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Ukraine Invasion: Part 37

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MagicFox · 14/01/2023 15:52

Welcome all to thread 37. Thanks to everybody contributing to the backbone of these threads (extra hat tip to Ducks and Desdemona for posting daily updates) and to all lurkers too.

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ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 17/02/2023 08:32

~the UK Int Update gives figures of 40-60k killed, far lower than the Ukrainian estimates. 174,000-200,000 wounded/MIA/KIA in all~

www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/ukraine-conflict-updates

Key Takeaways

Russian forces conducted another series of missile strikes on infrastructure facilities throughout Ukraine on February 16.

Russian President Vladimir Putin met with Russian Federation Commissioner for Children’s Rights Maria Lvova-Belova on February 16, confirming that the Kremlin is directly involved in facilitating the deportation and adoption of Ukrainian children into Russian families.

Ukrainian officials stated that Russian forces aim to capture Bakhmut by the first anniversary of the invasion of Ukraine, which would require a significantly higher rate of Russian advance than has been recently observed.

Russian forces are reportedly increasing their use of airpower in Ukraine but are unlikely to attempt dramatically increased air operations over Ukrainian-controlled territory.

Russia and Ukraine exchanged 202 prisoners-of-war (POWs) in a one-for-one exchange.

Wagner Group financier Yevgeniy Prigozhin continues to subtly attack the Russian Ministry of Defense’s (MoD) credibility.

Russian forces continued offensive operations northwest of Svatove and near Kreminna.

Russian forces continued offensive operations around Bakhmut, along the western outskirts of Donetsk City, and in western Donetsk Oblast.

Russian sources claimed that Ukrainian forces continued reconnaissance activities along the Dnipro River in Kherson Oblast.

The Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) is reportedly continuing its prison recruitment efforts.

Russian occupation officials continued efforts to integrate occupied areas into the Russian legal system.

Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko reiterated his longstanding boilerplate rhetoric that Belarusian forces will attack Ukraine if Ukraine or the West attacks Belarus.

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ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 17/02/2023 08:39

Kyiv Independent Telegram

⚡️Putin, Lukashenko to discuss (kyivindependent.com/news-feed/putin-lukashenko-to-discuss-military-cooperation-on-feb-17) military cooperation on Feb. 17

⚡️Israel to support (kyivindependent.com/news-feed/israel-will-support-zelenskys-peace-formula-at-the-un) Zelensky's peace formula at the UN.

⚡️Bloomberg: (kyivindependent.com/news-feed/bloomberg-us-concerned-over-china-iran-helping-russia-import-foreign-chips)
G7 member states are discussing whether to sanction companies in China, Iran, and North Korea that are providing Russia with parts and technology that have military purposes, Bloomberg reported, citing its sources.
Russia continues to access foreign chips and technology through intermediaries like Iran or North Korea, US Assistant Secretary of Commerce for Export Administration Thea Kendler said.

⚡️Ukrenergo CEO: Worst of Russian (kyivindependent.com/news-feed/ukrenergo-ceo-worst-of-russian-attacks-on-the-energy-grid-is-likely-over) attacks on energy grid likely over.

⚡️Ukraine returns (kyivindependent.com/news-feed/ukraine-returns-101-more-po-ws-from-russian-captivity) 101 more POWs from Russian captivity.
The majority of military personnel are from Mariupol, including 63 Azovstal defenders.

⚡️European Parliament urges (kyivindependent.com/news-feed/european-parliament-urges-eu-countries-to-consider-giving-fighter-jets-to-ukraine) EU countries to consider giving fighter jets to Ukraine
The European Parliament on Feb. 16 urged EU member states to consider supplying Ukraine with fighter jets, helicopters, missile systems and more ammunition.

⚡️Media: Transfer (kyivindependent.com/news-feed/crucial-weapons-stalled-at-ukraine-slovakia-border) of damaged weapons across Slovakia border stalled over legal issues.
Slovakia has not allowed 15 German-made howitzers in need of repairs to pass across its border with Ukraine for several weeks, the German edition of Business Insider reported.

⚡️General Milley: Russia-Ukraine war will end with negotiations (kyivindependent.com/news-feed/general-milley-the-war-will-end-with-negotiations).
"It will be almost impossible for the Russians to achieve their political objectives by military means. It is unlikely that Russia is going to overrun Ukraine. It's just not going to happen," said Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Milley, also adding that it will be "very, very difficult" for Ukraine to expel all Russian forces from occupied territory.

⚡️Ukraine nationalizes (kyivindependent.com/news-archive) assets of sanctioned Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska.

⚡️Politico: EU Commission backs (kyivindependent.com/news-feed/politico-eu-commission-backs-out-of-russian-nuclear-sanctions) out of Russian nuclear sanctions.
Three diplomats told Politico on Feb. 16 that the EU Commission will not include sanctions against the Russian nuclear sector or its representatives in its latest sanctions package. Many EU countries rely on Rosatom for the construction and maintenance of their nuclear power infrastructure.

⚡️ (kyivindependent.com/news-feed/france-sends-14-wheeled-tank-destroyers-to-ukraine)
Fourteen AMX-10RC wheeled tank destroyers are en route to Ukraine from France,

⚡️UK opposition (kyivindependent.com/news-feed/uk-labor-party-leader-keir-starmer-visits-ukraine) leader Keir Starmer visits Ukraine.

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 17/02/2023 08:46

Live: Ukraine Telegram

The remains of a combat missile have been found in Moldova again. This time it was found near the border town of Briceni. The Ministry of Internal Affairs of the country directly stated that these are the consequences of Russia's missile attack on Ukraine.

Russian hackers attacked Ukraine 250% more often in 2022
On the eve of the Munich Security Conference, Google's Threat Intelligence Group reported that Russian-backed attackers increased their attempts to hack Ukrainian users by 250% last year compared to previous years.
One of the main targets of the hackers last year was the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine together with the National Agency for Civil Service. According to the data, Russian hackers also focused on NATO member states, including Poland, Germany, and the Baltic states. The company predicts that in 2023, Moscow expects to intensify attacks not only on Ukraine but also on NATO partners

Actor Jack Gleeson, who played King Joffrey Baratheon in Game of Thrones, came to Kyiv

More equipment losses again.

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ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 17/02/2023 08:57

UNITED24 Media Telegram

The Polish Legion, which will include special forces veterans, will start operating in Ukraine, – Vyšehrad 24
"Poland became the last country to form its own legion of volunteers fighting for Ukraine. The unit will be used to carry out reconnaissance and sabotage tasks," the message reads.

In the east of Ukraine, the situation is worsening. It is extremely difficult for the Armed Forces because the Russians have a significantly prepared mobilization reserve, – Andrii Yusov, representative of the Main Intelligence Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine

🇳🇴 Parliament of Norway approved a five-year support program for Ukraine by a majority of votes
The head of the President's Office, Andriy Yermak, said that the package is worth NOK 75 billion ($7.2 billion).

The State Duma of the Russian Federation adopted a law on the termination of the validity of about 20 international treaties of the Council of Europe on the territory of the country
The State Duma of the Russian Federation adopted a law on the termination of the validity of about 20 international treaties of the Council of Europe on the territory of the country
"In connection with the termination of Russia's membership in the Council of Europe from March 16, 2022, the following international treaties shall be considered as having lost their validity for the Russian Federation: Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms from November 4, 1950", Russian mass media quote the draft law.
The European Convention against Terrorism, the Statute of the Council of Europe of 5 May 1949, the General Agreement on the Privileges and Immunities of the Council of Europe of 2 September 1949, the European Social Charter of 1996, and since about ten other protocols have also ceased to be in force.

Russia is changing tactics in the war against Ukraine - the invaders will use aviation en masse, – Russian mass media "Vazhnie istorii" with reference to a source in the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation

Representatives of the United Kingdom, Denmark, Lithuania, Norway, Sweden, and the Netherlands met in The Hague to discuss support for Ukraine, – Ministry of Defense of the United Kingdom

Ivan Samoydyuk, deputy mayor of Enerhodar, was released during the prisoner exchange. The Russians kidnapped him on March 19, he spent 333 days in captivity.

🇨🇭Switzerland rules out the confiscation of Russian assets due to war in Ukraine, – Financial Times
Switzerland has said it cannot legally confiscate the assets of sanctioned Russians in the country, a blow to Europe's efforts to use those riches for Ukraine's post-war reconstruction.

The Czech Republic and the Netherlands will produce mobile air defense systems for Ukraine, — Novinky with reference to Aleš Vytečka, director of the Agency for Intergovernmental Defense Cooperation
The Netherlands will pay for the equipment of 100 modified Toyota SUVs equipped with rapid-fire machine guns with night sights that can shoot down drones.

❗️"Auchan" supplied goods for the Russian army to the occupied Ukrainian territories for free, — the relevant documents were obtained by the investigators of Bellingat, The Insider and Le Monde
Supply to the Russians was positioned as humanitarian aid.

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 17/02/2023 09:01

Washington Post Telegram

Lukashenko blames Ukraine for war, warns Belarus will join fight if attacked

  • Germany’s armed forces are in a worse place than they were last year, Defense Minister Boris Pistorius said in an interview with The Post, despite boasting a huge boost in defense spending after Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.
  • Israel’s foreign minister arrived in Kyiv in the first visit by an Israeli minister since the war began. Eli Cohen tweeted that he would meet with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and reopen the Israeli Embassy on his trip. Israel has provided humanitarian support to Ukraine but it has not provided Kyiv with intelligence or weapons.
  • Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko has said his country will join Russia’s war only if Ukraine attacks Belarus. “I am ready to fight together with the Russians from the territory of Belarus only in one case so far: if a single soldier comes from there to the territory of Belarus to kill my people,” he said Thursday.
  • Vice President Harris has arrived in Germany for the Munich Security Conference, where she will convey the United States’ continuing commitment to Kyiv.
  • Russian shelling in Bakhmut killed five civilians and injured nine on Thursday, the office of Ukraine’s prosecutor general said.
  • The U.S. and its partners in the Group of Seven are planning to hit Russia with major new sanctions coinciding with the war’s first anniversary on Feb. 24, a senior U.S. official said Thursday.
DesdamonasHandkerchief · 17/02/2023 09:17

Lovely, probably over optimistic, article in The Telegraph from Ambrose Evans- Pritchard today.
I've been hearing Russia is going broke and running out of weapons for months. Let's hope it's finally coming true!

Russia no longer has the economic means to wage offensive warfare

Putin’s war machine is massively out-powered by the West

The vast Uralvagonzavod tank factory in Western Siberia is running out of workers. Plans to add a second production line for T-90 battle tanks have stalled.
“It’s now impossible: there is an acute shortage of personnel at the plant. A master used to need special training, but now they take anyone with any experience in production,” said one employee, speaking to the regional Sverdlovsk newspaper.
The sprawling complex served as Stalin’s rear fortress in the Second World War. It built the Soviet Union’s T-34 tanks, safely beyond the reach of the Nazis.
Now under the state-conglomerate Rostec – run by ex-KGB general Sergey Chemezov – it may struggle to save the Russian army a second time.
Rostec is scouring the country, offering bumper wages and housing vouchers, especially for design engineers. But the pool of skills and manpower has dried up.
Some 700,000 Russians have left the countryy_ since the war began a year ago, mostly young men and mostly the best-educated. The military meat grinder is chewing up 800 soldiers a day, according to British intelligence. The more that Vladimir Putin mobilises those who remain, the less he has for his war industries.
The International Institute for Strategic Studies thinks Russia has already lost 2,000-2,300 tanks in Ukraine, wasting half of its pre-war stock of T-72s and T-80s. “They're producing and reactivating nowhere near enough to compensate for those loss rates,” it said.
Clearly, Uralvagonzavod cannot change this equation. Russia is for now drawing down its final reserve of Soviet relics, but these lack parts and are sitting ducks for Ukrainian drones.
The US Treasury said in October that the Western blockade of semiconductorss_ had led to a 70pc drop in chip imports from all global sources, curtailing production of hypersonic missiles, surface-to-air missiles, and airborne early-warning systems.
It said Russia is cannibalising dishwashers and fridges to find chips for the military, but this is desperate bootstrap stuff. These circuit boards are not instantly interchangeable.
RUSSIA'S SEMICONDUCTOR IMPORTS ARE RECOVERING Monthly imports by value


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Russia has two major semiconductors producers, Mikron and Baikal. They are in the 90nm (nanometer) range, workhorse technology from 20 years ago, unfit for modern precision weapons. Intel, Samsung, and Taiwan’s TSMC are already working on 2nm chips.

The Kremlin has unveiled a $40bn (£33bn) national project to produce 90 nm chips en mass by 2030, but that only goes to show how hopeless the task is.
“Despite this Russian effort to build a home-grown semiconductor industry, despite the propaganda, they haven’t succeeded, and I don’t think they’ll ever succeed. It leaves them critically dependent on foreign technology,” said James Byrne, head of open-source intelligence at the Royal United Services Institute (RUSI).
Russian customs data purports to show that chip imports have surged despite the blockade, which is of course what the Kremlin wants us to believe. To the extent that volumes have risen, the imports are mostly routine low-tech chips from China. These reportedly have a “defect rate” twenty times higher.
James Lewis, technology chief at Washington's Center for Strategic and International Studies, says it would take two to three years to reconfigure platforms to accept many of these Chinese imports. “They don’t make all the types of chips the Russians need. While they could gear up to do this, they’ve seemed reluctant,” he said.
RUSI’s James Byrne says the weapons captured or shot down in Ukraine overwhelmingly contain US chips, mostly from Texas Instruments and Analogue Devices. This was to be expected in the early phase of the war: these were legacy weapons built earlier.
The surprise is that Russia has continued to rely on US chips a full year later to keep the war industry going, obtaining them illicitly without the knowledge of the manufacturers.
“Can Chinese manufacturers replace all those components? I am sceptical. We’ve hardly seen any of these Chinese chips in Russian weapons platforms. They haven’t actually done it,” he said.
When it comes to weapons, the Kremlin still depends on an opaque supply-chainn_ of western chips through Hong Kong, Turkey, or the Middle East. Many get through, but many do not, and the Biden administration is tightening the global noose.
Smuggling on this scale is a very expensive headache. Putin could afford to pay whatever it took in 2022. Russia had a current account surplus of 20pc of GDP in the early months of the war, before the G7’s oil and gas sanctions began to bite. It had a fossil-funded budget surplus that permitted guns and butter at the same time.
Hence the apparent resilience of the Russian economy. It did not shrink by 10pc to 12pc as expected. The central bank says GDP contracted by just 2.5pc last year.
But the picture deteriorated rapidly in the fourth quarter, and shock figures in January have since raised alarm bells at the Kremlin. State energy revenues collapsed by 46pc and the budget swung to a $25bn deficit in one month.
RUSSIA'S OIL REVENUES ARE PLUMMETING Government oil income


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SOURCE: RUSSIAN MINISTRY OF FINANCE, IEA

Russia has no internal bond market to fund deficits on this scale. The Kremlin is having to raid the national wealth fund. That dropped by $38bn to $148bn in January. Lumpy outlays on weapons may have distorted the figures but a “burn-rate” of this magnitude means that Russia will soon have to face draconian austerity if it wants to keep fighting.
Putin can still sell his oil under the G7 oil price cap, activated in December.._ But the West controls 90ps of the trade through insurance, financing, and ship ownership. His “shadow fleet” has mostly failed to materialise. The ships are too big to dock in Russian ports.

China, India, or Turkey are all driving hard bargains, knowing that Russia is a distressed seller. Urals crude has been trading at a $40 discount to Brent.
Some Russian oil ends up in Europe again after a round trip to the Far East – with shocking CO2 emissions – but that does not mean the sanctions are futile. The point is to deprive the Kremlin of money.
Russia has lost its primary gas market in Europe forever. The price for liquefied natural gas that it can still sell has dropped 70pc since last August. Russia has now lost half its global oil export revenues as well, and that is much more painful.
Putin still has the means to torment the West. He could slash oil outputt_ by three million barrels a day, timed to coincide with recovering Chinese demand, and force the price to $200 in hopes of provoking Europe’s frazzled democracies to turn against their leaders over Ukraine.
He might think he can recoup on price what he loses on volume. But such an oil shock would hurt China, India, and the global South even more than the West, and it would probably fail to shift democratic opinion.

The lesson of economic warfare, from the Continental Blockade through to the strangulation of Germany in two world wars, is that it takes a long time, but often ends with startling speed.
Why did the German Spring Offensive in 1918 crumble and set in motion the cascading collapse of the Wilhelmine system? Why did the nation snap after four years of stoic forbearance?
Because the country no longer had the economic means to wage offensive warfare. It had run out of workers for iron and steel plants. It had run out farm hands. It had run out of fuel, rubber, fertilisers, and food. It had run out of money.
Russia is not going to run out of fuel or food, but it lacks much else needed to sustain its war machine, and it is massively out-powered by the West.
How does one go bust, to borrow the immortal line from Hemingway? “Two ways: gradually, then suddenly.”

DesdamonasHandkerchief · 17/02/2023 09:21

The two graphs that didn't format correctly from the above article.

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blueshoes · 17/02/2023 09:47

Ducks, thanks for your tireless key takeaways.

❗️"Auchan" supplied goods for the Russian army to the occupied Ukrainian territories for free, — the relevant documents were obtained by the investigators of Bellingat, The Insider and Le Monde
Supply to the Russians was positioned as humanitarian aid.

Auchan wtf? I am never shopping at Auchan (aka traitor) again on my French holidays. Bet they are quaking😡

⚡️Ukrenergo CEO: Worst of Russian (kyivindependent.com/news-feed/ukrenergo-ceo-worst-of-russian-attacks-on-the-energy-grid-is-likely-over) attacks on energy grid likely over.

How would Ukrenergo's CEO know? Great news if true.

⚡️Ukraine returns (kyivindependent.com/news-feed/ukraine-returns-101-more-po-ws-from-russian-captivity) 101 more POWs from Russian captivity.
The majority of military personnel are from Mariupol, including 63 Azovstal defenders.

Jubilation at the return of so many Azovstal defenders. In the excellent interview
with Bohdan Krotevych, Tavr - Chief of Staff, First Deputy Commander of the Azov Regiment which Ducks linked to below, he was disappointed at Azov defenders not being prioritised in prisoner exchanges. He said the pilots who flew suicide missions to deliver supplies to Azovstal defenders (and survived but got captured) should be prioritised over Ukraine soldiers who surrendered at the first opportunity. I am glad he got his wish.

Igotjelly · 17/02/2023 09:54

Reported by Sky -

Chinese president 'to deliver peace speech on anniversary of war'
Xi Jinping is reportedly set to deliver a "peace speech" on the anniversary of the start of the Ukraine war.

That's according to Italy's foreign minister Antonio Tajani, who said he was told this by top Chinese diplomat Wang Yi.

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 17/02/2023 11:34

That's a really encouraging artcle, @DesdamonasHandkerchief ! even assuming some of it is overpositive, it'll be nice to think that some of it's accurate

DesdamonasHandkerchief · 17/02/2023 12:27

Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko has said his country will join Russia’s war only if Ukraine attacks Belarus. “I am ready to fight together with the Russians from the territory of Belarus only in one case so far: if a single soldier comes from there to the territory of Belarus to kill my people,” he said Thursday.

Sounds suspiciously like laying the ground work for a false flag operation, or stupidly encouraging the Kremlin to stage one to force Belarus into the war.

DesdamonasHandkerchief · 17/02/2023 12:39

How would Ukrenergo's CEO know? Great news if true.

I wondered that too blueshoes. Can't help but feel the Kremlin have a carpet bombing style spree planned for the first anniversary of this shit show.

MMBaranova · 17/02/2023 13:32

I'm sure there will be something, but there might not be the ammunition to waste.

MissConductUS · 17/02/2023 14:55

DesdamonasHandkerchief · 17/02/2023 12:39

How would Ukrenergo's CEO know? Great news if true.

I wondered that too blueshoes. Can't help but feel the Kremlin have a carpet bombing style spree planned for the first anniversary of this shit show.

The trend has been longer and longer intervals between the missile and drone attacks, which is an indicator of the declining availability of those weapons.

Carpet bombing can only be done by large numbers of heavy bombers. Russia has such aircraft, but they've never used the over Ukraine for fear that they'd be shot down. Artillery is their tool for area destruction, but it's limited in range.

Igotjelly · 17/02/2023 15:06

You may already have seen it but if not would really recommend the "Taking on Putin" Podcast, by John Sweeney (previously of the BBC).

Its really inciteful as to the history of Putin's crimes, including his obsession with silencing his critics (particularly using poison) and his war crimes before Ukraine (I hadn't realised just how like Mariupol Grozny in Chechnya was.)

Surplus2requirements · 17/02/2023 15:54

MissConductUS · 17/02/2023 14:55

The trend has been longer and longer intervals between the missile and drone attacks, which is an indicator of the declining availability of those weapons.

Carpet bombing can only be done by large numbers of heavy bombers. Russia has such aircraft, but they've never used the over Ukraine for fear that they'd be shot down. Artillery is their tool for area destruction, but it's limited in range.

I've been pondering why Russia has been massing aircraft on the border.

No expert but I can imagine that even if there was a fairly limited break in the Ukrainian lines and any sort of disorderly retreat a hole would appear in portable air defense allowing Russian aircraft to leap in and cause havoc.

MissConductUS · 17/02/2023 16:39

I've been pondering why Russia has been massing aircraft on the border.

No expert but I can imagine that even if there was a fairly limited break in the Ukrainian lines and any sort of disorderly retreat a hole would appear in portable air defense allowing Russian aircraft to leap in and cause havoc.

That could be. It could also be that proximity to the border allows for shorter sorties and less fuel consumption. Perhaps our resident subject matter expert on all things aviation related has some insight.

There's been a lot in the media recently about the gap between ammunition production and consumption rates in Ukraine. I thought this was a good overview of the US strategy to ramp up production, and there's a fab video that shows how 155mm artillery shells are produced.

Ukraine is burning through ammunition faster than the US and NATO can produce it. Inside the Pentagon’s plan to close the gap

I posted about the same plant in Scranton, PA a week or two ago when the Secretary of the Army visited there to announce $243 million in fund to expand and modernize the facility. It's owned by the US DoD but operated by Generatl Dynamics. The article covers plans to increase the production of other munitions like Himars missiles as well.

MissConductUS · 17/02/2023 16:54

Here's a transcript of Llyod Austin and Hanno Pevkur's press briefing in Estonia yesterday.

Secretary of Defense Lloyd J. Austin III and Estonian Defense Minister Hanno Pevkur Press Briefing in Tallinn, Estonia

It's fairly long, so I'll post a few key remarks by Austin. We are so lucky to have this man as SECDEF.

Q: Hi. Ellie Watson, CBS. First for Secretary Austin, you said yesterday countries are working to move equipment, like more armored vehicles, into Ukraine, but much of it is not there yet, and the NATO Secretary General said the Russian offensive has already started. Do you believe the Russian offensive has begun? And when does the window close to get all of the -- this equipment in order to make a difference?

And for the Minister, is it already too late for all of this equipment to get in in order to make a difference ahead of spring? If Russia is not stopped in Ukraine this year, is Estonia next?

SEC. AUSTIN: Well thanks, Ellie. In terms of whether or not Russia has started its offensive, what we're seeing, as you've heard me say before, is Russia continue to introduce large numbers of troops into the theater. Those troops are ill-equipped and ill-trained, and because of that, they're incurring a lot of casualties, and we expect that that will continue. We've also seen them increase their artillery fires in the Bakhmut area, and Bakhmut's been a contested area for some time. We expect to see that continue, as well.

In terms of whether or not we can get equipment there in a timely fashion, this is something that we're working on each and every day, and so for the equipment that's coming into theater, we'll bring it in. We'll train troops on that equipment - and we're training troops, by the way, in a number of different places. For example, this -- Sweden is providing CB90s, which is an armored personnel carrier, and they'll train troops on those vehicles in Sweden. Germany's providing Marders. They're training troops on the employment of the Marders, and also maneuver training in Germany. We're training troops on how to properly employ the Bradley infantry fighting vehicles and Stryker vehicles in Germany, as well. But we're also training them on maneuver and the integration of fires and combined arms training.

So a number of things are coming together. We've really laid out a detailed plan on how we're going to bring things in support of Ukraine and provide them that gear. So this is a work in progress, but it's something that our leaders are working on very, very diligently. And again, Ukraine -- it's Ukraine's fight. We're going to provide them all the support that we can possibly provide them so that they can have the best chance of being successful in the upcoming offensive.

notimagain · 17/02/2023 17:39

@Surplus2requirements

No expert but I can imagine that even if there was a fairly limited break in the Ukrainian lines and any sort of disorderly retreat a hole would appear in portable air defense allowing Russian aircraft to leap in and cause havoc.

We don't (rightly ) have the disposition of the entire Uke AD system but there will I'm sure be defence in depth, and of course whether the Russians could organise/coordinate such actions, especially if it needed to be done in almost in real time...I have my doubts..

[speculate] Even if Russian aircraft could get past all the Manpads and smaller SAM systems at/near the actual front line they'd then start running into the coverage provided by kit like S-300 and NASAM batteries positioned further back, plus they also run increasing risk of encountering the missile armed Uke Air Defence Fighters such as MiG-29s [/speculate]

I suspect the biggest threat in the next few days a mass cruise missile strike but I wonder how many cruise missiles the Russians have left in the locker?

@MissConductUS

Thankyou for your kind comment, not sure it's merited but I try my best.🤓

Surplus2requirements · 17/02/2023 17:49

@notimagain thanks, that's reassuring and makes sense

blueshoes · 17/02/2023 21:50

MissConductUS, thanks for the informative piece on the plant in Scranton, Pennsylvania churning out ammo for Ukraine 24/7

Ukraine is burning through ammunition faster than the US and NATO can produce it. Inside the Pentagon’s plan to close the gap

“We realized we had to really put our foot all the way to the floor,” said [Army acquisition chief Doug Bush].

A race against time

“We are still the arsenal of democracy,” Bush said. “And nobody does it better than the United States.”

Aye. Thank god for Defence Secretary Lloyd Austin and the USA. No one country can step up with such speed and magnitude.

Surplus2requirements · 17/02/2023 22:11

I hope this link works, sorry if its been posted before but I don't think it has.

us.cnn.com/2023/02/17/europe/ukraine-pilots-helicopter-russia-intl-cmd/index.html

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 18/02/2023 09:59

www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-february-17-2023

Key Takeaways

The Kremlin will likely subsume elements of Belarus’ defense industrial base (DIB) as part of Moscow’s larger effort to reequip the Russian military to support a protracted war against Ukraine.

Lukashenko confirmed that Belarus has implemented more Union State integration programs - marking progress in the Kremlin’s decades-long pressure campaign to formalize the Russian-Belarusian Union State.

The Kremlin’s gains in Belarus underscore that Putin’s imperialistic ambitions transcend Ukraine and that containing the Russian threat requires the West’s sustained attention.

The Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) confirmed the names of the four military district commanders, finalizing a complete turnover of the Russian military’s initial command since the start of the invasion of Ukraine.

Wagner Group financier Yevgeny Prigozhin appears to be mounting an informational counteroffensive against the conventional Russian military establishment.

Russian forces continued offensive operations along the Svatove-Kreminna line.

Russian forces continued ground attacks around Bakhmut, in the Donetsk City-Avdiivka area, and in western Donetsk Oblast.

Russian and Ukrainian military activity near Nova Kakhovka, Kherson Oblast indicates that Russian forces are likely deployed to positions close bank of the Dnipro River.

The United Kingdom Ministry of Defense (UK MoD) reported that Russian forces have likely suffered up to 200,000 casualties since the start of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a variety of laws on February 17 to integrate occupied territories into Russian legal, economic, and administrative structures.

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ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 18/02/2023 10:07

Kyiv Independent Telegram

⚡️General Staff: Iranian drone instructors arrive (kyivindependent.com/news-feed/general-staff-iranian-drone-instructors-arrive-in-luhansk) in Luhansk.
A group of Iranian military instructors has arrived in the occupied city of Luhansk to train Russian troops on the use of Shahed drones, Ukraine's General Staff reported on Feb. 17.
Earlier, Iranian instructors were spotted in Russian-occupied territories of Kherson Oblast, Crimea, and Belarus.

⚡️NATO, EU, Ukraine to hold (kyivindependent.com/news-feed/nato-eu-ukraine-to-hold-first-trilateral-meeting) first trilateral meeting.
NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg, European Union chief diplomat Josep Borrell and Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba will meet in Brussels on Feb. 21.

⚡️Russian sabotage of Kakhovka Reservoir may leave 1 million Ukrainians (kyivindependent.com/news-feed/russian-sabotage-of-kakhovka-reservoir-may-leave-1-million-ukrainians-without-drinking-water) without drinking water.

⚡️Media: In February, Russian troops' casualty rate five times higher (kyivindependent.com/news-feed/media-russian-casualties-five-times-higher-than-usual-in-february-2023) than usual.

⚡️IMF, Ukraine meet in Warsaw, reach staff-level agreement (kyivindependent.com/news-feed/imf-mission-and-ukrainian-authorities-meet-in-warsaw).
During a meeting in Warsaw, a mission from the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and Ukrainian officials reached a staff-level agreement on Feb. 17 on Ukraine's compliance with the Program Monitoring with Board Involvement (PMB).

⚡️Poland won't send F-16s (kyivindependent.com/news-feed/poland-is-not-against-sending-alternatives-to-f-16-s-in-nato-coalition) to Ukraine, not against sending other jets.

⚡️Major fire reported at chemical plant (kyivindependent.com/news-feed/major-fire-reported-at-chemical-plant-in-russias-ufa) in Russia's Ufa.
The warehouse of the Krezol chemical plant caught fire in Russia's city of Ufa located 1,000 kilometers east of Moscow late on Feb. 17. The fire has been put out.

CNN: The U.S. estimates the mercenary Wagner Group has suffered more than 30,000 casualties, including roughly 9,000 fighters killed, since Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

⚡️UK Defense Ministry: It’s harder for Kremlin to insulate (kyivindependent.com/news-feed/uk-defense-ministry-its-harder-for-kremlin-to-insulate-russians-from-war-in-ukraine) Russians from war in Ukraine
It is becoming increasingly difficult for the Kremlin to insulate the Russian population from the war in Ukraine, the U.K. Defense Ministry reported on Feb. 18.
A Russian poll in December reported that 52% had either a friend or relative who had served in the war against Ukraine, according to the report.

over 1000 again.

Ukraine Invasion: Part 37
ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 18/02/2023 10:23

UNITED24 Media Telegram

Xi Jinping wants to make a peaceful speech on the anniversary of the Russian invasion, – China's Foreign Ministry

The United States does not object to strikes on Russian military facilities in Crimea

We have no evidence that Russia is able to circumvent the oil price ceiling, – Ben Harris, US Treasury Undersecretary for Economic Policy

The Prime Minister of the Netherlands Mark Rutte arrived in Kyiv for a meeting with the President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy.

The Russian economy may lose $190 billion in GDP by 2026 due to the war unleashed by Putin, — Bloomberg
Bloomberg Economics believes Russia's economy will avoid collapse, tensions will continue and fall 8% by 2026 compared to what they would have been had Vladimir Putin not ordered an attack on Ukraine in February 2022.

Since the beginning of Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine, the West has waged a less visible but important battle against the Russian spy network, — The Washington Post
“Following the mass expulsion of more than 400 suspected Russian intelligence operatives from Moscow's embassies across the continent, intelligence agencies continue to target Russian agents still in Europe.
Representatives of the US and European special services warn that Russia still retains significant potential. However, over the past year, its intelligence services have suffered more damage than at any time since the end of the Cold War," the article says.

The Government of the Netherlands has approved the placement in The Hague of the Register of Damages from Russian Aggression, – Reformatorisch Dagblad

The US is training Ukrainian soldiers at the battalion level
According to Pentagon spokesman Brigadier General Pat Ryder, the first battalion of the Ukrainian military has already undergone training at the American base in Germany.

Poland will consider the issue of transferring MiG-29 aircraft, which are in service with the Polish army, to Ukraine. At the same time, in the event of the formation of a broad aviation coalition regarding the provision of F-16 aircraft to Ukraine, Poland will definitely join it, Polish President Andrzej Duda said in an interview with Ukrinform

The situation in the energy system of Ukraine remains shaky due to the "not the best" condition of equipment and damage to almost all power plants in the country, – the head of "Ukrenergo" Kudrytskyi

Paris has accelerated the production of weapons, so Kyiv can count on quick deliveries of additional Caesar self-propelled guns, — Minister of Foreign Affairs of France Catherine Colonna

In the Iranian city of Isfahan, fans of the local Sepahan football club raised the flag of Ukraine during a football match between their team and Russian Zenit

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