Has anyone got their Irish passport since Brexit?

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Both DH and I have Irish parents. FIL died a long time ago and his birth cert is barely holding together and barely legible. My mum is still relatively young and I could use hers but I've heard the process takes ages and it might get lost.
Has anyone applied using a birth certificate and how long did it take? The form does look complicated.
Secondly, our DD's also would like one- if I get mine as the child of an Irish citizen are they then considered first generation rather than second?

Yes, it does take a loooong time - unsurprisingly I guess, as everyone vaguely eligible now wants one.

DH applied for our DC, and they arrived long after we went there and arrived back - slightly bigger deal for us to travel there, as we’re on the other side of the world (applied around Feb last year, and I think they arrived in October or November). They had to queue with me, while DH sailed through.

I think your DC would be second generation. DH was born in the UK to Irish parents. Our DC are eligible, but it ends with them.

You can get a replacement certificate from the records office easily for a smallish charge.
You have to register your DC as a ‘foreign birth’ before they can apply for their passport. It is all explained on the website: www.dfa.ie/passportonline/

I can’t help with how long it takes.

Applying for an Irish passport is relatively quick, even for a first-time Irish passport. My son did it recently and it took a matter of weeks. There was a small delay but that was due to the Irish passport office not sending out passports on account of the postal strikes in England.
Prior to applying for his passport, however, my son had to apply for his foreign birth registration. That took two and a half years!!

I applied and relatively quick. Just steadily work through the application form. The hardest part was the witnesses. I was born in England to Irish parents. My boys are currently applying and I think they have to first register as born abroad

Ah thanks for your replies, I wasn't sure if I could get a replacement certificate as he was born over 100 years ago but you don't have to pay until they have received application. It would be much easier to use that BC rather than my mums.
Thanks for clarifying the second generation bit too- I presumed they would be as otherwise you could go on for generations. I'll get them registered as 'born abroad' or do I need my passport first?

As @FadedRed said, apply for copied of the certificates you need and then have at it. The sooner you start...

Once your application is in the process, you can track the status in line.

We got ours about 18 months ago (myself and DC- I was born in Ireland, hubby is from mainland Europe). It took about 2 weeks. Super straightforward.

Re the Irish foreign birth registration: I'd expect it to be quicker now than it was for my son because there was a massive post-Brexit backlog when my son applied in July 2020. I believe I the foreign birth registration office also stopped processing applications during the pandemic so the backlog grew even more. I know they're now working through it quite quickly but don't expect it to be a quick process. One of the most frustrating things about the foreign birth registration is that, unlike a passport application, there's no way of tracking your application.

I don't think you need to get your passport first but if this is your first passport application and you DC is applying for foreign birth registration then you'll need the same documentation for both. I'd advise you to get your passport first (mine took just over a fortnight in 2019 and that was over the Christmas period) and then register your DCs foreign birth because that's likely to take longer.

My experience is a bit different as I am Irish, living in Scotland. So I have always had an Irish passport. I have registered my children as Irish citizens born abroad, so that they have the same rights as me and I am passing the benefits down to my grandchildren.

It was quite straightforward and quick. Pre Brexit though!

Via grandparents takes 2 years and very expensive 800 euros ?...and some nonsense about going onto a foreign birth register first...not easy !

Can I ask a question about this please? My Dad was born in UK to Irish parents, but he died 40 years ago. Not sure if my Mum still has his BC.
I could use my Nan’s BC but my Uncle has it and has admitted he has no idea where it is…which option would be best - assuming I could get copies of either BC if originals can’t be found?

yes but since I was born in northern Ireland I could just chose either UK or Ireland , made the switch from a uk one just after Brexit and it has made no difference to anything. (14 international flights last year)

I was born in NI - applied last year - they just made the 6month deadline - otherwise, I'd have had to start the whole thing all over again. Easy it was not - bit it was worth it. But the kids will be next - we're waiting until their British passport expires first - they don't need two!

That's why you need to get your passport before you have kids.

I sent in all the paperwork to join the foreign birth register about a year ago. I got an email this week asking me to confirm my address was still the same and I got the impression they were beginning to review it. The original email I got said it takes them a while to make sure everything is in order so allow 2 years.

I got copies of everything, didn't send any originals.

My dc are already here so they won't qualify, it is only me, but I figure it might come in useful one day.

Via Grandparents is around 800 euros? blimey. I was only doing this so DD's could potentially work/live in Europe. I thought it would be around the 200 mark.
I think I might just get the copies first, then I have them ready if DD's want to do it.

My children got them at the end of last year, took about six weeks in total. We live in the UK and the hardest part was finding someone to countersign the forms as the list is a lot smaller than for UK passport applications. The school headteacher did it in the end.

No it’s not 800 euros via grandparents just look at the website it’ll tell you. But you need a lot of documentation. I got an Irish passport and needed my Dads birth certificate, his marriage certificate, and my birth certificate plus my marriage certificate to show name change….photos and identification verified by a solicitor (teacher, professional etc). So it’s a lot of work.
I had DC before and after having an Irish passport myself but the process for them all has been the same regardless of my status…. need all the above documentation plus their birth certificate, their Uk passport and someone to verify their identity for a foreign birth register certificate to then send off all that documentation again for their passport!!!

The applications all take a long time BUT they do send you back your own documents/uk passports quickly enough so you’re not without them and then carry on processing your application.
My brother sorted his as he works in Europe and much easier/cheaper than sorting out a visa so he has a right to work there. He just uses his Irish passport.

Oh and btw the Irish passport photo is different sizing to the uk passport photo so don’t send off a standard passport Photo Booth one! Snappy snaps or somewhere similar will know how to take the right size picture for Irish passport!

This. Boatloads of applications from post-Brexit worriers during reduced working capacity of Covid regs caused the system to collapse for a while and they're still working on getting it back to normal. I'm waiting a while yet before applying for ours. But I've got that luxury as both my children are Irish citizens in their own right and don't need me to "pass on" my citizenship in any formal way.

What’s nonsense about going on register of foreign births???

its on the irish passport website if you want to apply if you have a grandparent, you put on this register for 2 years and it costs extra...unless i read it all wrong but did read it carefully.

Yes you do, what’s nonsense about it? My own Irish brother had to do it to get Irish passports for his American born children.

Because its expensive !!