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I am such a gossip and I HATE it

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WhatsMyUsername89 · 13/01/2023 22:50

I’ve taken the past few years to really work on myself and try to become a better version of myself.

but I still feel terrible. I am such a gossip, I can’t keep my mouth shut. I have to tell someone. I really don’t know why I struggle so much, it’s definitely a family trait as I know all family members are the same.

Friend A will ask about Friend B and instead of me saying a short and sweet answer I have to tell everyone everything.

then I spend days/weeks riddled with complete and utter guilt.

I have improved on this area but I still really struggle with it. I don’t know why and I don’t know how to stop. Please be kind, I know I am a terrible person but I really want to be a better person.

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ShellsPebbles · 14/01/2023 01:12

From the other side - my life has been badly effected by somebody in my life gossiping about me. It was different to you (I assume) in that she would twist things to make things sound worse or more dramatic. She basically liked chucking people under the bus. It has actually damaged my relationships with some people.
Please think before you speak. You need to think if it was about yourself would you want everyone knowing. When people share things with you they are putting their trust in you to have their back. Eventually you could end up losing friendships as a result.

AnchovyInCowlNeck · 14/01/2023 01:15

Lalliella · 14/01/2023 01:07

I used to be like you! Then I told myself that there’s one thing I like more than gossip - secrets! So now I hug secrets to myself, feel superior about knowing things other people don’t, then when it comes out into the open I can say I knew all along but didn’t feel it was my place to say, then everyone thinks I’m all trustworthy and discreet!

LOL good tactic

oohokay · 14/01/2023 06:24

I used to have this big problem too, until I heard this remarkable life tip to "say good things about people behind their back". I tried it re mutual friends and it really brought a positive (not in a fake way, just lovely and understated) tone to my conversations.

Other people's names / life news will come up in conversation. It sounds like you learned from your childhood that this has to happen in a negative way?

It helps to simply appreciate that new info about others can be presented neutrally or even positively (it may feel a bit sickly sweet at first but chances are you'll stop at a complimentary one liner, I doubt there's a chance of overdoing it)

Being negative may also have been to make the other party (the one present in the conversation) feel better. So for example Angela (who's not present) has got a big new house and you "reassure" Paula (whom you're talking to, and who's not got a big house) by saying "that lucky bitch! ugh the house is big but it's SO tacky!" There are other ways to divert the attention, for example glossing over it "ooh yeah I heard she got a big new house, but I haven't seen it myself yet! I'm not sure about the details". Or just "I hope she enjoys it (positive/
neutral)... ANYWAY, let's talk about us! Your recent holiday pics looks fab! (change subject to something that will make Paula feel good about herself)"

oohokay · 14/01/2023 06:29

"I’ve had friendships that genuinely are built
on just gossiping about others!"

It is fun to talk about/analyse other people though! Maybe you can start off by talking about people/cases in the news recently, even posters/bonkers threads on mumsnet, etc, instead of people you know

ThorsBedazzler · 14/01/2023 09:17

I hate being a gossip. The worst thing was hearing gossip and then just repeating it with the knowledge I had zero basis for thinking it true and then the awful feeling when I realised I'd repeated something in a gossipy way that was utter bunkum. Never about someone I knew - about famous people once and about a crime in my old town once.

It made me feel like I was an old crow picking over a carcass. Not a bringer of truth.

So I remind myself of that any time I feel an urge of "oh, did you hear about so and so?"

In terms of people I know, having lived in small town I no longer gossip. I hear it, friends gossip to me but I don't then pass it on. Because I don't know if its true. And having been gossiped about (I can't quite remember some of the stuff that got back to me but it was utter nonsense) I hated the feeling of realising people actually were talking about me behind my back.

I'll only share stuff with friends that I don't mind hearing repeated back to me by someone who heard it from someone I don't know.

Anyway. It's hard to get out of, especially if it is so ingrained into your family communication methods. My mum gossips and the act of acquiring and storing knowledge about others is used as power. I just disengage. And share nothing about my life or the lives of my friends because she would just tell everyone.

GoodVibesHere · 14/01/2023 10:00

One of my neighbours is a gossip, everyone hates her. You can literally see from her facial expressions how smug and happy she is when she's 'in the know' and wants to be the first to tell people the 'news'. She'll say 'have you heard about Lucy?', in a tone where you know she's excited to spill the beans. She appears to delight in telling information whether it's good news or someone's poor fortune. Everyone tries to avoid her.

It's a horrible trait which I think it comes from a desire to be needed, or to been seen as knowledgeable and important.

searchingforme · 14/01/2023 10:04

I’m pleased you have identified this flaw in yourself and want to change it. I abhor gossip. My MIL is one the problem is she doesn’t seem anything wrong with sharing information about me and my family to anyone she chooses. This means I no longer have a relationship with her I’ve had to cut her off essentially as I can’t say anything to her without it being repeated to others and I don’t want randoms knowing my business.

please stop doing this it’s extremely rude of you and tell yourself this-who am I to be sharing information that has nothing to do with me! It can cause a lot of hurt, mistrust and break down relationships.

oohokay · 14/01/2023 10:30

@GoodVibesHere OP isn't completely volunteering the info by herself. The context OP gave is that friend A asks about friend B first (and OP can't help but reply in a gossipy and negative manner). She previously managed to refrain when other friends were prodding her for info about a mutual friend.

It would be useful for OP to say something neutral/positive, short and sweet (which will probably follow naturally from neutral/positive) in response. "I don't know" also works but is a fairly antisocial tactic.

UsefulSmartPrettyHappy · 14/01/2023 11:54

Well done for trying to improve yourself - That's really hard and takes guts and lots of self awareness. Flowers

RenovationsUnderway · 14/01/2023 18:14

I must say, these days, I notice quite early on whether someone is the gossipy type, and if they are, I leave them as acquaintances rather than becoming friends.
It tends to afflict people who are very concerned about being a member of a group (I guess gossip is social currency). Also, people who are feeling insecure, bored, envious, or competitive. Hopefully this is just a transient stage, and not a permanent state of mind.
Actually I don't think any of us do 0% gossip. But I prefer the 10%ers to the 80%ers.

WolfFoxHare · 14/01/2023 18:16

If you can’t say anything nice, come sit by me.

WhatsMyUsername89 · 14/01/2023 18:53

Thanks so much everyone. Really appreciate people being so kind and helpful.

I have started a book on how to be better conversationalist And a lot of that book is about listening to hear rather than listening to respond. Which I think will help me.

as a previous poster said, I even gossip about people I don’t know???? How SAD!!! Social media most certainly doesn’t help that situation. Someone will say “have you seen Mary and John haven’t posted on Facebook together in a long time? Maybe they’ve broken up” and me, big mouth Brenda, will say it to someone else. What a cow I am.

2023 is the year of being a better version of me

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XenoBitch · 14/01/2023 19:25

I used to be like that too. It was about trying to be accepted into a group, and my awful self-esteem. Now I try and minimise talking about other people at all. When other people do, I interject with something nice about the person they are talking about.

Have a Google for 'the 3 sieves'

Winterday1991 · 14/01/2023 19:29

I live for gossip, it makes life so much more interesting.

Mezmer · 14/01/2023 19:30

ah don’t worry. It’s good to talk!

Vitriolinsanity · 14/01/2023 19:39

@WolfFoxHare one of my favourite film characters.

I'm in HR, imagine the gossip I hear. I actually hate it, to the point I am considered aloof, when the reality is many times I'd really wish I didn't know people's secrets.

But I see the damage it can do and the upset it can cause.

whirlyswirly · 14/01/2023 19:49

@Vitriolinsanity me too! Just dealing with something horrible which originated because someone couldn't resist a gossip.

It really is a nasty habit when you think about it. Especially when people dress their own need-to-know up as sympathy or concern for others.

Rainbowshine · 14/01/2023 20:13

I also have a side of the family that is gossipy so I get that you grew up with it being “normal” and it’s a learned behaviour for you. It’s good that you’re breaking the cycle.

My aunts and grandmother were like this and at family gatherings they would compete against each other with exaggerated details about their neighbours, old family friends and so on. I found it quite boring as a teenager listening to them talk about people who I hadn’t got a clue who they were. It was also really horrible hearing them being very judgmental about people.

I have found that when I am going to meet people I sometimes plan what to say ahead if I get asked about a friend or recent situation. For example a friend was splitting up with her husband, he was an alcoholic which got worse when they had a child, and had been violent one evening and she’d had to lock herself in the bathroom and get the police. So a “juicy and dramatic” story that is ripe for gossiping about. But it was not fair to share it, who knows who would pass it on and exaggerate what happened, what if it got back to the ex and created an issue for my friend?

I decided that when meeting with friends that were more acquaintances for her that I would not share anything, it’s not my news or information to disclose. The friends asked and pestered, I said I didn’t know the details but hoped that my friend was ok as it’s never nice when people split up, and then changed the subject. I got asked again, oh you must know something, it’s ok you can tell us, we won’t talk about it to anyone. I said , No honesty if you want to know more you’ll have to ask her, I don’t have anything I am able to share about it.

Yes the people were disappointed but you know what? My friend’s distress and experience was not for fodder for their entertainment. They were not interested in helping or supporting her. Just the drama and relishing in it. I am not friends with that group anymore. I realised that we acted as characters in a story for them, we served a purpose as a source of material, we were not really people to them.

And so I have just gossiped about them now 🙁 I am well aware of the irony of that. But I hope you can see my point that it’s the lasting impression and damage that gossiping can do is not worth it. You might feel like the cool person for a while because people are listening to you, but at what cost.

Arm yourself with some phrases that deflect, distract and move the conversation on. Give yourself a reward when you use them instead of gossiping. Don’t beat yourself up too much if you slip up, it’s like any habit that you need to reform, it’ll take time. Good luck and sorry for such a long post!

FormerGossip · 14/01/2023 21:49

This is such a great thread and I really admire your openness here, OP, and your desire to change a bad habit.

I used to be a huge gossip. Like you, I was brought up by a mother who spoke very negatively of others. A typical conversation with her would be a rundown on all the things she disliked about my siblings or her neighbours. It's not only that though. I also endured a lot of abuse and naturally felt very bad about myself as a result. I didn't trust anyone.

I think I can safely say that I am a very different person now. For me, it has been about a long journey from self loathing to self acceptance. I know that must sound like a line from a self-help book, it probably is, but that is what has happened.

I have had a lot of therapy around processing the abuse, and eventually extracted myself from the layers of rage, grief and anxiety that kept me down.

Like any bad habit, it is difficult to change without support so I put a lot of energy into building a life based on positivity. e.g. I now work for an organisation with a culture of dignity and respect so I not subjected to gossip in the workplace; I have removed myself from relationships with gossipy people, and I hide threads and feeds based on gossip and negativity.

Just as a person with a drinking problem needs to be away from other heavy drinkers, so too does the reformed gossip need to be away from back-stabbers.

Maray1967 · 16/02/2023 11:04

This is a really thought provoking thread. I’ve never been a gossip and I’ve just realised that it’s probably because my mother never was. I never heard her talk about anyone’s private business - she never did more than talk nicely about how someone had enjoyed their holiday or were having an extension built etc. I heard her close down the attempts of others to gossip. As with so
much else this is probably very much learned behaviour and not easy to stop.

Anomi · 25/03/2024 13:28

Hi OP, has anything changed for you a year later?! I came across your post searching for help on the same thing and could have written what you have word for word. Just wondering if you’ve managed to make any changes away from it! Thanks!

Trophyfoot · 25/03/2024 13:31

I like a good gossip too. However, I never ever pass it on maliciously, it's more like I've got exciting news and I'm pleased for those involved. Also, usually by the time I hear it "everyone" knows anyway, so I'm not breaking any confidences.

If someone tells me a genuine secret I can and do keep my mouth shut.

I don't think it's awful, it's all part of what makes the world go round.

WhatsMyUsername89 · 01/04/2024 17:03

Anomi · 25/03/2024 13:28

Hi OP, has anything changed for you a year later?! I came across your post searching for help on the same thing and could have written what you have word for word. Just wondering if you’ve managed to make any changes away from it! Thanks!

Yes! So much so! I had to make a REAL effort to stop. And I slipped up a few times.

However probably 6 (ish) months after I posted this. There was an incident at work where something had been shared with someone it shouldn’t have, and they were trying to work out who had shared the info. I had known the information and probably previously I would have shared it. And the relief I had knowing I hadn’t shared it and wasn’t going to get into trouble was IMENSE! The feeling of having a clear conscience was so nice.

I also am conscious to say to people “nope don’t tell me that” i have a lot of friendship groups who know of each other. & have previously heard from one group of friends gossip and someone from the other group knows & would share. All got very complex. The power of being able to say “please don’t tell me anymore about that” was so nice. What I don’t know won’t be shared etc etc!

It is hard at first to not do it, but eventually it’s easier. I also (randomly) have become more distant from people who would say to me “you know all the goss, fill us in” funnily enough when I started shrugging my shoulders, they didn’t want to meet up as much!

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itsjustbiology · 01/04/2024 19:46

Would it help you OP to realise that everyone you speak to sooner or later will not think anything of you but that you are totally untrustworthy? They will keep you round for the gossip but on their terms not yours? They wont really like you at all ?
That sounds horrible sorry ..I am not judging you just trying to point out a solution to help you stop!

biscuitnut · 01/04/2024 20:00

I used to be a gossip when I was younger. It’s an awful trait but don’t beat yourself up, we are human and the desire to ‘bond’ is a strong one. Thankfully you are self aware and want to change. I told myself was if I wasn’t prepared to say it to someone’s face then I really should shut my mouth. I make a lot of noncommittal noises now and stay away from the drama. I am much happier for it.