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Jacinda Ardern is resigning!

199 replies

MrsMarkRonson · 19/01/2023 00:32

Didn't see that coming?! I know her popularity has dipped somewhat, but I didn't think she'd leave before the election? wondering if she was being pushed out?

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Bigweekend · 19/01/2023 19:54

I wi sh she'd been less honest (assuming it is honestly and she's not jumping before she's pushed) and said something about pursuing other interests or something. Young woman burnt out after 6 years in top job, is not a helpful headline.

Thesonglastslonger · 19/01/2023 20:13

Refreshing contrast to Trump / Johnson / Putin being so hard to get rid of

If only all leaders were like her 😭

CheekyHobson · 19/01/2023 22:15

Young woman burnt out after 6 years in top job, is not a helpful headline.

Haven’t seen that headline anywhere as presumably all political editors are too sensible to write it.

Many major political leaders (men included) step down without a clear declaration of what they are doing next. They say they want to spend time with family and think about their next steps, as did she.

Any normal person would be burned out after six years of leading a nation through a pandemic, the country’s first major terrorist attack, a recession and a series of natural disasters (eruption, floods) against a backdrop of giving birth and raising a young child.

She is honest that it’s been a huge ask and she needs a break for a while. To make out like this shows her up as weak or somehow not up to the job is ridiculous. Many political leaders don’t face anything like she has faced and only do it for 3 years anyway.

JocelynBurnell · 19/01/2023 22:16

LlynTegid · 19/01/2023 18:48

I'm sure if you could turn the clock back to 2019 and offered most British people the choice of Jacinda Ardern or Boris Johnson, or indeed or Jeremy Corbyn, I know what the response would be from the majority of people.

New Zealand has had 2,437 Covid deaths, less than 0.1% of cases led to death.
Uk has had 214,000 deaths, about 0.8% of all cases led to a death.

Uk population is about 15 times that of New Zealand, yet has had 87 times as many deaths.

Add to this the half a million UK workers who have dropped out of workforce, citing long-term illness.

The UK is the only G7 country with smaller economy than before the pandemic.

Bigweekend · 19/01/2023 22:17

CheekyHobson · 19/01/2023 22:15

Young woman burnt out after 6 years in top job, is not a helpful headline.

Haven’t seen that headline anywhere as presumably all political editors are too sensible to write it.

Many major political leaders (men included) step down without a clear declaration of what they are doing next. They say they want to spend time with family and think about their next steps, as did she.

Any normal person would be burned out after six years of leading a nation through a pandemic, the country’s first major terrorist attack, a recession and a series of natural disasters (eruption, floods) against a backdrop of giving birth and raising a young child.

She is honest that it’s been a huge ask and she needs a break for a while. To make out like this shows her up as weak or somehow not up to the job is ridiculous. Many political leaders don’t face anything like she has faced and only do it for 3 years anyway.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-64327224

lljkk · 19/01/2023 22:40

Gosh, people are talking like she died.

JA will go onwards & upwards.

If she wants to, she'll find all sorts of great ways to still contribute to the world and make it a better place.
This is an opportunity... the start of bigger & better things.

I'm not even a fan of the woman & I can see all that clearly.

TooBigForMyBoots · 19/01/2023 22:41

Bigweekend · 19/01/2023 19:54

I wi sh she'd been less honest (assuming it is honestly and she's not jumping before she's pushed) and said something about pursuing other interests or something. Young woman burnt out after 6 years in top job, is not a helpful headline.

Helpful to who?

Freedo2023 · 19/01/2023 23:40

She was a disaster economically and spiritually for new Zealand. Pursued China style zero covid strategy even when it was proven to be a disaster. She threw human rights under the bus, and jumped before she lost the elections. One of the worst when it came for discriminatory aparthied style policies against the unvaccinated, which proved to be pointless. Hopefully she will be brought to account for the disastrous last few years. Great piece in the Daily Sceptic about her today.

Freedo2023 · 19/01/2023 23:44

A good read..
www.conservativewoman.co.uk/whats-behind-jacinda-arderns-resignation/

Let's hope she isn't replaced by another World Economic Forum puppet.

CheekyHobson · 19/01/2023 23:51

@Bigweekend

That BBC headline isn’t the same as what you wrote. She said she was burned out and she is. That’s factual, and what their headline says. Adding her age and the length of time she was in the job to your imaginary headline has a judgmental tone, suggesting you think her age and length of tenure don’t merit burnout.

I’d also be interested to know who you think is not being helped by Jacinda Ardern being honest about her reason for stepping down.

ComfortablyDazed · 19/01/2023 23:52

A ‘good read’ if you’re a right-wing tin foil hat-wearer.

FYI - no thinking person in NZ gives Cameron Slater any credibility.

LINABE · 20/01/2023 00:04

Freedo2023 · 19/01/2023 23:40

She was a disaster economically and spiritually for new Zealand. Pursued China style zero covid strategy even when it was proven to be a disaster. She threw human rights under the bus, and jumped before she lost the elections. One of the worst when it came for discriminatory aparthied style policies against the unvaccinated, which proved to be pointless. Hopefully she will be brought to account for the disastrous last few years. Great piece in the Daily Sceptic about her today.

👏👏👏

CheekyHobson · 20/01/2023 00:09

A ‘good read’ if you’re a right-wing tin foil hat-wearer.

In the second paragraph alone it says Kiwibuild was meant to deliver 100,000 homes in 3 years … not true, the promise was 100,000 in a decade (by 2028). There was a slow start and the pandemic had a major further effect, but the article’s claim of 1500 delivered is out of date by more 18 months. There has been a massive increase in completions since that time. I live near one of the major development areas and hundreds of houses have been completed in the last 6-12 months, streets and streets of them, with many more under construction. 18 months ago they were still at the site clearance and prep stage.

Didn’t bother to read further as the writer obviously isn’t interested in facts.

CheekyHobson · 20/01/2023 00:10

more than 18 months

CallItLoneliness · 20/01/2023 01:54

To those saying she was a disaster economically for NZ--where is your evidence? Show me a country that "let it rip" that is doing better?

magicthree · 20/01/2023 07:13

Bigweekend · 19/01/2023 19:54

I wi sh she'd been less honest (assuming it is honestly and she's not jumping before she's pushed) and said something about pursuing other interests or something. Young woman burnt out after 6 years in top job, is not a helpful headline.

What a strange comment. Do you realise just what she has had to deal with while she has been PM? It's hardly comparable to being CEO of a large business. PMs generally don't stay around for many years anyway, male or female.

Freedo2023 · 21/01/2023 12:44

Sweden for starters.

magicthree · 21/01/2023 18:58

Freedo2023 · 21/01/2023 12:44

Sweden for starters.

That's hardly "evidence"

Freedo2023 · 21/01/2023 21:22

Got friends in Christchurch and they say they're parties being held to celebrate her going. Very unpopular. Our media gave her far too an easy ride.. The cost of her poor decisions are going to cost the country dear for years.

CallItLoneliness · 22/01/2023 01:58

@Freedo2023 again, I would ask for the evidence--what decisions has she made that are going to "cost the country dear for years?"

CallItLoneliness · 22/01/2023 02:13

As for Sweden being a raging success, they were euthanising elderly patients without consent even where they had the means to treat them. I can't see any circumstances under which that should be considered a success. Sweden also had much higher excess mortality than structurally and culturally similar countries (e.g. Finland, Denmark, Norway), for little or no economic benefit.

magicthree · 22/01/2023 08:16

Freedo2023 · 21/01/2023 21:22

Got friends in Christchurch and they say they're parties being held to celebrate her going. Very unpopular. Our media gave her far too an easy ride.. The cost of her poor decisions are going to cost the country dear for years.

I live near Christchurch and I haven't heard of any parties being held to celebrate her going - maybe your friends just know idiots. As for the cost to the country of her "poor decisions" have you bothered to actually look at the cost to other countries? I think you will find that NZ is in better shape than many other parts of the world. Incidentally, my DF is in hospital atm and the difference between what I read on MN about the state of hospitals in the UK and what I see here is like night and day.

ComfortablyDazed · 23/01/2023 01:11

This short clip provides a glimpse into the sort of abuse Jacinda had to weather

Completely dehumanising.

LostInTheColonies · 23/01/2023 03:50

I'm near Christchurch and know not one single person partying - quite the opposite. People I know are sad, but understanding.
Interesting read (for those who aren't tin hat wearers)
Murdoch’s wailing old white man scribes get Jacinda Ardern dead wrong, again
and
Do you want the heartwarming version of Jacinda Ardern's story, or the chilling one?

Would be interesting to know if Sanna Marin is faced with a similar level of misogyny.

ComfortablyDazed · 23/01/2023 04:04

ComfortablyDazed · 23/01/2023 01:11

This short clip provides a glimpse into the sort of abuse Jacinda had to weather

Completely dehumanising.

The people having parties, as referred to by @Freedo2023, will absolutely be the sort of people in this link.

I really urge people to take a look as it’s so insidious.

I don’t understand what drives this level of irrational hatred - it can only be online spaces where people get to share memes (who has the time/inclination to create these??), wind each other up and spur themselves on, until they lose all sense of perspective and reality, not to mention decency.

It’s fucked up, and you’ve got to feel sorry for the people involved, who clearly have so little going on in life.

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