Would a child go straight into Y2?

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That’s what my NDN has said is going to happen with her 3 year old. So at school starting age, skip Reception and Y1 and go straight into Y2.

He’s undeniably bright - reading and can remember times tables. She mentioned today that the nursery SENCO person has recommended this. But surely there’s all sorts of other problems with this - being much younger and not emotionally at the same level as Y2 children. The difference in Reception aged kids and Y2 is vast. Is this something a school would really do? And then also the reading and maths - what if he just has a phenomenal memory but needs to learn the comprehension element?

My children are much older but I don’t know if I would my child doing that, no matter how bright they were.

Don't be so ridiculous. Like they have the budget for that!!! It is for children with disabilities/special needs!

Special EDUCATIONAL needs. Not special needs per se.

A child who is gifted has special educational needs.

I think that would be insane. I’ve got a 3yo starting school in September and a child in y2. They are cognitively so different. Even if my 3yo was reading well etc her social and emotional skills are so far removed you just couldn’t put her in a class with 6/7 year olds and expect that to go well.

I missed out primary 4 and went straight from 3 to 5 as I was considered very bright. Did mean I started secondary aged 10 as my birthday was late in the year. there is a big difference developmentally at that age.

A child who is gifted has special educational needs.

Legally, no they don’t.

Not at that age, but it is not uncommon for a year 5 to go into year 7 and bypass year 6 in a grammar school area

It wouldn't be the best idea, 4 year olds and 6 year olds are very different. My school has a reception, yr 1 and year 2 class as it is a tiny school but the year 2s move into the Yr 3/4 class for maths and English. My exceptionally bright middle child works above his year and they just give him extension work. He needs social interaction with peers of his own age though.

A child who is gifted has special educational needs.

No they don’t, don’t be so ignorant. I find this quite insulting towards those who struggle to access the learning in school and often can’t even get the support they should be entitled to @OldChinaJug
SEND is not a definition to hijack for the ‘gifted.’ I find that stance quite disturbing. You should be ashamed.

Can’t believe I need to provide a link for this but here you go 🙄

www.england.nhs.uk/learning-disabilities/care/children-young-people/send/

In an educational context, some of them do. 'Legally' is a different issue. That's to stop schools writing children off for being too hard to teach tbh. It ensures their educational needs are met within an educational setting.

However, schools have a statutory requirement to meet the educational needs of all children.

Special educational needs can arise in any child for any reason. A child may be identified as SEN for any number of reasons not just because they have a diagnosis or a disability. They can also be removed from SEN provisions within mainstream school if they no longer have an additional specific educational need.

Gifted children are often neglected educationally because ofsted are only interested in attainment and a child who is gifted will already be attaining the 'expected standard'. But not meeting the needs of gifted children can lead to all manner of problems arising from boredom - often very poor behaviour which diverts resources from all children.

So, yes, schools have an obligation to meet the needs of gifted children as well as those at the other end of the scale and a good school will recognise this and respond appropriately even if they are not required by ofsted to provide this information.

Gifted falls under a sencos job but some schools have two sencos, one just for gifted

In a educational context being gifted, on its own, does not mean a pupil has SEN, at all. A diagnosis isn’t required for a pupil to have SEN and SEN comes in many forms, but exceptional ability is not a SEN. Case law shows this.

In my experience this just doesn’t happen in UK schools and she must have misinterpreted something. Year groups are more about age than anything else. They’ll provide different school work based on ability but I’ve never heard of a child being moved up a year group, that’s more of an American thing isn’t it?

I don't believe a child would ever skip reception and year 1. I've got a really bright five year old and while they are working at a different level in terms of numeracy and literacy to their class mates they've been doing lots of learning about school life that they are going through with everyone else.

Thank you!

A SENCO may also be responsible for the most able, but that is in addition to their SENCO role, not part of it as exceptional ability is not a SEN.

Similarly, in addition to their SENCO role in many schools the SENCO also has responsibility for those with EAL, but EAL is not a SEN, the SENCO just happens to have multiple roles.

Snap, although I only went up one year. Dreadful idea.