I can't believe the French have been retiring at 62 thus far.

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Seriously, the 64 years Macron wants to put the retirement age up to would be like a dream to me! Wonder how much their pension is?

Yes it does. I’m a boomer.

Well no it doesn;t. The younger boomers are in their late fifties - so a good number of them will still be alive in twenty years time.

The youngest boomers are 59 this year, the oldest 78. The vast majority of us will be off your hands in 20 years time when presumably you’ll be reviling Gen Y.

Yes it does. I’m a boomer.

No it doesn't...

I’m a boomer

this makes sense! 😆

The vast majority of us will be off your hands in 20 years time when presumably you’ll be reviling Gen Y.

You said it will all be fine though? Look at the state of the economy, social care & NHS now. You think they will be in better shape in 20 yrs time?

I don’t care, darling, I’ll be dead.

Definitely a boomer 😂

I don’t care, darling, I’ll be dead.

Dead & stupid, aiming high!

Hardly aiming anywhere - death’s an inevitability not a goal. Didn’t you know that?

Another excellent contribution....

You're not dead yet so why not get a life?

FWIW, economically the notion of this being state funded, tax-based and so on isn't really meaningful though the 'burden' on younger workers is more so.

I was born in 1961, so I'm a Boomer. I had no choice when or where I was born. I left school at 18 and have worked ever since.
I know that I'm party of the luckiest generation, but what am I supposed to do about it? Bitching about Boomers might make you feel better but 50 years of (mostly) Tory governments have done this..not me...and no, I've never voted for them.

This is the most stereotype confirming comment ever. You have no idea how perfect your comment is. Gen X is so invisible you forgot we even exist

Ha Ha!

Also no one is bitching about boomers, just recognising the reality. Such a large bulge is always going to cause distruption. In the sixties and seventies havign such a large young generation was amazing for pop music, protest culture etc.. Unfortunately now having such a large older and increasingy infirm generation means society has to pick up the tab, but unfortunately the intergenerational payment method is not up to the challenge.

You’re right - senility is obviously upon me. I can’t forget you exist, I gave birth to one of you!

Buckle up because in a couple of decades you’ll be reviled because a lot of you will inherit the hated boomers’ assets.

That’s what a richer country actually looks like, people: less work for better services and a better standard of living.

Britain is being turned back into the amazingly wonderful Victorian Age, as per the age old Tory wet dream.

I think th Uk is a complete outlier in this.

Triangle "I think the real question is, why do people in the UK put up with things being so awful here...".

I think the real question is why the British are surprised: many western European and Scandinavian countries happily pay higher taxes in order to secure a more comfortable, earlier retirement. Here, we resent the 'tax burden' instead of regarding it as a golden opportunity to collectively create the society we would like.
I for one would love to pay quite a bit more tax in order to ensure better health care, child care, education, and geriatric care.

Voilà, I give you zum French potholes. Last week.

i believe the Chinese all retire around age 62, too. They smoke themselves into early graves, though.

It used to involve an unrealistic expectation of Western European public services with USA taxation. Over time, the UK will achieve USA public services with Western European taxation.

The French pension system does not sound that great for women. 43 years contributions needed and part time work or time off for childcare does not count. As a result there is a huge disrepancy between what women and men receive.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/25/women-france-pension-protests?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

A lot of France's often cited great workplace protections tend to preference older male workers in certain sectors.