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help - vegan coming for dinner.

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HufflepuffRavenclaw · 16/02/2023 15:44

Having friends over for dinner next week. Woman of the couple is quite faddy in her eating. Over the time we have know them she has been gluten-free for about 6 months, abandoned that and then gave up alcohol completely for about a year, stopped doing that and then cut out sugar, was also a pescetarian for a while. Latest is that she is vegan.

I am not a vegan and have zero interest in vegan food/cooking. I am looking for ideas which are easily adapted to vegan diets - so for example I could do tomato/mozzarella/basil and crusty bread for a starter and use vegan "cheese" for her.

Think I may buy a dessert for her as any decent pud has to have cream and butter in it.

Any ideas?

OP posts:
Pearlygates · 17/02/2023 11:15

Inyournightgarden · 17/02/2023 10:55

Tbh I would just uninvite the attention seeker (sorry, vegan)

They'd be getting a ready-made meal from Sainsburys tbh

RampantIvy · 17/02/2023 11:16

Ooh yes, tapas is a good call. Make sure you make enough of the vegan options because the meat eaters will also want to eat them, especially the patatas bravas.

InForTheNight · 17/02/2023 11:19

LuckySantangelo35 · 17/02/2023 10:19

@HufflepuffRavenclaw

adapt it then! Easy enough especially if you’re a good a cook as you say

why are you being so rigid??

I’m guessing OP isn’t a good cook. A good cook wouldn’t need this much input about a dinner with friends. That’s ok though, not everyone is a good cook.

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about this subject:

winterpastasalad · 17/02/2023 11:21

OP I'd love to be invited to a dinner party in your house minus the vegan. I'd be devastated to go for a dinner at friends and get served roasted cauliflower and fruit salad.

BarrelOfOtters · 17/02/2023 11:24

HufflepuffRavenclaw · 17/02/2023 11:14

I am leaning towards tapas. Then I can do stuff I’d make anyway like patatas bravas or gazpacho and just buy some vegan meatballs or something for the one who won’t eat the regular ones.

Brilliant idea, especially as you think she'll just tuck in anyway. And it can look really special.

We had the most amazing fruit and cheese salad in spain, you could do some {awful) vegan cheese alongside the normal stuff - grilled feta, halloumi and camembert with strawberries and balsamic vinegar....

AdventFridgeOfShame · 17/02/2023 11:26

These giant beans will make tapas easy
www.waitrose.com/ecom/products/zanae-giant-beans/007848-3733-3734

Letstaketotheskies · 17/02/2023 11:27

AliceDownTheRabbitHole · 17/02/2023 10:27

There's loads of vegan desserts that don't include dairy. I make a vegan banoffee cheesecake with crushed digestives (accidentally vegan), some plant butter (flora plant butter is good), biscoff spread (also accidentally vegan), with bananas and elmlea double plant cream whipped on top. It's lush and you'd never know it was vegan. Or betty crocker cake mix with a can of coke or sprite instead of all the other ingredients works too - just be careful what you decorate it with. Starter could be a vegan baked camembert studded with garlic and rosemary with crusty bread and a little side salad (that's my Xmas starter) with dairy versions for non-vegans. Depends what you were planning to do for the main but lentils work very well in place of minced beef (tinned are fine so no need to soak)

Are you deliberately trying to piss off the OP. She wanted suggestions for non-vegan meals where the meat/egg/dairy component can be cooked separately and added or not by the individual dinners, or where a portion could be easily separated out before the meat was added to the main pot. Plus a bit of a moan because this friend is a fad dieter rather than a long term dedicated vegan. She specifically did not want vegan substitutes for dairy because she doesn’t like the taste/texture/idea.

BarbaraofSeville · 17/02/2023 11:30

illtakeit · 17/02/2023 11:13

People are funny on here talking about make a vegan meal for everyone 😂
TF???
Who told you the non-vegans wants to eat a vegan meal?
OP just use google, the possibilities are endless on there.

Vegan food is just normal food that everyone will eat. It's not special weirdy food that people only eat if they're vegan.

The OP is doing tapas, so she can serve patatas bravas, gazpacho, maybe a spinach and chick pea dish, bread and nice olive oil, then meatballs and the vegan version.

So just normal food that people would eat if they were going for tapas and only the meatballs are not vegan.

HufflepuffRavenclaw · 17/02/2023 11:30

To repeat - I am a good cook. People enjoy coming to my house to be fed. Weekday meals are cooked from scratch. I want people to leave my home with a full stomach and having enjoyed a good meal. I do not cook vegan meals for my own family and would never try something entirely new when we gave people over. Because you want to guarantee it’ll be good. And you cannot guarantee that with a dish that not only have you never cooked, you’ve never eaten either.

is they so weird? To want to guarantee that you are feeding people tasty food, not something that turns out to be weird or just a bit meh?

OP posts:
howaboutchocolate · 17/02/2023 11:32

HufflepuffRavenclaw · 17/02/2023 11:14

I am leaning towards tapas. Then I can do stuff I’d make anyway like patatas bravas or gazpacho and just buy some vegan meatballs or something for the one who won’t eat the regular ones.

olive bread with oil and balsamic
padron peppers
garlic mushrooms
stuffed peppers
vegetable empanadas
braised peppers or giant butter beans in cider
saffron roasted cauliflower with almonds

Are all nicer than bought vegan meatballs and something that non vegans would happily eat.

C8H10N4O2 · 17/02/2023 11:32

Letstaketotheskies · 17/02/2023 11:27

Are you deliberately trying to piss off the OP. She wanted suggestions for non-vegan meals where the meat/egg/dairy component can be cooked separately and added or not by the individual dinners, or where a portion could be easily separated out before the meat was added to the main pot. Plus a bit of a moan because this friend is a fad dieter rather than a long term dedicated vegan. She specifically did not want vegan substitutes for dairy because she doesn’t like the taste/texture/idea.

Oh I think the OP is getting rather more respect that they are showing for their "friend".

Plenty of posters are pointing out that "substitution" meals are not the best or easiest way of catering in this situation. If the the OP wants to make a point of supplying meat and fish and just bung a sub on the plate for the vegan then no need for a thread here.

Also find someone describing themselves as a good cook who can't conceive of puddings without dairy.

hekissedmybottom · 17/02/2023 11:34

HufflepuffRavenclaw · 17/02/2023 11:04

Plant based is probably a better way to describe it than vegan although she’d tell everyone she’s vegan. No issues with leather, wool etc.

And I'd tell her she's not vegan. You should too 😅

InForTheNight · 17/02/2023 11:35

To repeat - I am a good cook. People enjoy coming to my house to be fed.

😂😂😂

Rosio · 17/02/2023 11:37

Why all the hate for vegan cheese?
I'm not a vegan but I like the cheese Grin vitalite slices are my favourite. I buy it cos I like it instead of regular cheese sometimes Grin

notacooldad · 17/02/2023 11:38

Ooh yes, tapas is a good call. Make sure you make enough of the vegan options because the meat eaters will also want to eat them, especially the patatas bravas
Oh yes, this so true! Carnivores wanting the best of both worlds!!!
When my boss puts a buffet on at work for us she always reminds people that they can eat everything but I can't so be mindful. I always get to have first pick as well!

(Before anyone things I'm being entitled, we are a small team, we have known each other for over 15 years and we socialise outside work, there is no problem with me having first dibs. If there was I would certainly know about it because there is no holding back in my team!!)

HufflepuffRavenclaw · 17/02/2023 11:39

Don’t worry @InForTheNight - you’re not on the guest list.

OP posts:
hekissedmybottom · 17/02/2023 11:39

Rosio · 17/02/2023 11:37

Why all the hate for vegan cheese?
I'm not a vegan but I like the cheese Grin vitalite slices are my favourite. I buy it cos I like it instead of regular cheese sometimes Grin

it used to be vile but now it's fine. I'm not vegan anymore but still enjoy both. Honestly some of it it really nice. there's that many, to say they are all vile is just silly.

Selttan · 17/02/2023 11:40

Why don't you put together the menu you would like to go if everyone ate meat and then post it here and see what others can suggest to do similar for your vegan guest

MoreParis · 17/02/2023 11:45

hekissedmybottom · 17/02/2023 11:39

it used to be vile but now it's fine. I'm not vegan anymore but still enjoy both. Honestly some of it it really nice. there's that many, to say they are all vile is just silly.

Plant based Cathedral City is really good. My family who aren’t vegan now only eat this as it’s as good as other cheddar. It actually tastes like cheese and I was very happy to find it, having never been keen on any of the other vegan cheeses I’d tried.

BarbaraofSeville · 17/02/2023 11:45

notacooldad · 17/02/2023 11:38

Ooh yes, tapas is a good call. Make sure you make enough of the vegan options because the meat eaters will also want to eat them, especially the patatas bravas
Oh yes, this so true! Carnivores wanting the best of both worlds!!!
When my boss puts a buffet on at work for us she always reminds people that they can eat everything but I can't so be mindful. I always get to have first pick as well!

(Before anyone things I'm being entitled, we are a small team, we have known each other for over 15 years and we socialise outside work, there is no problem with me having first dibs. If there was I would certainly know about it because there is no holding back in my team!!)

People are omnivores not carnivores. We're not cats.

The caterer/host should assume that everyone would want to eat foods like patatas bravas and provide accordingly.

MoreParis · 17/02/2023 11:46

HufflepuffRavenclaw · 17/02/2023 11:39

Don’t worry @InForTheNight - you’re not on the guest list.

I think she’s probably more than ok with that. 😂

Bigpinktrain · 17/02/2023 11:48

if anyone is vegan and fancies a curry, you can come to mine. I’m also a good cook 😌😝

RockingMyFiftiesNot · 17/02/2023 11:48

Carnivores wanting the best of both worlds!!!

To be fair, we are omnivores rather than carnivores, so we just want to eat what we can eat - which is everything!!

That said, if I serve a buffet and I have vegetarian/vegan guests, I do include enough for all but suggest that they go first and take plenty.

I'd go with tapas too OP, where much of it the food is naturally vegan. I'd do a side of chicken wings and meatballs for the meat eaters. Richmond vegan sausages can be chopped up and served in the same tomato sauce as the meatballs for your vegan friend.

Orcubed · 17/02/2023 12:06

HufflepuffRavenclaw · 17/02/2023 09:58

And @RockingMyFiftiesNot you're right, I'm not prepared to learn it. Because this my only "vegan" friend and based on their past history of going gluten-free, sugar-free, alcohol-free, pescetarian, I know by summer they'll have ditched the veganism and it will be the next fashionable fad. Paleo, or raw food or whatever.

I am looking for easy options for cooking one meal which can be suitable for both vegans and non-vegans. Lots of helpful suggestions given. "Why doesn't everyone just eat chickpea curry and fruit salad" is not a helpful suggestion.

You’re getting a lot of flack but I can sympathise with this. I have friends/family who are vegan, vegetarian, dairy free etc and will happily cater for them. I also have a friend who changes her diet constantly and it annoys me slightly having to change my menu to accommodate whatever fad she’s currently into. I once spent an entire afternoon of my holiday trawling Spanish supermarkets for gluten free bread for her only for her to order (very much gluten) pizza then cake for pudding in the restaurant that evening! I love her dearly but do roll my eyes when she tells me she’s on a gluten/dairy free, eating ‘clean’, raw food, vegan, paleo, low carb whatever diet because from experience each new way of eating lasts only weeks.

My daughter eats mostly plant based and I do find it easier to do a plant based meal with meat on the side (veggie curry and sides with tandoori chicken or vegetable noodles with grilled chicken or steak on the side for example). I also sometimes do something like bourgignon where I’ll make the sauce as one then separate out some and add beetroot or aubergine to hers and add beef to the rest before slow cooking. It’s not authentic but turns out indiscernible after the long cook.

notacooldad · 17/02/2023 12:14

Carnivores wanting the best of both worlds!!!
I was being light heated! I dont care what other people choose to eat ( unless they take all the hummus and crackers, then I get mad!🤣)

People are omnivores not carnivores. We're not cats.
Oh you can rely on MN to be pulled on anything you write slightly wrong, even though the word carnivore is often used to describe meat eaters these days in informal conversation.

The caterer/host should assume that everyone would want to eat foods like patatas bravas and provide accordingly
They should, especially works training courses, but everytime we have an outside caterer they put a label with veggie option for 1 ( me) separately and it's a single portion of whatever is veggie. If I'm not quick enough it's gone. However that's a moan for another day!