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What is this behaviour called

36 replies

whatbehaviour · 21/02/2023 22:35

When someone says they didn't do something because of how you would react (rather than owning their choice)

Can't think of a good example right now but basically implying their choices are driven by you (the person they are talking to) and aren't their own.

Is there a name for this? I thought it was gaslighting but now I'm not so sure.

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tillyoumakeit · 21/02/2023 22:37

Following with interest!

Steakandquinoa · 21/02/2023 22:38

Depends on circumstances.
Depression? “I didn’t put the shelf up because I knew you would just tell me I’d done a shit job”

UWhatNow · 21/02/2023 22:38

Deflection?

Nimbostratus100 · 21/02/2023 22:41

its just general manipulation - it doesnt have a particular name, I dont think

BankOfDave · 21/02/2023 22:41

Don’t know the phrase but I’d think this is deflecting accountability. It’s like ‘you made me react like that’ or ‘can’t do it because you’ll do X’. No responsibility for their actions and deflecting blame to others. The only thing you can control is yourself so doesn’t matter what anyone does/n’t do.

Willowkins · 21/02/2023 22:42

Not sure if this is quite right but could it be Learned Helplessness?

NotAnotherBathBomb · 21/02/2023 22:47

Manipulation

Hooklander · 21/02/2023 22:52

Making excuses

Polecat07 · 21/02/2023 22:54

It's not gaslighting, but it's a type of manipulation to avoid responsibility.

Annoyingwurringnoise · 21/02/2023 22:55

It’s manipulative. They’re trying to blame you for their own decisions.

Bemyclementine · 21/02/2023 22:57

It really depends on the situation. There are lots of things I didn't do in my marriage. Right down to changing a light bulb, or mowing the lawn, because my husband would have strongly objected. I went from being a fair string independent young woman, to , well, I don't really know. Anxious, scared, depressed, full of self-doubt? I certainly wasn't gas lighting HIM. But there water so many things I didnt do because I knew what his reaction would be. Or things I actively concealed, or even lied about. Its called self preservation within an abusive relationship

whatbehaviour · 21/02/2023 22:57

I've been telling DH for about a year to stop gaslighting me 😂 I will now use these proper phrases. Thanks mn!

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Bemyclementine · 21/02/2023 22:57

I'm actually shocked at the responses so far. So blinkered.

Alittlebitofbreadandsomecheese · 21/02/2023 22:57

Manipulation/making excuses/refusing to take responsibility and just being a tw@t generally

Emmamoo89 · 21/02/2023 22:58

Manipulation

JustFrustrated · 21/02/2023 23:32

Surely context is required.

As per a Pp I know I've literally said "I didn't do X because I knew you'd do Y" or "say y"

And it wasn't any of the reasons given here. It was because he was abusive and I was walking on eggshells trying to avoid it. Whatever action I took, would have resulted in some abusive behaviour.

Workinghardeveryday · 21/02/2023 23:42

Watching with interest.

AngryPrincess · 21/02/2023 23:47

Possibly ‘after the fact rationalisation’. When you do something because you want to, then try to legitimise it with an excuse afterwards. Obviously it would be not doing the thing here.

GeorgiaGirl52 · 22/02/2023 00:04

Victimization or victim blaming

Hawkins003 · 22/02/2023 00:06

Damage control, they didn't do x, because you would atomic their ass

FlosCampi · 22/02/2023 00:16

How about " My mother's just arriving. I didn't tell you my mother was coming for a week's visit because I knew you wouldn't like having to shop, cook special meals and clean the house for her visit. This way you don't have to worry!" Or "I hid those flirty texts from that colleague because I didn't want to upset you, I'm always treading carefully so you dont get upset".

SkyHippoOnACloud · 22/02/2023 00:33

Bemyclementine · 21/02/2023 22:57

I'm actually shocked at the responses so far. So blinkered.

It's not. You weren't saying to your husband you'll not do xyz because of how he'd react, he wasn't asking you to do those things and you weren't using "you're scary" as an excuse for not doing things. As you say, until you left it was necessary self preservation. Your type of situation isn't what the OP or the replies are talking about

Idkrealorfake · 22/02/2023 00:34

DARVOing?

Deny, attack, reverse victim and offender.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DARVO

SchoolTripDrama · 22/02/2023 01:27

Martyr

FredInYourHead · 22/02/2023 01:35

Being a twat manipulative

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