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Coil insertion during section?

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Teafor1please · 07/12/2022 21:41

Hi. Posting here for traffic. Feeling rather miserable today!

I had a baby 6 days ago by elcs. During the procedure they fitted a copper coil. They said the strings would be trimmed after an ultrasound in Jan.

Today I noticed the strings coming out of my vagina by about 4cm. Called triage, doctor checked and said it's not out of place, strings are long, bye.

I thanked them, went on my way... Now home I'm thinking, wait, do I need to walk round with these strings hanging out of me for the next month ? I can feel it when I walk, like a dislodged tampon. Has anyone ever experienced this ? Should I call my GP or just wait it out ?

OP posts:
Melroses · 09/12/2022 22:33

Also - a bit of self-care - make sure you are doing something nice for yourself to take the stress out of it. I hope it does resolve itself for you x

LillyBugg · 09/12/2022 22:36

I find this so surprising that a GP won't trim them for you? I've got a Mirena but the string was long enough my husband could ahem feel them, so my GP trimmed them. It was so quick and no bother. Sorry you're going through this OP.

IneedanewTV · 09/12/2022 22:44

I would imagine you need to be careful that you don’t get an infection.

I think it’s disgraceful how you are being treated. After my C S I felt so uncomfortable and I didn’t have a coil fitted.

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Teafor1please · 09/12/2022 23:13

I really appreciate everyone being so nice about it and sympathetic. You start to think you're being unreasonable for not wanting coil strings down your legs!
I've started FF now as it's all too much and I'm worried my period will start before my appointment at 8 weeks and I'll still have these stupid threads hanging out. I'll try the GP again on Monday and failing that I do think pals might be a good shout.

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Blocked · 09/12/2022 23:18

I'd be surprised if it doesn't come out, you're bound to be accidentally yanking on it every time you're dressing/using the loo etc.

EL8888 · 09/12/2022 23:19

Bless you. This sounds nasty. It makes me want to weld my knees together. Can you imagine a man being subjected to this?! I think PALS is a good shout

Pelo2022 · 09/12/2022 23:29

That seems really unusual
My strings are maybe a cm if that out my cervix! I don't get why they can't trim them

Melroses · 09/12/2022 23:37

I have been down a rabbit hole of searching for info from hospitals and studies, and it seems that any HCP who is competent to do a smear or insert an iud should be able to trim the threads. I hope you get a better response on Monday.

obgyn.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/aogs.13178
www.uclh.nhs.uk/patients-and-visitors/patient-information-pages/contraceptive-coil-insertion-time-caesarean-section

WetBandits · 09/12/2022 23:43

If you really can’t bear to keep it in OP and I can’t say I’d blame you, they’re really easy to remove, especially if the strings are that long! You just need to grip the strings and give a nice big cough as you gently but firmly pull once on the strings (I remove coils every day) and it’ll slide straight out.

Sorry this has happened to you ☹️

Teafor1please · 09/12/2022 23:48

Melroses · 09/12/2022 23:37

I have been down a rabbit hole of searching for info from hospitals and studies, and it seems that any HCP who is competent to do a smear or insert an iud should be able to trim the threads. I hope you get a better response on Monday.

obgyn.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/aogs.13178
www.uclh.nhs.uk/patients-and-visitors/patient-information-pages/contraceptive-coil-insertion-time-caesarean-section

Thanks for these links. They are really helpful.

Sounds like basically it is normal to have the threads out but in an ideal world I would have a)known this before I consented to have it fitted and b)have someone I could contact if I was having problems!

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Teafor1please · 09/12/2022 23:49

WetBandits · 09/12/2022 23:43

If you really can’t bear to keep it in OP and I can’t say I’d blame you, they’re really easy to remove, especially if the strings are that long! You just need to grip the strings and give a nice big cough as you gently but firmly pull once on the strings (I remove coils every day) and it’ll slide straight out.

Sorry this has happened to you ☹️

Omg, I will see if I'm forced to try this if no one helps me next week! What an absolute faff.

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Aw273 · 09/12/2022 23:58

I had the same after my c-section in the summer. I thought it was coming out so went to A&E- they trimmed the strings there and then for me! Oh, and I’d warn against trimming yourself so that they’re just inside the vagina - mine weren’t long enough to hang out, but because the ‘strings’ are actually fine wires with sharp ends, I was constantly feeling like I was being stabbed inside with tiny needles whenever I moved.

Teafor1please · 10/12/2022 00:01

Oh hell! Ok thanks for the advice .

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quince2figs · 10/12/2022 05:41

Hi OP, I’m a gynaecologist who specialises in contraception. This is not standard practice AT ALL! I’m sorry you’re having such a stressful time.

Becoming much more common to offer a coil fit at Caesarean section or vaginal delivery, in order to increase contraceptive uptake and save women having to go through the rigmarole of arranging a fit with a small baby once discharged.
However, they absolutely should not have left the threads dangling out of the vagina - so uncomfortable for you, and hugely increases the risk of the coil being pulled out by accident. Not Greta from hygiene perspective, either.

Because the uterus shrinks after delivery and you’ll have the usual bleeding, the downside is that there is a increased risk of a coil being expelled or too low in the uterus, hence good practice to arrange the follow-up scan.

The coil threads can become longer as the uterus shrinks (ie: coil moves down), which may be what you are experiencing. It may also indicate that the coil is too far down in the lower uterus or cervix, particularly if you have pain. No way of differentiating the two without a scan. This means the coil threads don’t need to be cut to any longer than the usual 2-3cm from the cervix when fitted, and quite often need trimming shorter at follow-up if they have lengthened, but only once correct position has been confirmed.

You should have been given written information on what to expect, and a named service to contact - sounds like this was not done. There is often a gap in care where once you have been discharged from hospital, obstetric services do to view the coil as their job, and the sexual health service have no access your hospital notes, nor receive any communication from hospital as regards your coil. Your GP will have gathered hospital notes, but unlikely there will be much more detail than “coil fitted, follow-up scan booked”…..if your GP does not fit coils (most don’t now) they may not appreciate the significance of thread length.
It’s the usual sub-standard care for women.

My advice would be not to rely on the coil for contraception until you have the follow-up scan and the result is discussed with a clinician appropriately senior (GP or contraceptive dr/nurse in your sexual health service).

I’m afraid it’s the usual poor standard of care for women, due to a lack of joined-up thinking and services.

I would advise trying to get the threads trimmed by your GP (they may not do this if they don’t fit coils), or ring the maternity unit or your midwife for advice, letting them know the threads are getting longer and longer, and that sexual health/GP have refused to do so.
I would not suggest removing a coil yourself ever, and certainly not having had a C/S few days ago.
Accessing a scan earlier, certainly whilst you have postpartum bleeding, probably won’t be useful, as the uterus is still shrinking, and the amount of blood and C/S scar healing can make it tricky to visualise the coil.

Again sorry you are going through this trouble, most of which is entirely predictable and avoidable, had your care been better. Absolutely unacceptable.

Hoping you get sorted soon - please let us know.

quince2figs · 10/12/2022 05:50

Sorry for typos - great, not Greta.
Obstetric services often don’t view the coil as their job after discharge

Mirrorcell · 10/12/2022 05:52

Ask for it to be removed. Also Call PALS and explain you would never have consented to having this inserted.

Mirrorcell · 10/12/2022 05:53

Sorry posted too soon, you would not have consented had you kniwm sbout the strings. The way women are treated is disgusting.

Teafor1please · 10/12/2022 06:51

@quince2figs thank you for your post and helping me feel that I'm not going crazy! I'll contact the GP again on Monday and report back.

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Teafor1please · 12/12/2022 14:53

Just wanted to update to those of you who were kind enough to respond.
Saw an amazing GP today who trimmed an excess 18cm of threads off my coil and was horrified by the extent of them. I feel (sorry this is a bit dramatic), like I can finally enjoy my lovely new baby.

OP posts:
MardyHa · 12/12/2022 14:59

Teafor1please · 12/12/2022 14:53

Just wanted to update to those of you who were kind enough to respond.
Saw an amazing GP today who trimmed an excess 18cm of threads off my coil and was horrified by the extent of them. I feel (sorry this is a bit dramatic), like I can finally enjoy my lovely new baby.

Oh that is such good news, I bet you’d could have kissed that GP. It doesn’t sound dramatic at all, it’s hard enough recovering and looking after a baby at the same time but then adding on this debacle for you was just awful. Also then leaving you without help? A avoidable recipe for PND for those already on the edge. Congratulations on your baby and yay!

GreenManalishi · 12/12/2022 15:05

Bless you, this sounds flipping awful and you are not being unreasonable to get someone to sort this out asap. Don't try and cut them yourself as previous replies have suggested, how you would stick a pair of scissors up there and snip the wires without cutting yourself without a speculum and the wires in your eye line I have no idea?!

Call the GP, be as pushy as you need to be and if they can't do the procedure ask them for a service that can, don't be fobbed off. Good luck, as if you need this with a new baby and a CS recovery, it makes my ruddy blood boil!

Greybeardy · 12/12/2022 16:20

MrsTerryPratchett · 08/12/2022 02:03

<muses> I wonder if they'd leave a man with strings hanging out of his penis for a month... I just bet they wouldn't.

then you’d be betting wrong!

Melroses · 12/12/2022 16:21

Teafor1please · 12/12/2022 14:53

Just wanted to update to those of you who were kind enough to respond.
Saw an amazing GP today who trimmed an excess 18cm of threads off my coil and was horrified by the extent of them. I feel (sorry this is a bit dramatic), like I can finally enjoy my lovely new baby.

Great update.

The gaps in care are shocking. It obviously does not make it 'easier' in the long run if you cannot get problems sorted out easily.

I hope it all settles down fine for you.

rainbowtea23 · 12/12/2022 17:00

I was offered one just before my emergency section in October. I was expecting a contraception talk after birth not before but maybe I was being naive? I politely declined as I’m mid 30s and it took us almost a decade to conceive with unexplained infertility. I’m also not stupid enough to realise it could happen easily next time or not but things can change after having an baby and to use contraception until we were ready to try again. I had a massive fear of it coming out or migrating somewhere it shouldn’t be 😬

Fullyhuman · 13/12/2022 11:33

So pleased! Enjoy your baby 💐

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