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Mumsnet world is like a movie to me, anyone else?

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MoaningMyrtle202 · 11/12/2022 21:27

Im well travelled and work with the general public in the UK so like to think I have some kind of idea of your average Joe blogs generally speaking.

When I come on mumsnet however the general replies from mainly British posters seem to show an alternate universe.

People refer to working ‘in the city’. Which city is this? Why call it ‘the city’. Example ‘I was a lawyer in the city’.
It sounds like Hollywood movie speak. I’ve never in my life heard anyone say ‘I work in the city’. People just say ‘I work in London/Leeds/Cardiff’ or ‘i was a lawyer’.

Thats another thing. A lot of people use the word lawyer on here but but I’ve rarely heard that term used in the UK, normally it’s solicitor?

Then referring to marriage. So many posts about ‘protection’ and being entitled to half. Most people I know don’t have ‘assets’ outside their mortgaged home? Most people also buy jointly a house regardless of marriage. A lot of people are also in rented and there is 0 assets.

It’s like everyone lives in some Hollywood movie where they were on 120K working in ‘the city’ as a ‘hot shot lawyer’ but then married top law firm partner husband on 360K. They then gave up their career for children and are now divorcing said high earning husband and taking half these mysterious ‘assets’. Because they enabled husband to become the rich successful man he is today. Like a plot to a film.

In real life most people only own their home with a joint mortgage as an only asset. If the woman is a SAHM it’s usually because their household income is being topped up with UC. Therefore most couples both work albeit one of them part time with kids.

Where are all these Hollywood lifestyle people in everyday life?

Where is ‘the city’? It sounds great. I live in a city and no one refers to here as ‘the city’ so it can’t be here 🤣🤣.

OP posts:
ItchyLips · 11/12/2022 22:56

Tell me you're poor without telling me you're poor 🤣🤣 I get it op, I'm in the same boat. Things like mortgages, contents insurance, financial assets, and 100k salaries are a foreign concept to me. I have a pretty good working knowledge of benefits, social housing, and food banks though.

Not everyone lives like that though and my world probably looks weird to those better off. Social mobility needs to improve in the UK.

goshdoyoumeantobsorude · 11/12/2022 22:57

I have worked in The City since I was 19 until covid happened, where now I do my £150k a year job for home.
I have a personal trainer twice a week and carve out time to get my nails done and my hair every 6 weeks.
Never been a SAHM, but I do have a tidy pension. As part of my job I deal with our in-house lawyers (def not solicitors). Even I think I am in a bloody movie.

Itisbetter · 11/12/2022 22:57

Most people also buy jointly a house regardless of marriage. A lot of people are also in rented and there is 0 assets. has it not crossed your mind that every single person you know living in rented accommodation is living in someone else’s asset?

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EverythingWobbles · 11/12/2022 22:58

Cwcwbird · 11/12/2022 21:39

I used to work in the city. I was single and had no time for romance. I never celebrated Christmas. Then my great aunt died and left me a Christmas tree farm in a little town out in the country. I was going to sell it but when I went out to view the place, everything changed.

The man who had been running the farm showed me round and took me to a tree lighting festival and Christmas cookie making competition and I rediscovered my love of Christmas and left my big city life behind.

🤣🤣🤣

Dolleey · 11/12/2022 22:59

antelopevalley · 11/12/2022 22:17

236,900 people work in the City. They are also all on Mumsnet and very prolific posters.

This is the best response of this rather weird thread.

Anyway, I’m a ‘lawyer’ and I live hundreds of miles north of London. I work for a multinational where ‘solicitor’ won’t mean much to most colleagues. And I’ve even heard of the City. Some posters seem to be doing their utmost to back up the stereotype some Londoners have of us in the provinces as unable to grasp their sophisticated cosmopolitan ways.

thaegumathteth · 11/12/2022 22:59

I was going to agree when I saw the title of the thread but pretty much all the things you've listed are normal for us.

I've always known people to say lawyer and the city aka financial district.

We aren't rich but I'm a sahm. Dh works and we have a jointly owned home and assets (shares and investments) and I don't think we're unusual amongst our friends.

middleager · 11/12/2022 23:00

MoaningMyrtle202 · 11/12/2022 22:15

@name78change I’ve not heard London called ‘the city’ before mumsnet ever. My sister in-lawn works in finance in London but doesn’t ever say ‘I work in the city’. Instead she says ‘I work in finance’.

I’ve heard of ‘the city’ in ‘sex in the city’ though 😂😂😂

I live in Birmingham and have always known 'the City' means London. I'm 50.
Wondering if this is age-related?

MoaningMyrtle202 · 11/12/2022 23:01

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Bloody hell that’s a bit much 🤣🤣🤣🤣

I’m not lower middle class, I’m working class!

Not bitter but would certainly be happy for plumber DP to be earning 6 figures as would he! We’d also be very happy to be mortgage free with several properties as another poster have put that they have!

OP posts:
RosesAndHellebores · 11/12/2022 23:03

I am sure it's been said but The City refers to the Square Mile covered by the Corporation of London. From Blackfriars to Liverpool Street with Bank/The Bank of England at its Centre. I worked there from 1980 until 1995 for American Banks. There were some shops on Cheapside and near St Paul's. How excited we were when M&S opened on Bishopsgate. I worked on Bishopsgate, Queen Victoria Street, Broadgate, and a few other locations. It was very different then. Very sombre and staid until 1986 and Big Bang - nice wine bars in Leadenhall Market.

@MoaningMyrtle202 I worked in The City, married a barrister but usually refer to him as a lawyer because it's more general. Had a prenup because I had money when we met; he didn't, had 7 years as a SAHM but went back to work and started a 2nd career.

We have a few houses and a home in France. We are still working in our 60s because we love work. Most of our friends are the same as us.

I do know people on UC but through work.

Most people we are friends with are like us. We were in the middle money wise at the DC's schools - not scraping the fees nor multi-millionaires. Hardly Hollywood.

EarringsandLipstick · 11/12/2022 23:03

Then the SAHM mums I met on mat leave were low earners anyway so I don’t think they’ll struggle to get ‘back into their career’ aka customer service or Greggs.

What a horrible thing to post!

And as to your wider point, taking time out to have children & stay at home usually does pose a challenge to progression in the workplace. Simply put, you're not there for a period of time, then need to go back, reskill, demonstrate relevant experience.

Nearly any woman I know who has done this has faced a challenge. Not insurmountable. And for many it's still worth it.

But it's so common. Equally when relationships break down (as in my case), it can be extremely challenging for (usually) women. I was able to keep working but had to compromise on roles, just to be able to manage with my DC

Freddosforall · 11/12/2022 23:04

I don't know anyone who works in the City, because I don't live and have never lived in a place which is commutable to London. But I fully understand "the city" to mean the square mile which forms the London financial district. And i know exactly what it infers if people say they work in the city.

Thighdentitycrisis · 11/12/2022 23:05

@EarringsandLipstick
Btw can I ask if people in around Dublin refer to it as the city? As in “I’m driving into the city”

Sorry for the hijack OP

MurderAtTheBeautyPageant · 11/12/2022 23:05

NoelNoNoel · 11/12/2022 21:36

I guess I’m a Hollywood movie person according to the OP. The reality is I’m very average and happen to be married to a completely normal bloke that has recently retired from a high paying job in London. Our assets are a detached house in the south east, a flat in the south east, both mortgage free and a massive pension. I’ve mostly been a SAHM, although I was also a teen unmarried mum
when I was younger. We are 53 and 56.

Yes. This all seems very average.

MurderAtTheBeautyPageant · 11/12/2022 23:06

Thighdentitycrisis · 11/12/2022 23:05

@EarringsandLipstick
Btw can I ask if people in around Dublin refer to it as the city? As in “I’m driving into the city”

Sorry for the hijack OP

No. In Dublin people would drive 'into town'.

EarringsandLipstick · 11/12/2022 23:15

Thighdentitycrisis · 11/12/2022 23:05

@EarringsandLipstick
Btw can I ask if people in around Dublin refer to it as the city? As in “I’m driving into the city”

Sorry for the hijack OP

Regarding Dublin, we'd usually just say 'town'. (As in 'we're going into town'). That phrase would be used equally if you were living in rural Ireland as much as if you were in a city!

Sometimes people do say 'city centre' (more because it's what a lot of visitors or people not native to Ireland say).

Never 'the city'.

EarringsandLipstick · 11/12/2022 23:16

Sorry didn't see @MurderAtTheBeautyPageant post before I replied!

transformandriseup · 11/12/2022 23:19

Mumsnet has taught me that everyone here moves in different circles so their "real life" is different too. In my "real life" almost everyone I know is making the average UK income or less apart from a few outliers, I don't think I know anyone who's household income exceeds £100k let along know anyone who earns that salary.
I live (and have always lived) in a part of the Uk which is historically very poor with limited career options.
Many on Mumsnet do not experience this themselves and some don't know any households close who's household income is LESS than £100k.

Dolleey · 11/12/2022 23:27

Same everywhere I’ve lived in England, @EarringsandLipstick

Town or the city centre. Or if there is more than one city nearby, you’d name it. Talking about ‘going to the city’ if you mean visiting Leeds or Birmingham sounds very odd to my ears.

Annon1234 · 11/12/2022 23:28

Totally with you on this! I think people who live ‘in the city’ forget there are places outside of London and not everyone in U.K. would be researching the city and their area of work 😂 some of the comments on this post would definitely confirm this

Polkadotties · 11/12/2022 23:37

To confuse matters. In Essex we often say we are ‘going up town’ if going to the west end of London e.g to see a show or go shopping

blueshoes · 11/12/2022 23:42

AngelsWithSilverWings · 11/12/2022 22:54

@iwasaterribleteen "going up the smoke" or "the big smoke" is used quite a lot in Essex commuter towns. Maybe not so much these days but it was definitely a thing I've heard said many times over the years.

I don't know about Essex but nobody in The City uses the term The Big Smoke 😆

Itsoktogiveup · 11/12/2022 23:51
  1. Watch better movies.
  2. If you’re gonna obsess about London life this much then at least have the courtesy to google the City. It isn’t ‘a city’ it is the original Roman London, which had a wall round it that still exists in places and it still has it’s own separate Mayor etc.
  3. In Britain a lawyer may be a solicitor or a barrister (or perhaps a paralegal). We say ‘lawyer’ for convenience to refer to any of these.
  4. Protections bestowed by marriage in England include a range of legal rights such as being next of kin, and the right to occupy the marital home even if its 100% owned by the other spouse, etc.
  5. Maybe recognise that your own life doesn’t define what ‘real life’ is. Plenty of people have assets other than their home.
aDayattheLido · 12/12/2022 04:46

God there have been some arsey responses on this thread!

dancingqueen123 · 12/12/2022 04:57

In london we refer to the financial district as "the city" OP.