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Australia recruiting in the UK for nurses, etc

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idonotmind · 17/02/2023 19:22

Not sure it's been discussed on here yet:

metro.co.uk/2023/02/16/london-australia-to-tempt-nurses-and-teachers-to-move-down-under-18293594/

Anyone tempted? I would be if I was a UK nurse, teacher etc

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prescribingmum · 20/02/2023 14:45

Fifthtimelucky · 20/02/2023 11:33

I think the best solution for doctors, nurses and teachers would be to write off a proportion (or certain amount) of their student loans every year that they stay in the NHS or a state-funded school. Then after 5 or 10 years they would have repaid the whole loan. That would encourage doctors, nurses and teachers to stay, rather than forcing them to.

Or instead, they just pay a decent competitive wage?!

Most go into the profession because it is genuinely what they want to do. The majority also do not study to go into these professions with the sole intention of moving abroad. Unfortunately poor pay and working conditions in UK drives them out or abroad because it just isn't worth it.

A decent wage attracts the capable to the profession and will retain staff. In turn this will result in less burnout and ultimately better service provision

QuietlyConfident · 20/02/2023 18:59

Hayley37888 · 20/02/2023 14:09

How does that provide any incentive ? If they leave they don’t have to pay their student loan back anyways

The incentive applies to nurses who may be tempted to go straight to the UK private sector, and to any HCP who would be tempted to move abroad for a few years but not necessarily for the rest of their lives.

I don't see why so many people are baffled by this proposal - it may not be right, effective, or fair, but it's perfectly manageable. Loads of women have a "pay your extra maternity pay back if you don't return to work" deal for example. No the government can't force you to work for them, but they can certainly bill you for extra tuition fees retrospectively if you do "the wrong thing", or write off your student debt if you do what they want.

Alexandra2001 · 20/02/2023 19:08

Fifthtimelucky · 20/02/2023 11:33

I think the best solution for doctors, nurses and teachers would be to write off a proportion (or certain amount) of their student loans every year that they stay in the NHS or a state-funded school. Then after 5 or 10 years they would have repaid the whole loan. That would encourage doctors, nurses and teachers to stay, rather than forcing them to.

What would you do about say a nurse/AHP who had been paying off their loan for the last few years and working in the NHS ?

Unless you addressed HCPs who have been doing this, you just create a 2 tier system for most staff who trained without a bursary and taking out loans.

Interested in this thread?

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IsThePopeCatholic · 20/02/2023 19:21

I have been told, on good authority, that the Philippines deliberately train a surplus number of nurses to work abroad. Apparently, it benefits the country financially because of all the money sent back home.

Feefee00 · 20/02/2023 19:30

Posters saying you should have to commit to so many years service in the NHS. Many students only receive 5k as a grant and you have to work at least 2300 unpaid in placements where mostly you are treated as an extra pair of hands and not actively learning much for a lot of it , you are literally used as a HCA for the first 2 years. They have to take a loan for the tuition fees student nurses have already supported the NHS before qualifying..

XenoBitch · 20/02/2023 19:44

Alexandra2001 · 20/02/2023 19:08

What would you do about say a nurse/AHP who had been paying off their loan for the last few years and working in the NHS ?

Unless you addressed HCPs who have been doing this, you just create a 2 tier system for most staff who trained without a bursary and taking out loans.

Also, not everyone has a student loan.
I trained as an ODP, and did not have a student loan.

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