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What does a middle class Christmas look like?!

193 replies

Petitepenguin · 08/12/2022 15:14

Just wondering if the cost of living is changing things ... I'm not mc but live in London. My most mc friends spend xmas in London up to xmas eve & head to Norfolk for xmas day & the following days. Then head off skiing to France the day before new year's.. Their run up to xmas with the kids is super busy too filled with carol services, Christmas events & art workshops. It looks idyllic.

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GroundhogGroundhog · 08/12/2022 16:08

MissHavishamsMouldyOldCake · 08/12/2022 15:44

go for a dip in the sea and bore everyone with the news that they're now a 'wild swimming' enthusiast.

🤣🤣🤣

Nutters! 🥶

Hidingawaytoday · 08/12/2022 16:09

Petitepenguin · 08/12/2022 15:26

The mum in question is going back to their parents house for Christmas in Norfolk, hubby & kids in tow 😁

I'm not sure a family visiting extended family for Christmas is a MC thing? Isn't it just a... people thing? 🤨

MissHavishamsMouldyOldCake · 08/12/2022 16:11

Norfolk only counts if you're going to spend time in your holiday home. Not if you're visiting ma and pa.

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CharityShopChic · 08/12/2022 16:11

Petitepenguin · 08/12/2022 15:14

Just wondering if the cost of living is changing things ... I'm not mc but live in London. My most mc friends spend xmas in London up to xmas eve & head to Norfolk for xmas day & the following days. Then head off skiing to France the day before new year's.. Their run up to xmas with the kids is super busy too filled with carol services, Christmas events & art workshops. It looks idyllic.

This is exactly what all middle class people do. They only exist in London and Norfolk. Not in other parts of the country, and DEFINITELY not "up north". 🙄

Petitepenguin · 08/12/2022 16:13

peaceandove · 08/12/2022 15:59

DH and I are very much nouveau riche middle class (both our Dads grew up in council housing). So, we're ostentatiously splashing the cash and taking our DDs out to Salzburg to stay in a posh spa hotel and do the Christmas markets next weekend. Then we're renting a beach house from Christmas Eve with family and every scrap of food/booze is being prepped and delivered by Waitrose, ta very much.

We're also spending copious amounts on presents. It's all terribly vulgar of course, but rather fun nonetheless. I just can't bring myself to eat organic dust and only gift our DDs handknitted socks from rescued Alpacas - although I know this is far more morally acceptable.

This sounds good! Enjoy Salzburg, beautiful city!

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peaceandove · 08/12/2022 16:14

GroundhogGroundhog · 08/12/2022 16:07

Sounds lovely to me! Lucky kids (and you!) 😊

Thank you. I never, ever forget how lucky we all are and never take it for granted.

peaceandove · 08/12/2022 16:15

Petitepenguin · 08/12/2022 16:13

This sounds good! Enjoy Salzburg, beautiful city!

Thank you. I'm so excited to go it's been on my bucket list for years. I'm really hoping for snow but think it's perhaps too low lying?

FirstTimeMaybes · 08/12/2022 16:17

Middle class upbringing in (the suburbs of) London.

We stayed home and then visited other family in the evening.

No skiing or second homes! That's UMC surely?

We would often go to a West End show one day between Xmas and NY though. In fact just booking tickets now for the same this year.

Petitepenguin · 08/12/2022 16:18

PlumPudd · 08/12/2022 16:07

What do these allegedly “middle class” people do for work @Petitepenguin? I think you’re forgetting that the middle class includes teachers, nurses, junior doctors, people who work in IT, supermarket managers, marketing people, lobbyists, engineers etc.

From the sounds of it the people you’re talking about are somewhat posher if they have second homes and skiing holidays in France at peak times of the year. They’d either be upper middle class or gentry - that or their parents / PILs are paying for it.

Although the point about people going back to Norfolk is a bit of a red herring as virtually nobody who lives in London actually had a childhood here, and plenty will still go back to where they came from, be that Norfolk, Glasgow, Sheffield or Swansea to see family over Christmas.

The mum is a sahm & her husband is an accountant.. Her parents live outside a village in Norfolk & she goes home regularly. Skiing hol to ring in the new year a family tradition with the extended family & they go again at Easter.

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NeverDropYourMooncup · 08/12/2022 16:18

That's it. I'm middleclass.

When the transport network isn't comprehensively fucked by a combination of strikes and maintenance works (so about 2016), we go to DP's home village.

We've been getting into running, which was the slightly more sensible means of escaping the cottage and his mother's soap operas and fussing, compared to cultivating a drinking problem (two pubs, one shop, bugger all else).

Have been known to get a bit wet in the sea as it's only a bus ride away.

Christmas has been delivered by van for about five years because I can't be arsed with shopping and people.

Carol services and events have been my job.

And it gets so cold, skiing is a possibility on the Moor.

bert3400 · 08/12/2022 16:21

I would count me & DH in the high earner category. We live in a sunny warm part of Europe so Christmas is chasing the cold . We fly to New York (Us & 2 DS) for the week prior to Christmas ( hoping for snow) then Christmas eve we fly to Scotland to stay in a 'posh' hotel with family then New Year head to Edinburgh to celebrate Hogmany there . Hoping for snow ...maybe I should of booked Skiing but I hate it 🤣

Risslan · 08/12/2022 16:23

I am as mc as you can get in terms of education, occupation, earnings, interests, friends. You definitely are not describing me 😆

I think our Christmas looks like most people's. Panto, bit of a gathering on Xmas eve, Xmas day with one side of the family, boxing day or soon after with the other side. Cinema, (reasonable) meals out, kids activities to fill the rest of the hols.

No decamping to the second home in the country or jetting off for a post Xmas break. Those people are the rich & posh upper mc.

GroundhogGroundhog · 08/12/2022 16:24

gogohmm · 08/12/2022 15:41

Sounds like upper class!

We are solid upper middle class. Ok not London, but I can assure you there's no second property elsewhere in the U.K. and no ski trip, not even got between Christmas and New Year off alas.

Our Christmas consists of the kids arriving back from work, study (except one who lives with us) at various dates, lots of trips to the local pub for mulled wine and cider, boyfriends arriving at some point, off to my parents for a couple of nights then back for work (alas) and more trips for mulled cider between cooking for too many. Think it's 7 here this year.

Money isn't an issue but skiing is very expensive!

This also sounds lovely. My children are still little (early primary) so I'm trying to make the most of their excitement but it's nice to think that when this phase fades there will be trips to the pub together etc to look forward to in later years.

MassiveSalad22 · 08/12/2022 16:28

KindergartenKop · 08/12/2022 15:21

Lol, you are talking about upper MC really. Most MC people I know just stay at home and are found to be bored and freezing in the park trying to entertain the kids from 26th Dec through to the day the schools go back

Got it in one. Mumsnet is obsessed with class but always gets it wrong weirdly. Middle class is a massive swathe, not just the people who can afford second homes and skiing!

We’re middle class, will be home with the kids then down to my parents’ for a few days. Standard.

Mrsjayy · 08/12/2022 16:29

Petitepenguin · 08/12/2022 15:26

The mum in question is going back to their parents house for Christmas in Norfolk, hubby & kids in tow 😁

Ah right 😁

longestlurkerever · 08/12/2022 16:37

Bit of an odd thread. Can't work out if you're feeling jealous or sneery. If jealous, what of? The skiing holiday? They're very expensive but not a typical part of Christmas. I'm middle class and live in London but not terribly rich so do most of the things you mention except skiing, including the outdoor swimming and dry robe for Christmas. Most of them (carol concerts, crafts etc) are cheap/free even if a bit self consciously wholesome/wanky. So far we have done christingle carol concert, made a wreath with foraged ivy and pine cones, made gingerbread santas, participated in living advent calendar and visited other people's, watched charity Santa on his sleigh . We will go to family at Christmas which includes theatre show on boxing day as my mum's treat. I would like to do a light trail but they are £££ so on the waiting list for discounted tickets through work.

Tickledpickled · 08/12/2022 16:47

I’d be described as MC I guess.. went to private school, had horses, now live in big house in the shires and have a hobby-job. Our Christmas will be spent eating lots of homemade mince pies, drinking mulled wine, eating a wonderful roast at the in-laws, then back to ours for cheese, biscuits and board games. I can’t wait.
We’ve not got much planned in the run up this year, but we went for an illuminated walk at a nearby woods last week which was beautiful. Aside from that we will enjoy Christmas films with the fire lit and chocolates out!

idonotmind · 08/12/2022 16:54

God there's some wankers on this thread

'solidly middle class'

BelenaConhamHarter · 08/12/2022 16:58

peaceandove · 08/12/2022 15:59

DH and I are very much nouveau riche middle class (both our Dads grew up in council housing). So, we're ostentatiously splashing the cash and taking our DDs out to Salzburg to stay in a posh spa hotel and do the Christmas markets next weekend. Then we're renting a beach house from Christmas Eve with family and every scrap of food/booze is being prepped and delivered by Waitrose, ta very much.

We're also spending copious amounts on presents. It's all terribly vulgar of course, but rather fun nonetheless. I just can't bring myself to eat organic dust and only gift our DDs handknitted socks from rescued Alpacas - although I know this is far more morally acceptable.

You should live post all this, it sounds lovely and I am so bloody bored of endless misery and worry coming from all angles. I want a bit of escapism.

If there will be a boring relative in the mix somewhere I don't want to know. I want to know that someone somewhere is having a glorious time!

Reugny · 08/12/2022 17:00

TiAmoTiAmo · 08/12/2022 15:27

The adults go for a morning run so they can feel smug and superior then get drunk and eat a lot of cheese.
The children occupy themselves.
On 26th December, they drag their children to woodlands, parks and frosty playgrounds while nursing a monster hangover.
They come home and eat leftovers and watch TV.

That's what everyone does in my part of London.

I use to not drink on Christmas Day and go for a Boxing Day run.

If I was out early there would be a man dragging a dog round who was not obeying him.

If I was out more in the middle of the day there would be families with children walking a dog. The children's mood depended on their age.

BelenaConhamHarter · 08/12/2022 17:01

DH solidly middle class, I'm a bit nouveau.

So we go to his family and DS and I will count the minutes until after lunch where we will open gifts after a late-ish lunch.

When I was a kid the presents were opened at 7:30am in a fever of excitement whilst parents drank coffee and tried to be nice to each other.

Dinner was done and dusted in time for the 3pm ITV movie.

DH's family didn't know what ITV was Grin

houseargh · 08/12/2022 17:01

I am middle class and living in London. Anything involving Norfolk/the Home Counties/skiing sounds quite posh to me

Reugny · 08/12/2022 17:06

houseargh · 08/12/2022 17:01

I am middle class and living in London. Anything involving Norfolk/the Home Counties/skiing sounds quite posh to me

The "Home Counties" isn't posh.

You just need to know friends with space there so you can stay over that's if you don't have family.

I'm lucky enough to have both who don't live right in towns, but spend all my Christmas Days in London.

WakingUpDistress · 08/12/2022 17:09

MC, not London but the NE.

i have to say a lot if my dcs friends are doing something along those lines.
Christmas with family and a week skiing.
Granted all at the local private school (because no grammar schools here). Parents are doctors and the likes. Usually both parents working in similar level jobs.

I certainly wouldn’t call them upper class. Or extremely rich.

JassyRadlett · 08/12/2022 17:13

idonotmind · 08/12/2022 16:54

God there's some wankers on this thread

'solidly middle class'

Sorry! Didn't realise it was wanky/offensive. Like I said, I'm an immigrant and even after many years some of the nuances definitely still escape me, particularly when it comes to the class system.

The way I understood it was both parents university educated, in secure white-collar 'professional' jobs, have always been reasonably financially secure (though thinking about it husband wasn't growing up so I've probably got it totally wrong....), etc etc.

Very glad to be enlightened on how the phrase should be used!