rocking the boat to be clear on what you’re being paid.

You won’t come across as motivated by money to be sensible about whether you can afford to have this job. You need to be able to calculate your expenses like getting to work.

Regularsizedrudy · 30/03/2023 22:42

Bearpawk · 30/03/2023 22:37

What is this dream job that pays minimum wage?

I’m sorry but this is just nasty. We all start somewhere.

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