Films you see differently as an adult...

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I presume this has been done before but fuck it, it's Saturday night and I'm bored. So I'll start...

Mrs Doubtfire. As a child I saw Miranda as a boring, stuck up cow. As an adult I see her as a successful, independent woman exasperated with her man child husband who gives me The Ultimate Ick. And then some. I'm gobsmacked she ever married him. Stuart was a capable, equal partner not the villain I once thought him to be. Anyone else?

Grease- has not aged well

The other thing about Grease is even as an enthusiastic, slightly naive teen I knew Stockard Channing-amongst others- was about 40 playing a teenager

Yeah @lurchermummy @Lopilo I replied earlier that I stand corrected. Thanks again

Oh. I find that quite worrying.

I often think about Rita, Sue and Bob too. A Dad taking turns to shag the two teenage schoolgirls in his car.

16 candles did make me think wtf when I rewatched it with teen dd. There’s the racism and the scene where the drunk unconscious girl is passed over to geek to have fun as she won’t know. Everyone just remembers the birthday cake candle kissing ending.

I like officer and a gentleman. However i grew up in a town like the one in the film and the aspiration was very much marry an officer . And that's why it leaves a bad taste i my mouth.

Meredith wanted his money and was going to put his daughter into boarding school.

But non of the characters come across in a good light.

@sueelleker Really? Well, happy to be corrected thank you.
In my memory Grease 2 was always my favourite as I preferred the leads, but I may have to rethink!

Labyrinth when he sings the song about “ the babe”
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She does say that though - 'I could flirt with all the guys, smile at them and bat my eyes, press against them when we dance, make them think they stand a chance, then refuse to see it through - that's something I never do'

She's saying that refusing a man sex after flirting with them is one of the 'worse things she could d'o (as opposed to shagging them!).

Top Gun. As a kid I thought Maverick was fantastic and Iceman was a bully. Watching it now Iceman is concerned for everyone's safety and Maverick is a twat!

Breakfast Club. Seem to remember the under-the-table scene being hilarious as a kid. Watched it with DD when she was a teen and I was like oh.

Grease. I can't believe nobody has mentioned "did she put up a fight" yet!

Ferris Bueller. Yep, rewatching as an adult Ferris is a nasty bully.

Fatal Attraction. We're supposed to feel sorry for Dan? He should have kept it in his pants!

As somebody up thread said, Danny changed for sandy too, he tried out loads of different sports and became a jock, getting his letterman jacket for track. People always seem to ignore that part, it’s like they’re determined to be offended. I agree the drive in part is creepy as an adult though.

Yes, but in the end, he throws off his cardie and goes back to being a T-Bird but she stays as her 'new' self.

The whole storyline is odd, but it seems I'm the only one who noticed. He bloody kidnaps a baby and lures a girl into a labyrinth, punishes her constantly then drugs her via a peach. Plus those tights......

American Pie has aged badly. Very letchy and a bit sexist.

I loved the film and stage version Oliver as a child. I learned the songs at school and performed in a community theatre production. I couldn't wait to enjoy with DCs but, my word, the themes! Child abuse and exploitation, domestic violence, gangs, theft, alcoholism and murder. Can't believe we we were singing along to this at school!

All of that Rizzo song is a response to being seen as easy - she is trying to flip the criticism she feels by saying "well wouldn't it be worse if I.." It's a really sad song. In musicals especially the songs denote characters, they can't all sing nice songs u less everyone in the show is a nice character!

I love that film!
How did she pick the wrong guy though, I'm having to disagree there?!
If she'd have gone with Mr New York, she'd have married into a goldfish bowl with all attention on you, and had the toxic mother in law from hell! 😁
She wasn't even herself around him, he didn't know the real her.
Instead she gets her school boyfriend soulmate 🙂
Anyways lol mine would have to be Dirty Dancing.
Watching as an adult I'm totally on Baby's Dad's side, she was like what, 16? and sneaking out with the older dance tutor and hanging out at parties on a night with older more adults like.
Plus he must have been scared for her when he attended to Penny's abortion and thought it was Johnny who had put her in that position and then fucked off.
As a teen and not a parent it all seems so much more romantic lol

I watched Gilmore girls several times. As a teenager I loved Rory, in my twenties I thought Lorai was right about everything but now that I'm middle aged I'm team Emily all the way. She takes her responsibility paying for expensive schools (which is actually Lorelais job) and the only thing she wants in return is one little dinner a week that she provides herself. She tries to get Rory in with a crowd that can help her social status and career and tries to matchmake her to a wealthy man with some standing so her future will be easier financially. Sure, she goes about some things the wrong way but at least SHE's the one that's trying to give Rory a good future. Being poor is pretty miserable, and having intelligent friends is nice too. Her proposed life wouldn't have been so bad.

Have covered this on another thread but Dead Poets Society.

I loved this to bits at 20 when it first came out. Second time round when it turned up on telly, I couldn’t help noticing the general invisibility of women and the way girls were treated like contraband goods when they did turn up. Third time round, I was even more critical. WTAF was Mr Keating doing encouraging his pupils to rip up school property? I don’t see him as blameless in Neil’s death either; he should have taken a great deal more care in handling the parents’ aspirations for their son, among other things.

Given the sexist undertones of the film, I mentally flipped the sexes to see what the plot would look like in a girls’ school. The result bore a strong resemblance to The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie, a much more emotionally complex film.

I think these threads are fun but 1) no stories can be written about good moral people who do good moral things - they would be boring and 2) you're not supposed to watch films you enjoy as a kid when you're an adult.

Dirty Dancing - I think the reason 1980s girls loved it is that it's about a good nerdy academic girl who experiences sexual passion. Nerdy girls aren't supposed to be like that! We're supposed to read books and go out with bespectacled maths nerds - not want to grind with hunky dancers. When Baby's dad looks at her and realises she is just as sexual as her shallow sister, it's profound.

We are looking at it through a 2020s lens when young women are sexualised constantly but in the 1950s / 60s there was a different pressure - to be ornaments but to stay virgins and not have any desires of their own, to subjugate their own needs and to police the horny guys around them. Dirty Dancing and Grease are about young women who reject that. There are worse things I could do is about a woman who is told constantly that good girls don't want sex and it's down to her to ensure that never happens regardless of what the man does. Rizzo is saying why does having sex make her a less worthy woman than women who do everything but.

No, she mentions at the beginning something about recently being 16 so I think she'd just turned 17. Johnny was well into his 20s.

Completely agree - also can’t help but sympathise with Tritan just trying to take care of all his daughters, one of whom seems intent on throwing herself into dangerous situations.

Yes@Babochan88 my sympathies are more with Meredith nowadays. It's also glossed over what an awful thing the parents did.

Officer and a Gentleman. Agree with @Sarahcoggles that she'd have been better to tell him to get lost. Same with Pretty Woman, and not the sort of man you'd want to be with (small point in all that's wrong with PW).

I never thought about it like this before but you’re totally right.