Dealer hitman Thomas Cashman, 34, guilty of murdering Olivia Pratt-Korbel

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Voted guilty by the jury. Thank goodness.

Feel such relief at this verdict. I only hope Olivia’s mum can find some peace.

I don’t understand why you’d barge into someone’s house and fire a gun when you can say that there’s innocent civilians around? I really don’t know why he thought that was okay….

Glad he got found guilty. Yes you shot and killed the wrong person by accident but that really doesn’t make you innocent at all. Disgusting

It's because people like him have zero regard for anyone but themselves, and because he has come to find guns and violence normal. Just one look at his family and their behaviour in court gives you your answer.

One of the many reasons drugs such be legalized. Take the money and power away from the drug lords. Tax it. Control the potency and shite it's mixed with. Free up the prisons from people caught up in it. Stop county lines. Easier to offer help and support to people addicted. Take away the excitement factor for teens.

The woman who testified against the scumbag is such a hero. So brave.

The way the incident unfolded was awful. Poor baby and the poor mum. Hope he rots.

If only it was so easy @Wedoronron

Can anyone explain why it was murder and not manslaughter, given that he was chasing and shooting at a man, rather than Olivia? I'm not downplaying what he did at all, I just thought to be convicted of murder you had to be shown to have intended to kill the deceased.

I think if you indiscriminately fire a gun into someone's house, you are aware that you could kill someone who isn't your intended victim.

There's a lot that doesn't make sense. I don't think I read anything at any time that explained the relationship between him and Nee and why he was after him. Nee didn't take the stand or have a statement read out in court, I don't think? And it transpired one of the witnesses is actually being done for assisting an offender. It sounds like there's a lot that isn't public but I haven't read anything that explains why, which you'd think would be necessary.

I don't want to get deleted but there are rumours that Cashman has been involved in a lot of past trouble, and if that's true he's where he deserves to be regardless of this awful case. That's hardly open justice though is it.

An utter tragedy. That poor little girl.

There are now more facts about Cashman now he's been convicted, he was a known enforcer for organised drug gangs, who was out to get Nee after he'd supposedly robbed one of their grow houses.

Because in the eyes of the law, the intent to kill is enough to satisfy the definition of murder. The fact that he was aiming to kill someone else and killed Olivia instead doesn’t change the intent behind his actions.

I wondered if more would come out now. Why would that not be relevant to the trial though? Perhaps there are other related court cases going on. Even so shouldn't that have been made clear for the record?

This. For example, if you poison a box of chocolates and they are eaten by someone other than your intended victim, you still have the necessary intent to kill for murder... you can't say "Oh, but I didn't intend to kill that person, I intended to kill this person instead". This is even if you didn't actually want to kill the person who died... for example, your child ate the chocolates rather than your partner.

Do you have doubts about the conviction?

I think the person who drove him and disposed of his clothes after he went round to the woman's house has already been convicted of assisting an offender. He pleaded guilty I think.

Nee family a notorious criminal family with plenty of enemies.

"Explained the relationship between him and Nee"

😅 tell me you've zero idea of Liverpool gangs without telling me you've zero idea about Liverpool gangs.

Fucking knobheads they are who will never ever stop. Ever.

What are you being a nob for

Do you have doubts about the conviction?

No, and the fact the verdict was unanimous tells the jury weren't having it for a minute. I'll take that over my armchair sleuthing.

What is utterly shocking is he could sit in the dock and deny, deny, deny - cry that he couldn't do a thing like that because he was a dad, give away so much detail about the ins and outs of his dealing. It is just so hard for any right-thinking person to believe someone who had accidentally murdered a child would not just crumple and confess, but keep doing anything to save his own skin even well after the game was up.

In written reports his lying sounded plausible, that was the bit where I wobbled - he must have been a crap actor on the stand, thank goodness.

Didn't mean it like that, I know it wasn't a random thing, just wondered why none of that background was necessary to explain on the record in court.

Thank you for ensuring fair trials. Without someone to defend him our legal system collapses. So thank you

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/child-killer-hitman-drug-dealer-26598764

More background to Cashman.

Nee is a convicted dealer who has been shot before.

I don't think you have to prove a motive for a conviction.

Maybe the police don't know the exact background. They may have suspicions but all hearsay, nothing concrete.

Even Nee himself didn't spill to police who the person trying to shoot him was. He obviously said very little.

There needs to be more out there to discourage older people taking drugs.

I’ve known at least 2 people in their 40s die of drugs related causes in past 2 years.

Yes, I went clubbing and took drugs in my 20s and we all knew where they came from too.

I’ve only taken drugs twice in my 30s and then on for next 15 or so years I’d never take them and never will. But countless people I know take it “for a laugh”, they don’t care where it’s from etc. They think they deserve a bit of fun.

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They won't refer to previous convictions so as not to influence the jury, he was a career criminal not some poor sod who got mixed up with eh wrong crowd.
Often the police are aware of these people but been unable to arrest/convict.

As an aside, what will happen to Cashman's House and possessions if the authorities know they were bought with the proceeds of crime? Will they be seized and sold?

Might help to start a foundation in Olivia's name to help the community and victims or crime.

"As an aside, what will happen to Cashman's House and possessions if the authorities know they were bought with the proceeds of crime? Will they be seized and sold?"

Yes