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Rishi wants the over 50s back to work, which are the companies clamouring for over 50s employees?

177 replies

StarInTheHeavens · 12/01/2023 11:25

I never hear about a shortage of over 50s staff so who are the companies that will absorb this workforce?

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GameofLifer111 · 13/01/2023 09:43

Alexandra2001 · 13/01/2023 09:01

Thats the job spec for work experience position for a 14yo, email signatures would always be automated and templated to company policy.

So i don't know what sector your in but thats an incredibly low bar.

Down here Devon Cornwall, there is such low pay that any job paying more than £25k will attract 100s of applicants.

A recent Cross Country customer service role had people applying from e.g. teaching nursing HE and ambulance, over 250 applicants.

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Down ere in Cornwall part time jobs are still frowned upon. So most people needing part time hours either work 1 day a week for NHS or the Council and get a cracking good hourly rate for it too.

Or they just quit and retire early!

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Dramalady52 · 13/01/2023 09:45

"Hit the ground running" 😁 the one that puts me off is "fast paced environment". I want to work nice and steady, less likely to make mistakes then.

ManyNameChanges · 13/01/2023 09:50

The only people who are already retired before retiring age are either people who can afford it or people who can’t work, aka they have some health problem.

Neither group are likely to go back to work.

So what’s the point if this announcement apart from blowing hot air, distract us from the vote on Monday (that will more or less squash any strike action before it started)?

Loudhousefun · 13/01/2023 09:52

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 12/01/2023 21:43

Ah , I was thinking you were a Traffic Warden /Enforcement

Lots of walking
Looking at things ( bad parking /tickets)

That is my plan after retiring from NHS

Uniform
Good walking shoes
Get a patch near schools ( I still bear grudges of being pissed off by other parents and my DC are in their 20s Blush )

Instead of having to deal with late patients and having to work round their bad time keeping , I'll have to deal with drivers bad choices and "I'm only a few minutes late" ....... Shame . You have a Fixed Penalty .

** I realise its a job that gets a load of abuse

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ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 13/01/2023 10:09

Ugh ‘fast paced environment’. That’s awful too. No thanks!

Proactive
Think on feet

Hate them all. Slow and steady would make me think about applying.

But actually this is indirect agediscrimination. Who in their late 50’s wants fast paced or dynamic? They just don’t.

MarieG10 · 13/01/2023 10:20

AnyFucker · 13/01/2023 07:51

I retired from a fairly niche NHS job at 55.

I went back 2 days a week and during covid times the pension abatement rules were cancelled. Abatement is when if your combined income and pension exceed what you were earning before then your pension is reduced.

The govt have extended this until at least 2025. I can now work as much as I like without it affecting my pension. Which is handy because succession planning in the NHS is pretty poor and my skills are still very much in demand.

Well don't worry if you want to work last then, as there is no way those abatement rules will be back soon. There is a growing number of retire and returns who as soon as they return seem to end up doing more hours and being promoted such is the desperation in the NHS. Not all is the jobs market, some is shit management

Weightlossanne · 13/01/2023 10:20

I left work last Easter at 63. I’d worked for the same company for over 30 years and up until the last five years had been happy. I was contracted for 30 hours a week but ended up working on average an hours unpaid overtime a day and still struggled to keep on top of things due to increased workload. I got fed up of being the old woman in the corner who was expected to sort everything out when all the ‘can do’ young managers agreed to the impossible. I’m living on savings plus my husband still works. I’m tempted back to work but only 10-20 hours a week.

JFDIYOLO · 13/01/2023 10:50

I'm 59 and was overjoyed to get my current job in September. There must be some who can afford to retire at 50 but I haven't met them

babsanderson · 13/01/2023 11:08

I will be working until state pension and maybe beyond.
Everyone that I know who has retired early has either done so through inheritances, cashing in personal pensions, or had an excellent employers pension. But most have inherited a lot of money.

babsanderson · 13/01/2023 11:10

Weightlossanne · 13/01/2023 10:20

I left work last Easter at 63. I’d worked for the same company for over 30 years and up until the last five years had been happy. I was contracted for 30 hours a week but ended up working on average an hours unpaid overtime a day and still struggled to keep on top of things due to increased workload. I got fed up of being the old woman in the corner who was expected to sort everything out when all the ‘can do’ young managers agreed to the impossible. I’m living on savings plus my husband still works. I’m tempted back to work but only 10-20 hours a week.

That is what I have found. Old women in the workplace just expected to do lots of skilled work on fairly low pay while all the bright young things take the credit and have no real understanding of what you do.

pinneddownbytabbies · 13/01/2023 13:50

AngelinaFibres · 12/01/2023 22:49

We are group 1. Hell will freeze over before I set foot in a classroom again. My husband's job caused him so much stress he became ill. He got himself made redundant at 54 and claimed his pensions at 55. He is 60 and happier and healthier than ever. He does the odd bit of very well paid consultancy work, usually over the phone, but will never return to proper work. Nothing Richi Sunak could offer would change our minds.

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Nah, you're not group 1, you're group 3. As is my BIL after teaching did for him as well.

Kazzyhoward · 13/01/2023 14:16

Foxywood · 13/01/2023 08:38

All those retiring on 'gold plated' pensions will be paying tax on them remember. The gov wins in the end.

Not really when it's "govt" money paying the pensions in the first place - the tax is just a small amount of it going back to the "govt". Of course "govt" has no money, it's all taxpayer's money (or for the last couple of decades has been borrowed money due to the deficit!).

babsanderson · 13/01/2023 14:21

@Kazzyhoward Pensions people are retiring early on are either private pensions or employer pensions from the public or private sector. The best pensions I have seen friends with work in the private sector.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 13/01/2023 16:36

Not really when it's "govt" money paying the pensions in the first place - the tax is just a small amount of it going back to the "govt". Of course "govt" has no money, it's all taxpayer's money (or for the last couple of decades has been borrowed money due to the deficit!)

An employee has to contribute as well. Otherwise you don’t get it..

NomDePrune · 13/01/2023 22:30

@ArcheryAnnie "May I ask what you mean by the civil service? I really do need to move jobs, and was both heartened and intrigued by your post! "

ok so here's an example:

uk.indeed.com/viewjob?jk=322f52b72265df88

It's for HMRC and is not unlike my job. You aren't expected to have experience that exactly matches the post. When you apply, there are skills test and and interview but they decide if they want you without you having to give your life history. You do that when you accept the offer. I found that really refreshing after endless agency applications. It's more about being the right fit - they really don't care what you've done before or where you went to school. A friend of mine has just completed an apprenticeship - he's 64!

jgw1 · 14/01/2023 07:02

Brefugee · 13/01/2023 09:42

this is what i really don't understand about the current Tories. They claim to be conservatives, which in theory should mean they believe in The Market.

And even for the most ardent followers of Milton and Chicago School Economics that means the market sets the price of everything. It is absolutely Economics 101 that when something is scarce (in this case labour) its price goes up.

But suddenly, when it is their mates (or themselves in the case of the NHS) having to pay for it, The Market is a crock of shit. It must be one thing or the other.

Labour governments not quite so much, but the last lot seemed more Chicago School than Marxist to me, so the same applies to them.

I think for the current government you are mistaken. They are not really Tories in the traditional sense. They do't believe in markets, they believe that they are superior, should be in power and the main aim of being in power is to enrich themselves and their mates who already have more money than they could possibly need in a lifetime. See for example the Prime Minister, whose family mysteriously still manage to have a business in Russia despite the sanctions...

pompomdaisy · 14/01/2023 07:21

I'm a senior lecturer nursing and 55. I'm planning 4 more years full time, 3 years part time. I actually enjoy working but it's a different matter working on the wards, it's physically exhausting. There's no way I could keep working in that situation!

OhIdoLike2bBesideTheSeaside · 14/01/2023 11:03

I'll be honest I find work exhausting (early 40's) juggling everything!!

If there was some way that I could retire at 50 I would definately do that but unless I have a secret relative who is about to leave me thousands in inheritance or I have a lottery win it's quite unlikely realistically.

The cost of living is so high now lots of people have to work past retirement age never mind retire early but for those who can good on you I just wish that person would be me!!!

Or even to retire at 50 would be nice!

OhIdoLike2bBesideTheSeaside · 14/01/2023 11:03

I mean, even to retire at 55/60 would be nice

67-68 as a retirement age just totally depresses me to be honest

ArcheryAnnie · 17/01/2023 19:20

I'm going to have to work until I'm dead.

AsdaYellowTins · 17/01/2023 19:55

Chewbecca · 12/01/2023 20:33

My workplace- huge financial services city of London- has all the policies but the reality is there are very few over 50s working there, all made redundant in favour of bright eyed young people and people in India.

Perhaps we need to start reporting stats on the workforce age breakdown, with info on new hires and redundancies as well as the gender (should be sex) pay gap.

very good idea

babsanderson · 17/01/2023 20:45

ArcheryAnnie · 17/01/2023 19:20

I'm going to have to work until I'm dead.

Can't you manage on the state pension?

Adviceneeded200 · 17/01/2023 21:11

I'm 55 and leaving my industry. Government messing makes it ridiculously complicated and unproductive. Can't be arsed with it.

I'll be doing a part time role in eduction (industry specific).

Sunak wants to look at why we have this problem.

GPTec1 · 17/01/2023 21:32

imho this "getting over 50s back to work" is to find a ready made excuse for economic failure by the Govt.

If our economic future is dependent on a Dads Army of the unemployed and recently retired coming back to work.. God help us.

But it isn't, they just need another excuse for when the Ukraine war is over.

Real reason is Brexit.

jgw1 · 17/01/2023 21:53

GPTec1 · 17/01/2023 21:32

imho this "getting over 50s back to work" is to find a ready made excuse for economic failure by the Govt.

If our economic future is dependent on a Dads Army of the unemployed and recently retired coming back to work.. God help us.

But it isn't, they just need another excuse for when the Ukraine war is over.

Real reason is Brexit.

I thought the reason was Jeremy Corbyn not know what a woman is?