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Would you want to know if one of these people lived on your street *content warning - SO*

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usernamechanged1 · 24/03/2023 21:09

Was careful with the title so as not to cause any unwanted distress.

I watched Stacey Dooley’s documentary where she went to Florida and they literally signpost “The occupant of (address) is a convicted sex offender” at the edge of the neighbourhood. They also have an online database where you can put someone’s name in and see if they have convictions of that nature. It’ll tell you what they’ve done and when.

I know there are a few illegal websites in the UK which do the same, but nothing published by the police or government, as in the US.

Would you like to see something like this available?

Would you want to know if a convicted sex offender or paedophile lived on your street?

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LonelyInTheOcean · 25/03/2023 12:20

Northernsouloldies · 25/03/2023 12:12

And what would you do with that information also what if you were looking at old information and it went round a neighbourhood that the the guy at no. 99 is a paedophile. When in fact the guy at no. 99 has just moved in and is just an ordinary neighbour with no criminal records. How would you put that right?.

I would want to know for myself and my family, not to gossip.
I would avoid that person and not interact with them.
If I was looking to buy a house I wouldn’t buy one next door to one.
Im not tolerant of sex offenders and giving them second chances. It doesn’t matter to me how others view them.
I feel sorry for people related to them and married to them, as they obviously end up being viewed differently too if people know. But they aren’t my problem.

Northernsouloldies · 25/03/2023 12:30

Sorry you have not answered my question all you have done is highlight why you would want to know about a sex offender which is fair enough. But you have given no answer as to if the information was out of date and a completely innocent person was rumoured to be said paedophile based on wrong information. And it could happen as people always believe the worst in others.

usernamechanged1 · 25/03/2023 12:31

x2boys · 24/03/2023 22:38

I would say you have more of a chance of keeping your children safe if you KNOW your neighbour is a convicted Rapist or paedophile
What if your next door neighbour is a Rapist or paedophile who.has never been caught ??

That’s a bit of a different issue. The original post referred to convicted ones.

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Giggorata · 25/03/2023 12:31

You cannot know who in the neighbourhood is a paedophile.
You might get to know who is a convicted paedophile, but this would lead to all sorts of bad shit detailed upthread, and still not guarantee safety.

Safeguarding is everyone's business.
It is the duty of parents, relatives, professionals and the wider community to be vigilant, educate the children and as much as they can, to ensure safety and oversight.
Generally, assume that everyone and anyone might be a paedophile, and take appropriate precautions.
That is more or less the advice given to parents by my Local Authority Children's Safeguarding Team.

usernamechanged1 · 25/03/2023 12:33

Northernsouloldies · 25/03/2023 12:30

Sorry you have not answered my question all you have done is highlight why you would want to know about a sex offender which is fair enough. But you have given no answer as to if the information was out of date and a completely innocent person was rumoured to be said paedophile based on wrong information. And it could happen as people always believe the worst in others.

I think a system like that would need to be kept live, similar to the ankle tagging one. One that can be checked 24/7. It’d cost a fortune.

I also think that in order to protect the innocent (similar names, common names etc), they’d need to publish more information than just a name. Date of birth etc would need to come along with it. But that’s a whole other debate…

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pncr · 25/03/2023 12:38

Giggorata · 25/03/2023 12:31

You cannot know who in the neighbourhood is a paedophile.
You might get to know who is a convicted paedophile, but this would lead to all sorts of bad shit detailed upthread, and still not guarantee safety.

Safeguarding is everyone's business.
It is the duty of parents, relatives, professionals and the wider community to be vigilant, educate the children and as much as they can, to ensure safety and oversight.
Generally, assume that everyone and anyone might be a paedophile, and take appropriate precautions.
That is more or less the advice given to parents by my Local Authority Children's Safeguarding Team.

This.

Northernsouloldies · 25/03/2023 12:38

usernamechanged1 · 25/03/2023 12:33

I think a system like that would need to be kept live, similar to the ankle tagging one. One that can be checked 24/7. It’d cost a fortune.

I also think that in order to protect the innocent (similar names, common names etc), they’d need to publish more information than just a name. Date of birth etc would need to come along with it. But that’s a whole other debate…

Agree wholeheartedly.

Laptopneeded · 25/03/2023 12:45

Yes I'd definitely want to know.

Absolutely, my road is cheek my jowl my girls bedrooms are over looked.
To be forewarned is to be for armed

Laptopneeded · 25/03/2023 12:47

@Giggorata

But most people don't agree and unfortunately let down their barriers because so and so is a teacher of gymnastics or swimming or this and that. Or a beloved uncle or neighbour etc.

ToastMarmalade · 25/03/2023 13:56

Giggorata · 25/03/2023 12:31

You cannot know who in the neighbourhood is a paedophile.
You might get to know who is a convicted paedophile, but this would lead to all sorts of bad shit detailed upthread, and still not guarantee safety.

Safeguarding is everyone's business.
It is the duty of parents, relatives, professionals and the wider community to be vigilant, educate the children and as much as they can, to ensure safety and oversight.
Generally, assume that everyone and anyone might be a paedophile, and take appropriate precautions.
That is more or less the advice given to parents by my Local Authority Children's Safeguarding Team.

It’s actually quite hard to safeguard, I have a child with SEN and I get flack all the time and told that I’m way too over cautious ‘helicopter parent’ etc. It’s been really tough to stick up for my child, who is particularly vulnerable to predators. Basically my child has to have a trusted adult supervising at all times, but in laws for example are adamant that this is way over the top for example, or even SEN clubs where they let them go to the toilet by themselves in shopping centres. Small things but actually not OK, last year one child locally with SEN was abused in the public toilets. We need to have better awareness of safeguarding as parents, and more support I think for parents who do!

HighInfidelity · 25/03/2023 14:25

Laptopneeded · 25/03/2023 12:47

@Giggorata

But most people don't agree and unfortunately let down their barriers because so and so is a teacher of gymnastics or swimming or this and that. Or a beloved uncle or neighbour etc.

And they would probably let their guards down even more if they knew those people had no convictions. But no convictions does not mean they aren’t a sex offender. Knowing who has been convicted just gives a false sense of security when the reality is that absolutely anybody could be a sex offender as huge numbers of them are never reported and never convicted.

Laptopneeded · 25/03/2023 15:01

Well what they do isn't my business but I'd definitely want to know if someone's got a 100% predilitction for children

gumball37 · 26/03/2023 03:09

I am in the US. They have pictures included. They're updated on a regular basis for as long as the person remains on the list.

As to the OP...we have this, in my state "Megan's Law". It came about after a little girl named Megan was abducted, sexually assaulted, and murdered by a convicted predator that lived across the street from her family. Had they have known they may have been able to be more vigilant...is the assumption the law (and searchable database) was created for.

x2boys · 26/03/2023 16:10

gumball37 · 26/03/2023 03:09

I am in the US. They have pictures included. They're updated on a regular basis for as long as the person remains on the list.

As to the OP...we have this, in my state "Megan's Law". It came about after a little girl named Megan was abducted, sexually assaulted, and murdered by a convicted predator that lived across the street from her family. Had they have known they may have been able to be more vigilant...is the assumption the law (and searchable database) was created for.

Whilst that's extremely sad ,Surely we should all before vigilant about everyone ?
I keep repeating my self but a paedophile who has never been caught or convicted is still.a paedophile..

AliceOlive · 26/03/2023 22:35

@x2boys
So since someone might be a pedophile but never yet caught, you don’t want anyone to know which ones have been caught and convicted?

usernamechanged1 · 26/03/2023 23:02

I’m not sure why SOs who haven’t been caught and convicted keep coming up. Of course they could be anywhere. Just like murderers, burglars, drug dealers etc.

The whole point in the thread was relating to caught, convicted ones. I can’t get my head around anyone not being bothered if they had one next door.

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That would be my worry too. It’s fine to say “my kids are young and never alone, when they’re older they’ll be taught about strangers” but what about your 5 year old in the paddling pool in summer being watched from the upstairs window next door?

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ThereIbledit · 26/03/2023 23:26

No, I would feel less safe, despite being no less safe than when I didn't know, and I think it would do bad things to women's mental health in general. I think vigilante groups would take things too far, and much though I despise sex offenders I think it's their human right to go about their (non-offending!) life peacefully, and I don't think that would happen, I think they'd get called slurs, attacked, people wouldn't do business with them, they'd have their property constantly vandalised etc. Much though I think they justice system is majorly flawed when it comes to conviction and punishment of sex offenders, and much though I don't particularly care what happens to a sex offender this is superseded by the fact that human rights aren't negotiable, ever. They must be fore everyone, even people who have breached the human rights of others.

ThereIbledit · 26/03/2023 23:29

House prices for those next door to, and in the same neighbourhood would fall. Would you be happy if your property depreciated by a massive % overnight because your neighbour got convincted?

HighInfidelity · 26/03/2023 23:29

usernamechanged1 · 26/03/2023 23:02

I’m not sure why SOs who haven’t been caught and convicted keep coming up. Of course they could be anywhere. Just like murderers, burglars, drug dealers etc.

The whole point in the thread was relating to caught, convicted ones. I can’t get my head around anyone not being bothered if they had one next door.

They’re brought up because of the fact that people will lower their guard if they think they know who the local sex offenders are. It makes people feel safe when they can access this list but a lot, possibly even most, sex offenders will not be on that list.

QueefQueen80s · 26/03/2023 23:30

ThereIbledit · 26/03/2023 23:26

No, I would feel less safe, despite being no less safe than when I didn't know, and I think it would do bad things to women's mental health in general. I think vigilante groups would take things too far, and much though I despise sex offenders I think it's their human right to go about their (non-offending!) life peacefully, and I don't think that would happen, I think they'd get called slurs, attacked, people wouldn't do business with them, they'd have their property constantly vandalised etc. Much though I think they justice system is majorly flawed when it comes to conviction and punishment of sex offenders, and much though I don't particularly care what happens to a sex offender this is superseded by the fact that human rights aren't negotiable, ever. They must be fore everyone, even people who have breached the human rights of others.

Nah.. They don't deserve to live peacefully.

butterfliedtwo · 26/03/2023 23:50

QueefQueen80s · 26/03/2023 23:30

Nah.. They don't deserve to live peacefully.

If they want to live peacefully, they should do so in their own little prison cell. Too many of these people get a slap on the wrist. And talk about their rights to go on with life. My concern is reserved for their victims.

AliceOlive · 27/03/2023 00:07

ThereIbledit · 26/03/2023 23:29

House prices for those next door to, and in the same neighbourhood would fall. Would you be happy if your property depreciated by a massive % overnight because your neighbour got convincted?

There is no evidence of this. I’m aware of two within a short distance of my house right now. One convicted and another awaiting trial.

Greenshake · 27/03/2023 00:10

ThereIbledit · 26/03/2023 23:29

House prices for those next door to, and in the same neighbourhood would fall. Would you be happy if your property depreciated by a massive % overnight because your neighbour got convincted?

That is absolutely ridiculous 😂😂