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I’ve been driving around without insurance since December.

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Userr46372644 · 27/02/2023 12:32

Please don’t come at me. I’ve been driving without insurance since December. I’ve just had a letter to say I’m not on some kind of car insurance database and if it wasn’t for that arriving I would have carried on being blissfully unaware.

Been with the same insurer until December for about 2-3 years and they’ve always sent out reminders about renewal by letter of post but had nothing - always checking emails and I open any post I get. Makes me wonder if a letter had been sent but lost.

I am mortified, mortified that if I had to make a claim I couldn’t - thankfully I have not had to. Mortified at I could have been done for driving with no insurance.

this is partly my fault. I should have realised that it had been 12 months but I’ve had a lot going on with my MH and the kids having complex needs etc.

obviously shopping around for insurance as we speak but Jesus, I feel an idiot. I just wanted to vent. I’ve been driving for 13 years and never been as stupid.

OP posts:
GenuinelyDone · 27/02/2023 19:12

Yore lucky that the DVLA haven't fined you for not being continuously insured (we got done for that on a car parked on our drive that we didn't use and hadn't declared SORN for some unfathomable reason).

You're sorted now and more alert for next year's renewal. It's so easy to let life details runaway when you're going through the mill.

My mistake was paying twice the amount of subs needed for my daughter's football. It took me a year to realise and hell of a lot of pleading to remedy because she'd left the club.

Hope things are smoothing out for you now 💐

GenuinelyDone · 27/02/2023 19:12

*you're stupid fat fingers

Rellywobble · 27/02/2023 19:14

LittleTiger007 · 27/02/2023 13:23

I know it’s not your fault but the biggest thing to be mortified about is if you got into an accident and accidentally killed someone. You would go to prison and likely have to pay the compensation over the course of the rest of your life (compensation the insurance would have paid). Get it sorted asap and set a reminder for when it lapses.

Helpful comment!

Userr46372644 · 27/02/2023 19:15

LoveMaths · 27/02/2023 19:10

This almost happened to me. I was with direct line and so was my partner. Mine and his renew within days of each other. He had his documents and reminders through, I didn’t. I rang them and they insisted they sent them but said they would send them again. I still didn’t receive them. 🤷‍♀️

Crikey. I just didn’t think as I’ve always been contacted with any insurer I’ve been with in good time before it’s due. I’m surprised they haven’t tried contacting me, even by phone as sure they must have my home and mobile number too. My partner is with a totally different insurer than me but am thinking that when his is up he might go with the same as I’ve insured with today.

I have no idea who would have been given potential points if I did get caught. He is the registered keeper of the car, but I’m main driver and him named on insurance! We both use it, but me more so as he has a works car! 🤷‍♀️

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Theoldwrinkley · 27/02/2023 19:23

Glad you realised before anything happened.
We found out (about 2002) that we had been a year without house/buildings insurance. I had cold swears over it. We had quite a serious fire in 2006. The feeling of panic over seeing the damage and then reassuring myself that we definitely had insurance was such a relief, although an unp,easantvexperience.

LunaM · 27/02/2023 19:24

Userr46372644 · 27/02/2023 19:11

@LunaM my relative was in a horrific accident by an insured driver but the driver was using their phone at the wheel. He spent weeks on life support in ICU on deaths door. Crashed right into my relative. Bad driving comes in all forms.

Being uninsured for a short time didn’t change my driving ability. If god forbid I was in an accident I would have taken full responsibility and whatever fine, points or prison term that would have given me but thankfully this was not the case and I feel fortunate I’ve gotten away with it lightly.

No ones saying being uninsured makes you a bad driver. Someone crashed into me one time uninsured driver. my car was written off. Had no money to buy a new one. Took some time for the insurance company to give me the value of my car which wasn’t enough to buy another.

Userr46372644 · 27/02/2023 19:51

Theoldwrinkley · 27/02/2023 19:23

Glad you realised before anything happened.
We found out (about 2002) that we had been a year without house/buildings insurance. I had cold swears over it. We had quite a serious fire in 2006. The feeling of panic over seeing the damage and then reassuring myself that we definitely had insurance was such a relief, although an unp,easantvexperience.

I am sorry to hear about the fire but yes house insurance is important too! My partner deals with that one but I may double check after todays events!

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LovedFedAndNoonesDead · 27/02/2023 20:01

I’m not surprised in the slightest that letters sent out in late November/early December were not received. Royal Mail were on strike so often that there were millions of letters and parcels piled up in delivery offices and regional mail centres that some going missing would not have been unexpected. As a pp says some have only reached their final destinations in the last couple of weeks.

One thing that is odd, and might be revealed by the December 21 renewal, is that when I’ve had car insurance on monthly payment is that it is on auto renewal - might be worth checking if it was supposed to be from your last set of documents.

DeadBod · 27/02/2023 20:10

The same thing happened to us and we were driving around without insurance for 4 months. We were alerted when we got a letter from the police with a warning so we must have been picked up via a anpr camera.
The policy was not on auto renew and we had no reminder letters or follow up correspondence from the company. We felt sick thinking that we had been driving around all that time with no cover.

TimeForMeToF1y · 27/02/2023 20:16

EarringsandLipstick · 27/02/2023 18:27

OP, as others have said, this makes no sense.

Firstly I don't know any insurance company that isn't sending emails as a minimum (most have an online portal) and who don't text, in addition to written communication where necessary.

Secondly, they cannot just cancel - it auto renews, and you have to actively cancel & ensure transfer of insurance. It's simply not possible to cease insurance by doing nothing.

I'm not sure what has happened, and I'm glad you are sorted now - but it's not happened as you described.

I know someone this happened to, just because your insurance auto renewa it doesn't mean that everyones doea you know

The person I know is extremely responsible it just some.how went under her radar

thelionthewitchtheaudacityofTHISbitch · 27/02/2023 20:28

KnittedCardi · 27/02/2023 12:46

I found out last week had no MOT since Sept! Only prompted because I received my car tax renewal and the computer said NO!

I blame COVID. So the two were aligned until everything closed down, so couldn't get MOT that March. Then it slipped to the summer when everything opened up. Then obvs forgot the next year, and got it done in the Sept. Then forgot again.

Oh well. At least it is aligned once again, so Tax, MOT and Insurance all Feb/March.

I wish they would change annual MOTs. Never failed one, and modern cars really don' t deteriorate like old ones used to.

This happened to me - everything aligned then it wasnt. So in my mind for the last few decades this date - but it no longer is. I am setting up spreadsheets for insurance - it has got that complicated!

Upsidedownagain · 27/02/2023 20:36

A while ago I discovered by chance that my driving licence was over a year out of date. I should have had a letter but am sure I didn't get one. It was only as I was using it for ID online and had to fill in the expiry date that I realised. Fine would have been £1000 plus points on my licence. DVLA did not ask me if I had been driving- just issued a new one after I applied.

Upsidedownagain · 27/02/2023 20:38

And no, car insurance doesn't auto renew unless you enable that. But we always get a letter ahead of the renewal date.

Upsidedownagain · 27/02/2023 20:41

Userr46372644 · 27/02/2023 19:15

Crikey. I just didn’t think as I’ve always been contacted with any insurer I’ve been with in good time before it’s due. I’m surprised they haven’t tried contacting me, even by phone as sure they must have my home and mobile number too. My partner is with a totally different insurer than me but am thinking that when his is up he might go with the same as I’ve insured with today.

I have no idea who would have been given potential points if I did get caught. He is the registered keeper of the car, but I’m main driver and him named on insurance! We both use it, but me more so as he has a works car! 🤷‍♀️

I presume it would be the same as getting caught speeding etc. If you are driving another person's (your partner's) car, they get sent the fine but can declare that someone else was driving.

BorgQueen · 27/02/2023 20:46

Every car insurance policy I or DH have ever had over the last 20+ years has always had the disclaimer that it auto renews unless you tell them not to.

JarByTheDoor · 27/02/2023 20:47

A couple of posters really sticking the boot in to OP on this thread. In modern life, a perfectly normal average human being, with a normal average human brain that evolved to do hunter gatherer things, is expected to remember dozens of important but infrequent tasks with no apparent intrinsic saliency at arbitrary points, and have often been in effect trained to rely on things happening a certain way (reminders, auto-renewal) so they don't get forgotten.

Multiple insurance policies, multiple maintenance things, multiple licences, multiple health-related things, multiple payments and fees and subscriptions and installments, and each one treated as though it's the only thing you might have to remember. It's too much for a lot of us.

Difficult life events, mental illnesses like a bout of depression, a house move, differences like dyslexia, ADHD, ASD, lower than average IQ, early stages of dementia, or poor education, or a lost diary or phone or problem with an online calendar service (e.g. getting locked out of your Google account)… there are so many things that can make these expectations unrealistic, or which can put a spanner into even a smoothly-running system

We went several months without realising we had no home insurance. No idea why it didn't auto-renew like usual — I think it might've been because the bank decided to switch from MasterCard to Visa several years before the card used on the insurance account was due to expire, so the insurance company didn't know to contact us about an expired card but the payment didn't go through. That bank card switch messed up a lot of things. And DP was in trouble for defrauding the NHS once, because his prescription prepayment certificate ran out without him realising, and he hadn't received the usual reminder. And yes I suppose he should've put his own reminder on a calendar, but being a fallible human being, he'd got used to being sent one.

I know that it would've been horrendous for anyone who OP had hit while uninsured, and for OP herself, but I'd think she knows this and doesn't need berating any further. The system shouldn't rely on nobody ever messing up. We're just human and the expectations are difficult for many of us.

YukoandHiro · 27/02/2023 20:48

Something similar but not illegal happened to me - suddenly realised I had no contents insurance because it had just stopped renewing and nobody wrote to me (or if they did I missed it, which is rare as I check emails daily). Thank goodness we didn't have a fire or anything.
Good luck getting it sorted asap

QuietlyConfident · 27/02/2023 20:50

LittleTiger007 · 27/02/2023 13:23

I know it’s not your fault but the biggest thing to be mortified about is if you got into an accident and accidentally killed someone. You would go to prison and likely have to pay the compensation over the course of the rest of your life (compensation the insurance would have paid). Get it sorted asap and set a reminder for when it lapses.

To be honest, if you were imprisoned for causing death through dangerous driving your insurance status would be very much a footnote.

The victim would receive a payout from the MIB so would be no worse off: still dead, still financially compensated.

LivingTheDreamNow · 27/02/2023 20:59

My car insurance didn’t renew last year because my credit card changed, not my choice, the credit card provider decided to change it. But there was no letter or email sent to alert me that the automatic renewal didn’t go through.
Weirdly I paid twice the year before, once by automatic renewal, then I was charged again for some reason. I got a letter in the post saying that I wasn’t insured, which was a surprise to me! No letter or email from the insurance company telling me that my credit card had failed.

defi · 27/02/2023 21:44

Op I was once stopped by the police for having no insurance....I had insured the wrong number plate. I'd spent 6months driving around technically uninsured. The police were thankfully very understanding

OrderOfTheKookaburra · 28/02/2023 00:06

Wow, in Australia if an insurance company doesn't send you renewal documents within a certain timeframe they have to provide free cover under statute for a period of time. Can't believe insurance companies in the UK have taken such a lax approach.

LibertyLily · 28/02/2023 00:12

Back in 2018 DH was provided with a courtesy car by the garage that was supposed to be fixing his. Turned out they didn't have a clue what they were doing and handed his car back in bits, but in the interim DH was stuck with this courtesy car for what turned out to be ten months.

It was only when he was finally on the cusp of giving up with his old car/the useless garage and buying a new car, that we discovered the bloody courtesy car had no MOT/insurance and hadn't had for the previous six months. Nice of the garage to let him know! Fortunately he never got stopped by the police.

LittleTiger007 · 28/02/2023 07:17

QuietlyConfident · 27/02/2023 20:50

To be honest, if you were imprisoned for causing death through dangerous driving your insurance status would be very much a footnote.

The victim would receive a payout from the MIB so would be no worse off: still dead, still financially compensated.

I know someone who accidentally killed a cyclist who shot out from a side path with a pillion sitting in their bicycle basket. The pair of them were drunk. The driver is always to blame even though the fault was totally the guys on the bike. The driver went to prison & had to pay compensation for their lives in the form of millions. At least the insurance covered that latter bit.

cosmiccosmos · 28/02/2023 07:59

Do you not have a phone or computer? This stuff is 99% done online these days. Who still gets letter! Confused

mdh2020 · 28/02/2023 08:06

We found that our insurers had cancelled the insurance on the car we kept rather than the car we had sold. Also mortified but they admitted it was their fault. Relieved we hadn’t had an accident though.