The press and Harry and Meg

[Beezone]

I have just seen a video of Harry and Meg at some awards thing and press are asking them questions about latest going’s on.

I wish journalists/news papers etc would make a stand against them. Stop asking questions, stop putting them front page, turn their backs and put down the cameras as they pass on the red carpet. Literally go silent.

in the latest trailer they have lied and implied they don’t want to be harassed by press (even using footage that is unrelated.

so why don’t the British press make a point and stop the photos and front pages?

Personally I think they are no more relevant to the British public than Kerry Katona! I literally don’t see the point in their “work“.

You are doing the same OP by talking about them they are still relevant.

Not one of Charles' grandchildren can call him "the King of England" because he's not!

King of England is an obsolete title after James VI and I united the Crowns, you know. We've had a King or Queen of the United Kingdom ever since.

Charles is King Of The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland as well as his other Realms and Territories King. 🤦‍♂️

Makes me laugh how they wanted privacy and to be left alone, yet there they are, pushing their mushes into every bit of publicity going.
You can't read a newspaper these days without several articles about them in it.
It drives me mad.

When you get to be in charge of all the press everywhere I think you can make that decision. Till then I suppose it's going to be quite tough isn't it.

I wonder why people don't get the constitutional significance of a royal wedding. By giving Harry and Meghan a £30 million tax payer funded state wedding, with the approval of Parliament, the Queen is saying that a biracial person is welcome into the foremost family in the land and that this occasion should be a symbol of the way that Britain welcomes people of all creeds and ethnicities, as enshrined in our laws on racial abuse and racial discrimination.

The wedding was one of those beautiful spiritual events that the monarchy can achieve with its ceremony, when the laws and the spirit of the land came together, under the blessing of the religious head of the Church in England. The forms and the traditional priceless jewels and carriages underlined the honour with which the Royal Family were going to treat her. The red carpet was literally rolled out for Meghan and, should there be any doubt as to the intention of the family to be welcoming, Charles, Prince of Wales bent usual wedding protocol and walked Meghan down the aisle in place of her own father who couldn't make it.

The family was saying that they took a lead on welcoming people of all ethnicities and they expect everybody to be doing the same, and..... to further learn to appreciate non-traditional customs, black gospel choirs would sing and black reverend ministers would preach.

If some twatish journalist says something crass to offend Meghan, balance that out against all the official and government sanctioned welcoming which came her way.

If the Royal Family were racist, wouldn't they have talked malleable Harry out of marrying Meghan, before it reached the stage that they'd have to be living alongside her and welcoming her offspring? If they are that hard and determined to have their way in a disgusting fashion, and they are racist,, then I genuinely believe there would have been no wedding. That is obvious to anyone.

Don't read them then

In saying 'twatish' journalist, I'm taking it on what has been claimed. I'm speaking hypothetically. Myself, I've never seen any racist reporting on Meghan in the press. I think most journalists would be angry to be accused of that, as they hold themselves to industry standards.

You're right @Diverseopinions , and Charles went to such lengths to make the ceremony inclusive, with the gospel choir, African American preacher and Black cellist.
Why did Meghan have all the flowers of the Commonwealth embroidered on her veil? Why call the daughter Lilibet?
It doesn't add up.

How many more threads about this? I have clicked on this as I am fascinated by how obsessed people seem to be with despising these people. What is it that makes all these judgemental posters so sure they are better than H&M? Why don't the posters spend their time doing something more valuable too? That goes for me too of course!

Stories sell - negative and positive. Journalism isn't about facts or truths most of the time - it is about getting engagement and views and shares and follows and subscribes and likes. If the general public view is negative, that can be as successful news wise and often more so than a positive view. People talk more about things and people and events they don't like than those they do.

And most people don't look into the details and so journalism gets away with a lot of liberties. They use other footage, they mix clips, the use voiceovers, they edit footage and words out of context to mean something completely different.
While a few people will talk a lot about how the press rushing towards them is actually at a Katie Price court date and has nothing to do with H and M. The vast majority will see that as persuasive footage (pos or neg) and think it adds to the story being told.

@Diverseopinions

If the Royal Family were racist, wouldn't they have talked malleable Harry out of marrying Meghan, before it reached the stage that they'd have to be living alongside her and welcoming her offspring? If they are that hard and determined to have their way in a disgusting fashion, and they are racist,, then I genuinely believe there would have been no wedding. That is obvious to anyone.

Actually it works both ways. I was always very on guard with my partners family if they were of a different ethnic origin, particularly coming from a mixed race family and seeing how much my parents had to struggle with comments. I struggle to understand how anyone couldn't have known they were marrying into a racist family if they had an acute awareness of racism.

This!!! Used to read these threads to have a chuckle but sadly it's like a competition now to start yet another thread (usually uncomplimentary) on H&M. Sadly there also seems to be a competition to see who can be the most outrageous in their condemnation, the most insulting about people they don't know and more than likely will never meet. The thinly veiled racism from some is nasty and insidious.
Do some really engage like this in their day to day living, their homes and workplace? Rant, rave and bully. There are some who pop up on almost all these threads being nasty and respond numerous times on each thread. Why are they .so invested and where do they find the time? I have come to respect those who try and bring some balance but they are drowned out. I lolled today at @MrsMaxDeWinter thread @mrsdewinter

I'm not obsessed with Harry and Meghan and I don't despise them either. That's an enormously patronising take on some of the discussions which have been had on Mumsnet about the split in the royal family in recent years.

I've looked back and I've been on fewer than 5 threads about H&M. I'm not obsessed at all. It's an interesting thing - the whole picture - not just whether people "like Meghan" or not.

But surely wondering what skin tone a baby would have is no different to asking what colour hair they would have. I was asked this and wondered if myself and chose not to be offended

The irony of starting a thread on this

This!!!!

I just don't understand why people have so much hatred for them. Some people seem to take every little thing they do personally. It's bizarre. They have not committed Guy Fawkes type of treason but some people seem to want them exiled or executed as if they had! All they did was share their lived experience.

I'd believe it's possible that an older RF would have been more concerned than curious about it.

That said even if that's the case I'm dubious as to whether it's the big awful thing it's been made out to be. I don't know why there's not a level of understanding for the fact it's not easy for people to make a shift in their thinking.

I think that they are right the Royal family are racist not Hitler level of hate but I can imagine them turning their noses up at different traditions. They are a very white 'upperclass' institution and have upheld some ancient traditions. Harry marrying a biracial woman would have ruffled some feathers. Just thinking of their faces when they had the black pastor at H&M's wedding. I can believe that they might have said something about what the baby would look like absolutely. They did accept her but I can see how she may not have fit in.

However, I do think these interviews are of poor taste particularly after his grandfather passed away and his grandmother was grieving and so frail. It does seem quite disrespectful after the queen's passing.

You’re confused when Meghan speaks? Every time? You struggle to understand what she’s saying?

How extraordinary.

Would it not be best to simply stop listening if you’re struggling so much with comprehension? There’s little to be gained if you’re truly unable to follow it, surely.

Agree. My elderly mother is not a ‘racist’, yet I’ve heard her make comments that are unacceptable in today’s world.
It’s like the palace woman who was forced to resign recently over her questions about someone’s heritage. I don’t deny that her line of questioning was deeply unpleasant. But I believe it stemmed from ignorance rather than racism.

I recently asked my 13-year old daughter where her friend’s Asian parents came from and she told me my question was racist. They had accents and it was clear English was their second language - I was merely curious. In the same way I’d be curious about an Italian accent or an Australian one. It’s sad that someone shouldn’t take pride in their heritage.

Going off piste here but I don’t believe Meghan was the victim of racism within the family. Nothing malicious or abusive anyway, more likely it came from a place of ignorance. She chose to be offended.

I used to get offended by people asking where I was from but I was dealing with a lot of racist trauma that made me feel that they were marginalising me. I learned to suss out when they were and when they weren't.

I ask people that question nowadays when I'm curious and I get asked it too.

I think what is or what isn't racism has become a very grey area and people are very concerned about being labelled and currently overcorrecting as in the case of your daughter. It's a confusing time for everyone (except for the pious people that seem to think they've educated themselves and are telling everyone what to do)

I don't know what Meghan experienced personally, but she's certainly not connecting with me and come across as insincere.

I love that they're turning royalty on its head, especially in light of the many paedophile links in the family
I'm sad how the hatred of them has exposed so many hatefilled people including good friends of mine.
Really shows a spiteful compassionless side to our society and I am looking forward to watching the show

@BeechOak

It’s like the palace woman who was forced to resign recently over her questions about someone’s heritage. I don’t deny that her line of questioning was deeply unpleasant. But I believe it stemmed from ignorance rather than racism.

I don't agree. I think it was racism, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it's a big bad thing and that she's some big bad racist. Unfortunately because it can't just be called out without demonsing someone then we end up with a big division of people who are entrenched in their views and feel they have to say ooh this is racism or that is racism rather than focusing on the issue which is why someone has offended someone else and finding a way to correct it.

The point is that they need to make a living somehow.

Don't overthink it.

yes it’s all very strange and who on earth do they think they are to tell H&M they did not experience racism from the RF? Even after we’ve seen a glimpse of it in the whole “where are you really from” incident and the fact at the time of the Oprah interview no-one from the RF denied certain things were said eg. The comment about the skin colour of M’s child.

The British tabloid press is definitely racist but they are working in H&M’s favour because of all this is free publicity.