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DS was attacked on the way home from school.

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Whatshouldhappenhere · 05/01/2023 11:27

DS is 12 and in year 8. He would ordinarily get the bus home and should have been on the bus on Tuesday but the bus company sent a small coach and the driver stopped allowing children on once it reached capacity meaning DS had to walk home (50 min walk).

On his way home he overtook three boys from his year. He didn’t know the boys and had never interacted with them before this, he didn’t even know their names. As he walked past them, one of the boys ripped his airpod out of his ear so DS snatched it back, shouted at them and ran away. After a short while, DS could see they weren’t chasing after him so he decided to stop running but then the boy who had snatched the airpod did start running so a chase ensued. When the boy caught up with DS, he proceeded to start punching DS in the face and had punched him 4-5 times before a woman who lived on the street intervened and he ran away.

The woman kindly drove DS home and I took DS to her home yesterday to thank her with some wine and chocolates. She invited us in and told us she witnessed the attack and said the other two boys were there too (this is with no prompt from DS that any other boys were involved). DS didn’t see the other two boys so wasn’t aware they were nearby.

I informed the school as soon as I found out what had happened and they told me they had passed the message onto the student liaison officer who would call me back. I also called 101 and an officer is visiting to take a statement on Saturday. The SLO called me yesterday morning to ask for the full story and said he would speak to DS first thing. It transpired that the boy who attacked DS was expelled before Christmas so the SLO told DS there was nothing the school could do. There was also no attempt to find the other two boys, we still don’t know their names.

I just spoke to the SLO again and he reiterated that they are unable to do anything because the boy has been expelled. When I asked about the other two boys, he simply said that DS has said they weren’t involved so he didn’t feel any further action was necessary. When DS said they weren’t involved, he meant they didn’t attack him but they clearly witnessed it because the woman who helped said there was three boys. The SLO hadn’t even attempted to find out who they are to speak to them which is frustrating in the least.

I’m just really upset it even happened. He should have been on the bus so this situation should never have occurred but obviously he should be safe walking home from school anyway. I’m disappointed with the school’s response as well, it feels as though they just want to wash their hands of it because the main perpetrator is no longer their pupil. Are the school right here or is there anything else I should/could be pushing for? DS is a really great kid who has never been in trouble and would never provoke anyone, he was literally just walking past the wrong people.

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WandaWonder · 05/01/2023 11:28

Why can they not be charged with assault?

WandaWonder · 05/01/2023 11:29

Sorry I wasn't expecting you to answer that I am just shocked and appalled this has happened

Whatshouldhappenhere · 05/01/2023 11:31

An officer is visiting on Saturday morning to take a statement so I’d imagine they will then investigate and speak to the perpetrator. There’s CCTV close by and also the woman who witnessed it plus I have photos of DS’s face so I can’t see how the boy would get away with it but will have to see what happens with that.

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Goodread1 · 05/01/2023 11:34

Hi Op
Was there any ctv cameras about where you son walked past going from school then?
For police to know about.

I think you should escalate as a police matter now in some way, as this is obviously unacceptable,
The school do not seem that interested,

I would get into with the police to visit the school about making enquiries of the names of the boys who assaulted him ect.

quietnightmare · 05/01/2023 11:36

Your poor son. Good on him for snatching back his air pod though that was brave

Goodread1 · 05/01/2023 11:38

I am glad the police are getting involved like that and obviously you have a good witness and photos 📸 of your son injuries too.

I think you definitely have really good grounds for a case,

I hope something is sorted out in you and sons favour 🙏

Whatshouldhappenhere · 05/01/2023 11:38

Yes there’s a few shops and a community centre plus when DS initially overtook them it was outside a Tesco extra with cameras. We drove up the street where DS was chased and also saw a few ring doorbells so unsure whether any will have picked anything up.

I called the police after calling the school on Tuesday as soon as it happened so they are aware and are taking a statement on Saturday. I hope the police will do something because it’s obviously a fairly serious assault.

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Seeline · 05/01/2023 11:38

The school have no power to sanction a boy that is not their student. I can't see what you are expecting the school to do in this respect.

If the other boys did not participate in the assault, I can't see what the school need to do there either. They may not have been willingly walking with the other boy, and may have been too scared to intervene.

The police are the only body that can investigate the situation.

I would definitely be challenging the school as to why you DS had to walk home though. Do oyu pay for the bus? Why does he qualify for the bus otherwise? I would be seeking reassurance that this doesn't happen again.

Whatshouldhappenhere · 05/01/2023 11:41

Yes it’s a bus everyone pays for but it’s a school bus service. No idea why the bus company has chosen to do this because it’s a popular route so a small coach would never be big enough. I have told the school about the bus situ so I’m hoping they will contact the provider to explain it isn’t adequate.

I thought the SLO would in the very least have tracked the other two boys down to talk to them about it but he didn’t try to find out who they even were.

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Nimbostratus100 · 05/01/2023 11:44

It is a police matter not a school matter

I am sorry this happened to your son, it is horrible

Please complain to the bus company too.

FatGirlSwim · 05/01/2023 11:45

Similar happened to ds and the school were much better than yours. The two boys were charged and it went to court.

FatGirlSwim · 05/01/2023 11:46

Our school did speak to the bystanders, and liaised with the police.

Whatshouldhappenhere · 05/01/2023 11:49

The woman I spoke to when I phoned 101 said they would liaise with school. The school have just said there’s nothing they can do because he’s no longer a pupil there following expulsion.

DS is obviously still a pupil there though, as are the other two boys so I thought they still have some sort of responsibility whilst ever something happens to their pupils wearing their uniform? I certainly know that children were punished when I was at school for acts committed outside of the school grounds/hours purely because they had the uniform on.

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cestlavielife · 05/01/2023 11:52

quietnightmare · 05/01/2023 11:36

Your poor son. Good on him for snatching back his air pod though that was brave

Not the right approach. In self defence classes they advise you let go of belongings it is not worth risking assault over an object.
Tell ds to let go of belongings they can be replaced. He cannot.

Hoppinggreen · 05/01/2023 11:55

Your poor son.
However, I do agree that school can’t do anything as the boy involved is no longer a pupil and the other 2 may have been there but didn’t actually do anything.
Hopefully The Police will act

cestlavielife · 05/01/2023 11:55

But yes police matter for the assault.

Whatshouldhappenhere · 05/01/2023 11:55

cestlavielife · 05/01/2023 11:52

Not the right approach. In self defence classes they advise you let go of belongings it is not worth risking assault over an object.
Tell ds to let go of belongings they can be replaced. He cannot.

He loves his AirPods and was more concerned about them than himself when he got home 😅. I actually said the same thing to him though, that we can replace the AirPods but can’t replace him.

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Swannning · 05/01/2023 11:59

Your poor DS. And you - it must be very traumatic for you both Flowers

I can see that the school have no jurisdiction over the pupil that is expelled but they certainly should be talking to the other pupils as they are complicit by failing to act.

ChristopherWren80 · 05/01/2023 12:01

So sorry this happened to your DS, I hope the police take it seriously.

SE13Mummy · 05/01/2023 12:02

Sorry to read about your DS being assaulted. The school doesn't have responsibility for ex-pupils but if CCTV of the two witnessing students is provided, I imagine the school may be able to help police identify them.

PrayingandHoping · 05/01/2023 12:06

Your poor son

The other other 2 boys do anything other than witness the assault? Maybe that's why the school won't involve them as they didn't actually do anything?

I think police is the best course of action....

Mischance · 05/01/2023 12:06

The school need to get on top of the transport issue. Your son should not have been left to walk that far. Definitely need to take that up with the school and also to tell your son that if it happens again he must go back into school and let them sort it out.

MarshaBradyo · 05/01/2023 12:08

Oh my goodness this made me tearful for your dd how awful

I have a Ds the same age

StarDolphins · 05/01/2023 12:13

Seeline · 05/01/2023 11:38

The school have no power to sanction a boy that is not their student. I can't see what you are expecting the school to do in this respect.

If the other boys did not participate in the assault, I can't see what the school need to do there either. They may not have been willingly walking with the other boy, and may have been too scared to intervene.

The police are the only body that can investigate the situation.

I would definitely be challenging the school as to why you DS had to walk home though. Do oyu pay for the bus? Why does he qualify for the bus otherwise? I would be seeking reassurance that this doesn't happen again.

The boy is their student though, he’s just currently expelled. The HT should give him an additional massive bollocking.

Also, the 2 bystanders which were with the abusive billy should be given a stern talking to, reiterating the schools Anti bullying policy. Prevention is better than cure.

I’m so sorry this happened to your son OP, it must be so upsetting for you.

Nimbostratus100 · 05/01/2023 12:19

StarDolphins · 05/01/2023 12:13

The boy is their student though, he’s just currently expelled. The HT should give him an additional massive bollocking.

Also, the 2 bystanders which were with the abusive billy should be given a stern talking to, reiterating the schools Anti bullying policy. Prevention is better than cure.

I’m so sorry this happened to your son OP, it must be so upsetting for you.

no, the school cannot contact an expelled pupil, and no they should not be conducting their own investigation into a criminal assault that happened off the premises and outside of the school day.

This is a police matter, if the police need information from the school, I am sure the school will be cooporating with the police.

Schools are not law enforcement agencies.

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