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Would a child go straight into Y2?

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GorgeousLadyofWrestling · 18/12/2022 16:31

That’s what my NDN has said is going to happen with her 3 year old. So at school starting age, skip Reception and Y1 and go straight into Y2.

He’s undeniably bright - reading and can remember times tables. She mentioned today that the nursery SENCO person has recommended this. But surely there’s all sorts of other problems with this - being much younger and not emotionally at the same level as Y2 children. The difference in Reception aged kids and Y2 is vast. Is this something a school would really do? And then also the reading and maths - what if he just has a phenomenal memory but needs to learn the comprehension element?

My children are much older but I don’t know if I would my child doing that, no matter how bright they were.

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EL8888 · 18/12/2022 17:55

MissRainbowBrite · 18/12/2022 16:37

I'd be utterly amazed if this actually happened. A child starting Reception may be very bright but is no way equipped or ready socially and emotionally to mix with 6/7 year olds. They need to mix with children their own age to bring these skills on and develop in an all round way not just intellectually.

This. They benefit from the whole experience of school

She’s either misunderstood which is ironic or she’s a Billy Bullshitter

GorgeousLadyofWrestling · 18/12/2022 17:56

Yeah I agree it really doesn’t sound like a good idea for so many reasons. He’s a lovely little boy but he’s definitely not like the children two years above him. Isolated is definitely the word and I would be worried about that. Hopefully NDN has got the wrong end of the stick and nursery meant he’d likely be working two years ahead but still in the cohort of his age group.

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PritiPatelsMaker · 18/12/2022 17:58

DS was very bright and he started in Reception. They just gave him more challenging work.

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3peassuit · 18/12/2022 18:01

DD2 used to join the year above for maths and was given different homework, could your NDN be talking about something similar?

SixCharactersinSearchofanAuthor · 18/12/2022 18:08

My neighbour's child was similarly remarkable - even Music Tots said he was too advanced for them at 2. He was so marvellous he had to go to a private school as state school could never have copied with his genius. She was so sorry that we were all unblessed with our bog standard ordinary children.

He's just a normal kid. She's a pillock.

LadyMonicaBaddingham · 18/12/2022 18:08

Bullshit. She's a liar, and a very bad one at that.

Changechangychange · 18/12/2022 18:15

So is he also going to be doing Y2 PHSE, Y2 sports, Y2 foreign languages, Y2 science, Y2 music and art? Aged 4?

Our school even has separate playgrounds for EYFS, KS1 and KS2 kids, to stop the older kids intimidating the younger kids (not intentionally - just by being bigger, faster and taking up more space. It would be a brave four year old who would insert themselves in a Y6 lunchtime football game). A reception child in with Y2 would be completely excluded socially as they just aren’t mature enough to fit in.

This is nonsense OP - not sure whether the nursery Senco is talking rubbish or whether the mum is, but either way, not going to happen. There is so much more to school than times tables and reading.

chocohoardersanonymous · 18/12/2022 18:21

DS was the youngest in his reception class but was very good at reading. The headteacher decided to let him stay in reception in the mornings when the class did all the social activities and then he went to work with years 2 and 3 for all his literacy and maths work in the afternoons. It worked really well for him. I do think that he really needed to be with his own age group for the social activities though.

BeanieTeen · 18/12/2022 18:29

A reception child in with Y2 would be completely excluded socially as they just aren’t mature enough to fit in.

Indeed, and where’s the end point? Being the only 8 year old in a Year 6 class in a few years time? Completely inappropriate.

Skala123 · 18/12/2022 18:32

I was moved up a year as a young kid and it made life pretty hard. Bullied at middle school. Did GCSE's at 15 and couldn't leave school legally. Went to uni at 17 and couldn't get a student loan etc. Academically I was fine but the rest was hard

walkinthewoodstoday · 18/12/2022 18:35

No. Not even at a few paying school.

Lndnmummy · 18/12/2022 18:48

My ds does phonics and maths with higher year groups but the rest of the time is spent in his reception class. He also gets his reading books from Y1-Y2

BrieAndChilli · 18/12/2022 18:53

Benjispruce4 · 18/12/2022 17:28

@BrieAndChilli wow that’s amazing! Have never seen that advanced a reading age.

he was a really late talker - didn’t utter a single word until he was gone 2. Think he was just soaking it all in as once he started talking we realised he could read. As soon as he started school the headteacher had him assessed by the Ed Pysch. He’s still a brain box at 15 yet has no practical skills!

Changechangychange · 18/12/2022 19:16

BeanieTeen · 18/12/2022 18:29

A reception child in with Y2 would be completely excluded socially as they just aren’t mature enough to fit in.

Indeed, and where’s the end point? Being the only 8 year old in a Year 6 class in a few years time? Completely inappropriate.

The logical endpoint is those maths prodigies at Harvard aged thirteen - which is honestly tantamount to child abuse in my book. Not something to aspire to.

Happyhappyeveryday · 18/12/2022 19:18

No chance. Might join some Y2 lessons, as pp have said.

Starwarslover · 18/12/2022 19:21

My best friends son is the same, he has been diagnosed at 3 with ASD and is extremely high functioning. He can read adult books, can do his timetables and is multiplication and division. He just started primary and he’s in reception. The school said that academically he is obviously way ahead but the social skills of reception etc are really important, and for him perhaps even more so.

If I was the parent I’d be pushing for reception entry with extension work.

bakewellbride · 18/12/2022 19:53

I used to teach and I can't imagine such a thing happening. Also while I'm sure the child is bright, memorising times tables doesn't really necessarily measure intelligence or understanding accurately. After all they are probably just sounds to him. So he can say the words 3 times 3 is 9... but does he actually know what 3x3 means? Probably not as he's only 3.

Reception would be more appropriate. It focuses on play and getting kids to do things for themselves, as well as improving their listening and attention skills. A lot of it is social interaction too, all of which I'm guessing would be for benefit to the child in question. It's not as black and white as it being the 'easiest year' and therefore one to be skipped.

Also his 'reading' at that age is probably just by sight and reception would focus on his phonic knowledge. He'd struggle being plummeted straight into year 2 without knowing what a trigraph is!

skyeisthelimit · 18/12/2022 20:01

I highly doubt they would let him skip 2 years. My friend does have an incredibly intelligent child who was born early September, and they did offer for him to go up a year, but no more than that. He was given work that met his requirements and that was 2-3 years ahead of the year group.

I was at school with a girl who was a year younger than the rest of us, that was in the 80's.

TYpi · 18/12/2022 20:04

A reception age child would not have the social capacity to join the Y2 group

Fleabigg · 18/12/2022 20:06

Someone involved is very mistaken or is talking shite. It wouldn’t happen.

wishing3 · 18/12/2022 20:07

2reefsin30knots · 18/12/2022 16:36

Maybe the SENCo said 'when x starts school he'll already be working at Y2 level' and the mum has misunderstood.

This is what I was thinking.

fgswhywouldIdothat · 18/12/2022 20:11

My daughter went to a small school. Reception, year one and two were mixed up and streamed for literacy and numeracy depending on ability. But most of the time they were very much with their own year groups.

PritiPatelsMaker · 18/12/2022 20:21

My neighbour's child was similarly remarkable - even Music Tots said he was too advanced for them at 2. He was so marvellous he had to go to a private school as state school could never have copied with his genius. She was so sorry that we were all unblessed with our bog standard ordinary children.

He's just a normal kid. She's a pillock

Oh God I know the type. We had one when DS was at school. In Reception she used to get his reading book out of his bag as he came out and wave it around so everyone could see how very advanced he was.

When she learned much later that my DS was working at a higher level for English and Maths, she went from being ok with me to being really quite horrible.

ofwarren · 18/12/2022 20:29

This happened to me in what is year 5 now. I got put into year 6 for 2 years. This was the 80s
I've not heard of it happening recently though.
My eldest son was classed as 'twice exceptional' in primary school but was never streamed into an older class. I'm glad because he wasn't emotionally ahead whatsoever.

MargaretThursday · 18/12/2022 20:34

Assuming state:
No way.
For a start off, if the school is full, then year 2 can only legally have 30 children in a class.
But also it would be a bad idea for lots of reasons. Dm was put up 2 years at primary (and is a summer baby) and she had a fine time academically but she said things like sports she just couldn't come anywhere near the rest of the girls which really knocked her confidence.

I'd suspect Nursery has said something like "he's doing very well. He's doing some things that they don't normally teach until year 2".