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I have no friends

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Cornerorner · 27/12/2022 20:02

I’m not looking for sympathy, but what would you do/have you done in this situation?

I have/had two long term friends one for 23 years and other for 9 years. They aren’t connected and have never met. When friends have been and gone they have been there regardless. Over time it became me putting all the effort and communication into the friendships. If I didn’t text then I wouldn’t hear from them. For a year or so I have slowed down on this to see if they’d make effort themselves, unfortunately they haven’t so I stopped too. I had occasional text messages asking how I and my family were, I’d reply, they’d read the message and not respond. Days later I’ll hear from them, but they won’t even open my reply for weeks at a time. I know I haven’t done anything to upset them or offend them. It’s been almost 2 months and I haven’t spoken to either of them much at all because I’m not texting every few days like I used to.

I find it sad as I valued both friendships in separate ways and never thought either of them would do this. It makes me feel like I am a bad person or friend and this is why it’s happened. My partner has been my rock and fills the void that is missing from lack of friendships and socialising, but I know it’s not realistic to rely on him to fill that need. It’s lonely, the only person I have to speak to beside my partner is my children and cousin, which isn’t quite the same.

I feel like the right thing to do would be to wipe the slate clean as such, and end the friendship completely, as in block and move on so there isn’t an option to let them back in. My partner comments how I check my phone to see if I have a message from either of them and that it’s affecting me more than I admit. I feel if I give up completely and they do one day get in touch then I’ve removed that choice because I’m unhappy with the lack of contact right now.

So now I’ve explained, would you cut contact entirely or would you keep the door open?

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Cornerorner · 27/12/2022 20:05

To add I meant I haven’t heard from either for around 2 months, even my merry Christmas message was read and ignored. So it isn’t a case of them having busy lives and I’m constantly on their case for contact.

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Lentilweaver · 27/12/2022 20:06

I'd distance myself from them and make new friends.

grapehyacinthisactuallyblue · 27/12/2022 20:11

Unfortunately it seems like they may have other priorities in life, so maybe they don't think about you as often as you think about them. Sad, but it's life.
If I was in your shoes, I would still make an effort to keep in touch. But at the same time, try to make new friends too.

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Anon123343 · 27/12/2022 20:22

Hey OP

I’m in a similiar boat. I’ve given up. I don’t ever believe someone could be busy 24 hours. It takes literally 10 seconds to reply. I haven’t messaged. Meant to be my close friend but I realised I keep making the effort. So I stopped contacting which was soo hard. I haven’t heard from her. If she does ever message I won’t reply to her. The amount of times she has left me on read.. I’m just done with it. It really is heart breaking.

RocketIceLollie · 27/12/2022 20:26

Whether people admit it or not, this probably the norm for a lot of people. It's a shame really but as you get into your 20s everyone goes off in their own directions with work and families that you end up with a small circle of friends.

It is quite shattering this case though. Going by the time they even take to open a message from yourself then yeah I'd stand back. Not cut off entirely but stop being the first to make the move.

Appalonia · 27/12/2022 20:29

What stops you from phoning them and having a real life conversation about what's going on?

Winterpetal · 27/12/2022 20:29

I text once ,then the ball is in their court to text back
i realised it was always me arranging coffees ,never a friend .
so I stopped .
some of them have taken the lead and will text me to meet ,others have fizzled out.
but all of them ,I’m seeing a lot less than when I was arranging it .
im not in a situation where it’s possible to make new friends
so I suspect most of the friends left will fizzle as well

Cornerorner · 27/12/2022 20:36

Thank you all for your replies, a first for me! Lol
We’re nearing our 40s now so I assumed the majority of friendships at this stage become stable, as our children get older and we have more time and freedom to do our own thing. I see many women make time for friendships in those cases.
If they had extremely busy life styles I would accept waiting some time for a reply, but when I check my Facebook account (never use but never closed down) they are active and comment on other friends posts. If they wanted a friendship they would try harder too.
Sorry to hear you are in the same boat Anon, this is what I’d like to do too for peace of mind and a fresh start, but something always stops me and I hang around like a puppy waiting for contact.

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canesugar · 27/12/2022 20:37

I have no friends. Similar to you and long term friends who cba to contact me and I was doing all the work. I am lonely but in the end they weren't my friends. Friends don't take days to reply every single time.
Friends help make arrangements and don't leave every meet up to you and friends contact you every now and then not leave it up to you to only ever contact them.

So I've decided I am ok to live with no friends vs those that cba I occupy myself most days to ensure I don't think about it too much. Good luck OP. I'm sure you'll make new ones soon enough. As pp have said you could always hang onto these while you make some new ones.

Ilovelurchers · 27/12/2022 20:41

I'm mid 40s and have lost countless friendships over the years just due to them fizzling out - no malice on either side (I don't think). Luckily have made new ones along the way too - I'm aware I've been fortunate in that regard. I think it does sound like these friendships might have fizzled out for you sadly OP, which isn't any reflection on you or even necessarily what the friends think of you - it may well just be the stage they are at in their lives.

Is there anyone you know currently through work or hobbies or family friends that you could try and get to know better? Or any old friendships from your past you might be able to rekindle (I have some very good friends that I was out of touch with for years in the past)? This might be a better bet for you, sadly. Good luck with it.

Anon123343 · 27/12/2022 20:42

OP iv been trying for ages. Like you I kept waiting around to hear from her. Everyday I was like I need to stop this because it was really affecting me. What hurt the most was she used to always tell me to message her daily and keep her updated with things and I thing I got sucked into the habit of doing it. Recently she made a new group of friends and I noticed she left me on read and never answered my calls. Randomly messaged me when she needed things. Once you block them out of your mind you will feel so much better. It was really really hard but this week im feeling better. Iv not contacted her. Can see she is posting things on social media. I feel a bit sad - clearly she used me but glad the friendship has ended.

notsosoftanymore · 27/12/2022 20:44

I think a new situation has developed re friendships, there have been some similar threads. People are dropping friendships or don't reply to texts or messages for weeks, if ever. It's really frustrating when you see that someone has read your message and they just don't reply.

I think it's a consequence of the pandemic and lockdown and the general stress of life because of the economy, worries like climate change and the war in Ukraine with all its implications (and, dare I say Brexit!). I tell myself this to feel better rather than feel rejected!

Even my ACs do it and get annoyed if I chase or question. An old friend of 30 years has recently started ghosting me, a friend of 10 years in the US on secondment randomly sends gushing messages but has just completely failed to reply to my very detailed and kind pre-Christmas message.

People are retreating into family or isolating, suffering mental health problems, whatever. I find it makes me feel very lonely.

therestissilence · 27/12/2022 20:47

I now only have one real friend ; another mum from my daughter's school. We go on walks and talk, talk, talk. And actually, she's all the 'friends' I need! We don't do social media or even text (we agree on a time - and turn up! - remember that?!)

All my other 'friends' - the ones who I thought I'd know forever - disappeared into the ether with social media years ago. They suddenly became uncomfortable with phone calls and direct communication, and I just wasn't comfortable with the text / emoji stuff. It's been such a strange shift.

Strike up a friendship with someone who isn't married to their phone!

Cornerorner · 27/12/2022 20:51

It’s such a shame that it appears to be a common issue, I assumed it was mainly something that happens in your teens/early 20s when you change and grow. Neither myself or either friend have had any changes, although I guess I wouldn’t know as they don’t involve me anymore.
notsoftanymore you make a good point, many people do get wrapped up in their lives and forget about those who were there for them or they may need in the future and will be long gone.
I have a busy life myself but one thing I have always done is make time for friends. Clearly that is my downfall!

how do you make new friends at my age?
i struggle socially and rarely go anywhere so I don’t have the opportunity to meet new people. ‘Mum friends’ aren’t quite the same, they come and go when the children change friends so I never let it stray further than a hello. My work place are full of much older women who I couldn’t picture socialising with outside of work, we have nothing in common.

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EllaPaella · 27/12/2022 20:53

You don't need to formally end the friendships. People change and grow apart, I'm sure it isn't personal. Some friendships are transient, it's just how things are. If they mean a lot to you and you miss them then tell them, you might find they haven't noticed that they were letting things slide and put in more effort. It's so easy to become offended and defensive over friendships when the reality is that people are just busy, distracted, get pulled in different directions and maybe don't make the effort they should. Be upfront in a non confrontational way and see what response you get.

Anon123343 · 27/12/2022 21:01

OP im like you. Doesnt matter how busy I am I contact . I still manage to make that time. Its all about priorities. We are just not priority.

SummerSazz · 27/12/2022 21:08

I find phoning people is a much better way to keep in touch - much more personal and better connectivity. But then I'm nearly 50 and maybe more used to it.....

Xmasungrateful · 27/12/2022 21:16

I don't have any friends. I have had past friends who have drifted off maybe I have done it myself without realising as well. I don't block or remove anyone though. I just leave it if there's contact then there is if not then there's not. I fe like it becomes a thing if o was to block /remove. So I just get on with life

UsingChangeofName · 27/12/2022 21:24

EllaPaella · 27/12/2022 20:53

You don't need to formally end the friendships. People change and grow apart, I'm sure it isn't personal. Some friendships are transient, it's just how things are. If they mean a lot to you and you miss them then tell them, you might find they haven't noticed that they were letting things slide and put in more effort. It's so easy to become offended and defensive over friendships when the reality is that people are just busy, distracted, get pulled in different directions and maybe don't make the effort they should. Be upfront in a non confrontational way and see what response you get.

This.

I never understand these threads.
Two things always stand out for me.
First one is why you need to 'test' the friends..... 'not texting and see how long it takes them to contact you' type scenario. If I want to see someone, I contact them and arrange it. I don't sit there hoping they will contact me. Some people are just organisers and other aren't. But I can't understand wanting to spend time with someone but then sitting there home alone feeling sad rather than seeing them, because it so happened that I did the inviting last time. It doesn't make any sense.

The other is, why people go through life with just two people they are friendly with. Firstly, I don't see what colleagues ages have to do with the fact you might have something in common or not, but mainly, if you are feeling lonely, why not get out of your comfort zone a little and start doing something you enjoy? Join 'Get back to netball' or a choir or a book club or become a guide leader or a football coach or join a climbing club or a fundraising group or whatever it is that you are interested in and might enjoy.

Lentilweaver · 27/12/2022 21:24

Cornerorner · 27/12/2022 20:51

It’s such a shame that it appears to be a common issue, I assumed it was mainly something that happens in your teens/early 20s when you change and grow. Neither myself or either friend have had any changes, although I guess I wouldn’t know as they don’t involve me anymore.
notsoftanymore you make a good point, many people do get wrapped up in their lives and forget about those who were there for them or they may need in the future and will be long gone.
I have a busy life myself but one thing I have always done is make time for friends. Clearly that is my downfall!

how do you make new friends at my age?
i struggle socially and rarely go anywhere so I don’t have the opportunity to meet new people. ‘Mum friends’ aren’t quite the same, they come and go when the children change friends so I never let it stray further than a hello. My work place are full of much older women who I couldn’t picture socialising with outside of work, we have nothing in common.

I am 50 and making new friends. ( though some old ones have drifted away). Why don't you go anywhere?

I am making friends through book clubs, walking groups, theatre groups and volunteering. I am an immigrant so can't rely on uni and school networks, so I just get on with it. I also WFH now. I have realised that if I don't make an effort, friends aren't going to arrive on the scene.

VIVS63 · 27/12/2022 21:50

Maybe she's like me and doesn't have the confidence to go to book clubs, walking groups etc. There are plenty of those going on around where I live, but I just haven't got the guts to go along as I know I will struggle to think of something to say and end up getting sidelined and stop going. It's just not that easy for some of us.

Lentilweaver · 27/12/2022 21:55

It isn't easy for most people. But there really is no other way to make friends as you get older and the schoolgate mums drift away, or if you WFH, or if you move around a lot... If you struggle socially, the only way to not struggle is to keep trying...

You don't have to say much in walking groups btw, and I assume even less in running groups ( I would join those if I ran).

Sowhatnextthen · 27/12/2022 21:59

Sorry, op, that sounds so hard.

I had similar with a friend I considered one of my best friends, we met at work 17 years ago and saw each other at work every day and sometimes weekends. I felt we were really close. She moved back to the U.K. (I live abroad) I realised we wouldn’t be *As close, but she barely texted me, didn’t tell me she was pregnant both times until almost at the point of giving birth. The final straw for me really was when I sent a long text for a catch up, she replied with quite a lot of news, I then replied about my mum having breast cancer and no reply…she replied to a social media story of mine, maybe two months later, with a laughing face..that’s all. After that I stopped following her (it doesn’t show that to her) and didn’t engage with her posts or message her. I knew she definitely knew, she sent a couple of emoji replies to my stories..I just ignored…it’s not a friendship. I can see we’re finally not friends as had no birthday message for Dds birthday or mine. So sad.

Richmond212 · 27/12/2022 23:27

I'm feeling exact same way . I used to have a good few friends but 1 very best friend that I could trust with my life. this year through different situations the friendships have ended. The 1 that really bothers me though is my bf. I never thought our friendship would fade like this. I'm so hurt. I text her and get no reply. Till I text again and ask if she's OK. I get a sorry but nothing else, so I've just realised that I've got to stop chasing something it's making me look ridiculous

UsingChangeofName · 27/12/2022 23:55

What LentilWaever said.
You don't have to "think of something to say" when you are doing something. That's the point of going to something you enjoy / find interesting rather than some kind of 'meet up' or social thing to make friends. You are busy doing that thing.
Everyone gets nervous about going to something for the first time, but, if you want to meet more people, you take the bull by the horns.
Or, you sit alone every night wishing you had.

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