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If you were in 2 minds leaving London… and did… did you regret it?

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lking679 · 19/12/2022 12:52

Just that.

If you lived in London and weren’t sure about leaving… then made the move and did…
did you end up regretting it?

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lking679 · 19/12/2022 16:14

I’ve only considered moving to places where it’s walking distance into town and there are trains or buses. Wouldn’t want to move to become taxi’s to our children in future!

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FuckabethFuckor · 19/12/2022 16:15

I moved to Edinburgh a few years back. I wanted to live slap-bang in the middle of the city, walking/cycling distance to everything, and I didn't have two million quid. So I had to leave London to achieve that.

I have complicated feelings about it. I absolutely love Edinburgh and am very happy here for the most part. However, on balance I miss certain things about London. I like the scale, the (relative) anonymity, and the constant flux of change. I like that there are so many restaurants, so many cuisines, so many museums and things to see and do.

Up to a point, I have also limited myself career-wise by moving out of London. Now, for me that was a conscious choice, and I spent a couple of years before we left shoring up my own network so that I had a reliable black book of people to call if I needed work. But in my industry, even Edinburgh and Glasgow are relatively limited compared to London. It's worth extremely careful consideration if your work/career, or that of your partner/spouse, is in any way niche, or if 90% of the main employers for your industry are London-based.

Ilovechoc12 · 19/12/2022 16:18

Moved out 10 years ago - one of my biggest mistakes of my life. I was persuaded that you might as well make one jump for the permanent home than a mid sized terraced one small garden and move again.

Everyone is so spread out here - drive everywhere - see more squirrels / birds than people on a day to day basis.

Minimum 13 min walk to get some milk etc ....

No buzz

Depends what life you want. I do like being able to cycle on the common for miles that's one perk with no roads.... rest of the stuff I miss London

SantaStoleMyPies · 19/12/2022 16:22

I left London a few years ago, after about 10 years there.

I am glad I moved and, in an ideal world, would move somewhere even MORE remote (currently in a 1000-people village about 20 miles form the nearest town). I love wide open space and fresh air so much.

However, I look back fondly and there are so many things I miss. Living somewhere cool, among such a diverse set of people and having so much culture on my doorstop.

But I realise the London I miss doesn't exist anymore - though all those benefits do. Like all Capital cities it changes with each new wave of inhabitants, and the recent movers have shaped it how they want it. As they should.

The London I really miss now exists only in my memories [cue Celine Dion singing here].

Ah, but what a 10 years it was. It changed me in so many ways!

SantaStoleMyPies · 19/12/2022 16:23

OH and I also miss the training that all those tube staircases gave me. I could move my feet SO fast when flying down them, they were a blur.

Now I have to hold a handrail if there's more than about 10 steps Grin

RishisProudMum · 19/12/2022 16:25

SantaStoleMyPies · 19/12/2022 16:23

OH and I also miss the training that all those tube staircases gave me. I could move my feet SO fast when flying down them, they were a blur.

Now I have to hold a handrail if there's more than about 10 steps Grin

This made me laugh! During lockdown, I gained a lot of weight because I was missing my ‘commute cardio’. Those stairs keep one trim! 🤣🤣🤣

lking679 · 19/12/2022 16:25

FuckabethFuckor · 19/12/2022 16:15

I moved to Edinburgh a few years back. I wanted to live slap-bang in the middle of the city, walking/cycling distance to everything, and I didn't have two million quid. So I had to leave London to achieve that.

I have complicated feelings about it. I absolutely love Edinburgh and am very happy here for the most part. However, on balance I miss certain things about London. I like the scale, the (relative) anonymity, and the constant flux of change. I like that there are so many restaurants, so many cuisines, so many museums and things to see and do.

Up to a point, I have also limited myself career-wise by moving out of London. Now, for me that was a conscious choice, and I spent a couple of years before we left shoring up my own network so that I had a reliable black book of people to call if I needed work. But in my industry, even Edinburgh and Glasgow are relatively limited compared to London. It's worth extremely careful consideration if your work/career, or that of your partner/spouse, is in any way niche, or if 90% of the main employers for your industry are London-based.

Love Edinburgh such a nice place.

work is a consideration, the role I do can be done remotely but anything more senior would mean more face to face and although not niche most of the work is in London. It’d be career limiting to move but not sure if I would or could go more senior in future years!

I think there seems to be a big difference from going from city to town or city to the sticks! My sisters village had one shop and no bus service, not sure I could hack that after 15 years in zone 4 or less!!

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TangoWhiskyAlphaTango · 19/12/2022 16:27

lking679 · 19/12/2022 16:14

I’ve only considered moving to places where it’s walking distance into town and there are trains or buses. Wouldn’t want to move to become taxi’s to our children in future!

That was my biggest criteria when I moved here with teenagers and it has been the best decision. DS has a job in town and DD can easily catch the train to and from Uni. The last thing I wanted to do was move and then have to drive into the town. There are so many lovely areas though in walking distance you are spoilt for choice especially if like period houses.

Rubyupbeat · 19/12/2022 16:28

We have best of both worlds. Both born and brought up in the east end of London and still live here and own a lovely rural house in the lakes, it's my family house and has been in the family for 8 generations. We spend 50/50 in both. We are so fortunate .

lking679 · 19/12/2022 16:29

SantaStoleMyPies · 19/12/2022 16:23

OH and I also miss the training that all those tube staircases gave me. I could move my feet SO fast when flying down them, they were a blur.

Now I have to hold a handrail if there's more than about 10 steps Grin

yeah my step count on a day in the office well over 10,000 and after lockdown was knackered doing it!

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bakewellbride · 19/12/2022 16:30

We left Fulham for the coast. Absolutely incredible. Cheaper, people happier and friendlier, much more family friendly (we now have 2 kids). I look back fondly on our London life and I love an odd day trip but SO glad we left! Best thing ever. Do it op!

LovelyRachel · 19/12/2022 16:31

We did. We moved to Cornwall (am cornish)

And absolutely regret every minute. It's a shit hole and now we can't afford to move back.

100% regret

SantaStoleMyPies · 19/12/2022 16:31

There is a LOT of walking involved in living in London and the city gives you the energy to do it.

I live in the countryside now and walk the dog twice a day, so stil get my steps in. But I am nowhere near as fit as I was in London.

Of course, I am also older....

On the plus side, waiting more than 5 mins for the next train no longer feels like the worst luck ever Grin

FuckabethFuckor · 19/12/2022 16:31

lking679 · 19/12/2022 16:25

Love Edinburgh such a nice place.

work is a consideration, the role I do can be done remotely but anything more senior would mean more face to face and although not niche most of the work is in London. It’d be career limiting to move but not sure if I would or could go more senior in future years!

I think there seems to be a big difference from going from city to town or city to the sticks! My sisters village had one shop and no bus service, not sure I could hack that after 15 years in zone 4 or less!!

Yeah. It's tricky for sure. I can make work work for me because I'm self-employed, across two very different sectors, which helps.

The people in my old game (marketing and advertising) who've had real issues are the ones who have a) remained on salaried contracts and b) moved out to rural areas (as a lot of people did in 2020 and 2021).

The whole WFH revolution never really happened at scale, and more and more companies are now starting to push for people back in the offices or recruiting people who can be there in person.

I know more than a few people who have relocated themselves into a dead end, or even had to cut their losses and move back because they simply couldn't access the opportunities and/or progression that they wanted or needed outside of London.

maxelly · 19/12/2022 16:33

TallulahBetty · 19/12/2022 14:41

What do you mean by buzz, anyone who has said that? Genuine question

For me it's really hard to define, it's a sort of feeling rather than tangible for the most part, but I get it, it's really irritating when Londoners smugly refer to 'the buzz' of the city that smaller towns just don't have without being able to logically explain what it actually is! As someone who's lived in both I'll have a go... nb I am not saying all of this is or should be universally wonderful and liked, it's all a matter of taste but for me it's what I mean by 'the buzz'

There's a certain anonymity to London which you don't always get elsewhere, people come and go, you don't always know your neighbours well and you are frequently in busy/crowded places surronded by lots of strangers when going about your daily business, which can be quite exciting/fun for those of a certain mindset.

It's also (IMO) quite untrue that Londonders are unfriendly, yes people are often rushing around not hanging around looking for a chat on random street corners or on the tube, but I would actually say it's vastly easier to make friends and acquaintances in London than almost anywhere else in the UK, with a little effort and in the right context you can easily meet and strike up conversations with a hugely diverse range of people from all over the world as London is hugely cosmopolitan and has a big transitory population of working-age people. Plus most Londoners, even the natives Wink are actually quite friendly when you get to know them!

There are lots of shops, cafes, bars, restaurants everywhere, even in the more suburban parts of London, you are rarely far from a 24 hour shop or somewhere to buy a poncey coffee Grin and even if you don't avail yourself of these facilities that often, just seeing them around gives a 'buzzy' feel, and also the shops frequently change so even on your familiar local high street there's usually something new and different to look at.

London also encourages spontaneity, the enormous range of cultural, artistic, sporting, social events and opportunities happening on a literally daily basis, and if you live pretty much anywhere in zone 1-6 you decide you want to attend an exhibition or go to a concert or take up an esoteric hobby or eating an unusual new cuisine, find it, book it and be doing it within an hour - you may not actually avail yourself of this that often, IME most Londoners are like everyone else and may be full of grand plans for the weekend or whatever but when it comes to it prefer slobbing on the sofa with a pizza and Netflix - but there very definitely is something in the feeling of knowing you have all the options. Even living within a hour's train journey of a major city where logically speaking I had very nearly the same options and possibilities as when I lived in London I somehow didn't have that same feel, yes there's perfectly good theatres and galleries and so on but not the same volumne and accessibility as London and there's no real difference between jumping on a train or the tube but it feels more of a faff and something you have to plan actively for and so on (I said it was illogical and feelings based!)

AmyPeralta · 19/12/2022 16:42

Moved up north after 20 years living in London. I loved London, but was getting tired of the crime in our area, how everywhere was busy and crowded and how long it took to get to countryside.
Overall I'm happy we moved. Nowhere is perfect, but I love being close to countryside and a city. Was just good to have a change after so long in one place.

Bing4859 · 19/12/2022 16:47

Moved an hour out of London during lockdown and have never looked back. Was there for 10 years and loved every minute, but the quality of life outside of London is just so much greater for me. The only thing I miss is the restaurants and variety of cuisine, other than that nothing. And as I go back to London at least once a week for work, you realise how angry Londoners are 😂

sinkyt · 19/12/2022 16:50

The whole WFH revolution never really happened at scale, and more and more companies are now starting to push for people back in the offices or recruiting people who can be there in person.

I dong know anyone bar obviously roles that can't be from home who doesn't have a hybrid model.

RedRobyn2021 · 19/12/2022 16:57

My mother lived in central London for over 20 years and moved us north when I was 6, on her own (single parent).

My partner, also from London, moved up about 10 years ago.

I visit every other year but I have no idea why anyone would want to live there. Sorry to be so blunt as I'm sure some people love it, but I do not understand the appeal.

Yorkshire is where it's at IMO it's beautiful, more affordable, people are happier... your quality of life is just better. Again, IMO.

sinkyt · 19/12/2022 16:59

I do think people romanticise London & I say this as a born & raised one. London is amazing if you live in z1 or z2, have the money to enjoy it all. Most people don't live like that though. I'm in z3 & have dc, my weekends look very different to when I was a teenager or a young adult here however now my weekends don't look particularly different to friends who live in other cities/towns.

sinkyt · 19/12/2022 17:01

What do you mean by buzz, anyone who has said that? Genuine question

buzz to me is things going on, people milling about regardless of time or day. But there are plenty of areas of z3-6 that imo don't have much of a buzz.

Charlize43 · 19/12/2022 17:02

I love London. Just walking through Piccadilly towards Leicester Square, the Charing Cross Road & Covent Garden at night gives me such a thrill.

I've lived her most of my life and would miss it tremendously. There are still many areas I haven't been to or amazing things I've yet to see, like the spectacular Hindi Temple in Neasden.

I love all the galleries, museums, restaurants, and all the people. I can't wait until I'm retired, get my free travel card, and go to all the free events on Eventbrite.

How does the saying go, 'Once you're tired of London, you're dead.' or something like that.

starpatch · 19/12/2022 17:04

Yes really missed it and regretted the impact on my 7 year old particularly. Really I made a financial decision and was distracted by memories of the countryside in my own childhood. Loss of his friendships and the childhood he loved. The fun he was having at previous school where he had friends which ended- the new school just isn't as much fun, stuff stolen, teasing, misbehaviour in class. He is going to secondary next year though so we are taking this as a fresh start and hopefully things are getting a bit more positive. We were shared ownership so would have been very difficult to go back.

sinkyt · 19/12/2022 17:05

People who live in London always say they love it because there is so much to do. My question is how on earth do ordinary people afford it? Housing is so expensive it seems that both parents have to work full time with a long commute so how do you have the time?

Many parts of London we're unfashionable & not desirable so lots of people bought very cheap. I would argue most people with young dc don't go into "town" every weekend but stay more local.

TheNefariousOrange · 19/12/2022 17:14

I miss the London from my early 20s when i could live in a houseshare, go out and enjoy it. In reality, the London I left was me in a very stressful job working every hour to keep a roof over our heads in one of the few areas where I felt DD was safe from knife crime, where the cost of a parking space was more than my current mortgage and the 6 mile drive to work took me 45 minutes. I now live in the suburbs in the North and we have a much better quality of life