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Eton College apologises after allegations pupils jeered visiting state schoolgirls

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sunnydaytoday0 · 18/11/2022 20:55

If true, why has no one been expelled?

www.theguardian.com/education/2022/nov/18/eton-college-apologises-after-allegations-pupils-jeered-visiting-state-schoolgirls

Private school sanctions a number of boys after investigation into misogynistic language and racial slurs.

Eton College has apologised and “sanctioned” a number of pupils after allegations that a group of girls visiting from a nearby state school were subjected to misogynistic language, racial slurs and jeering.

The boys’ private school near Windsor, Berkshire, told the BBC that an investigation took place into the incident which occurred during a speech by Nigel Farage last week.

A person, who said they were a parent of one of the girls who attended the speech, wrote on social media anonymously that the students were booed inside the lecture theatre and were subjected to “racial slurs” and “generally misogynistic comments”. They said of the private school pupils: “Their behaviour was awful.”
The poster also said that Eton boys had cheered Farage’s “worst comments on migrants and Covid”.

The college told the BBC it had apologised “unreservedly” for the “totally unacceptable” behaviour.

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TheaBrandt · 19/11/2022 07:43

a friend used to have school swimming lessons at the pool at Marlborough years ago and the public school boys would spit on them.

TheaBrandt · 19/11/2022 07:47

The sooner the privilege / stranglehold of these ridiculous schools is diminished the better. Genuinely think it’s happening with university entrance etc. Push off you’ve had your turn and utterly cocked everything up - it’s time for the bright genuinely talented state educated to take over the country.

mrBanks · 19/11/2022 07:58

Good manners can hide a whole lot of disgusting beliefs and behaviours. One of the worst humans I have met had the most charming manners.

Peteryougit · 19/11/2022 07:59

TheaBrandt · 19/11/2022 07:47

The sooner the privilege / stranglehold of these ridiculous schools is diminished the better. Genuinely think it’s happening with university entrance etc. Push off you’ve had your turn and utterly cocked everything up - it’s time for the bright genuinely talented state educated to take over the country.

That’s the thing though isn’t it. I don’t think people realise that going to these schools has nothing to do with intelligence. They don’t get into these places because they are bright.

And it’s not about academic achievement anyway. It’s about who you know.

But still, people I know go on about how you have to be very intelligent to get into public school
and it’s just not true.

itsgettingweird · 19/11/2022 08:09

I've told this before.

I worked for a sports company offering residential holidays for children.

I had a group of Etonians one year (friends of PH and his year group).

They misogyny and sexually explicit language from a 15yo boy to me a 19yo woman was unbelievable. However I reported it to the company and he was told to leave. His dads chauffeur came to collect him.

The others in the group didn't join in but didn't stand up for me but 2 of the group did tell him to cut it out whilst laughing.

Eton also offers lucrative scholarships to highly academic students from WC backgrounds from all around the country. They can do this due to charitable status.

If this charitable status showed any indication it was changing the underlying ethos of a white boys club that seeps through the veins of this and similar schools I'd be all for it remaining.

But it doesn't and that's why I agree it's dangerous to allow it to remain. It's being used as a tool to say "look at us. Look what we do and offer". Basically a look over here nod rather than a true ethos.

Johnson learnt that extremely well and tried it continuously.

itsgettingweird · 19/11/2022 08:11

mrBanks · 19/11/2022 07:58

Good manners can hide a whole lot of disgusting beliefs and behaviours. One of the worst humans I have met had the most charming manners.

Well said.

How many times do we hear abused woman say no one has a clue or would believe them as he's an absolute charmer to the outside world.

user1471462428 · 19/11/2022 08:34

God this country needs a revolution.

TheaBrandt · 19/11/2022 08:37

Our local superstar got a scholarship there for 6th form. Handsome sporty top of his (state) school confident. Parents teachers at state school so not a wealthy family. He lasted a term.

AffIt · 19/11/2022 08:44

I have a (genuinely brilliant) cousin who briefly attended Eton on a full scholarship about 15 years ago. I suppose his background - Scottish, lower middle-class, state-educated - ticked some diversity boxes.

Anyway, he lasted two terms before asking to leave - he called it 'a poisonous place'.

Went back to his local state school, then got a place at and graduated from Cambridge. He said the worst thing about Cambridge was bumping into people he had known at Eton and realising they were still hideous.

PickleBottom · 19/11/2022 08:47

Not surprising at all. The level of entitlement of some public school boys is discusting. I lived in Harrow as a teenager and the boys from Harrow School would throw things at us from the window as we walked past and shout how poor we were. Some sexist comments too. There was lots of racism directed towards the local shopkeepers too.

walkinginsunshinekat · 19/11/2022 08:48

It’s not like Farage is a member of the National front

His poster around the time of brexit, that the UK is at breaking point, was stolen from the Nazi party from the 1930s.

He has done more to foster racial hatred & division than any politician this country has ever produced.

Glad Labour have stuck their neck out and will remove VAT exemption from private schools, that 2 billion can be used elsewhere.

TheaBrandt · 19/11/2022 08:51

Dh went to Cambridge from a state school a minority of the men who were from
these schools were vile abhorrent snobs. His friends from his course all women as they were lovely! There were lots of other lovely men too but the public school clique definitely needs to be broken up.

MrsClatterbuck · 19/11/2022 08:51

Reading this I wonder will William and Kate send George and Louis to Eton

TheaBrandt · 19/11/2022 08:53

Yeah I’d bin them too. All part of the same toxic mix.

Roomytrouser · 19/11/2022 08:54

I’d assumed that, with it’s reputation, the wealthy from around the world would send their kids to Eton. If that’s right, I’d have expected a degree of diversity in the schools intake and if that’s the case, I wonder what attending the school is like for those who are not white/from the UK.

The charity status thing is pathetic. Where I live 25% of kids to private and I’d say losing those kids (with presumably better resourced parents) from the state system has a negative impact on the local state schools so I rolled my eyes with JH suggested that 90,000 kids going back into the state system would be a bad thing.

My friend once had a very posh fiancée (lived in castle, title). What a dick. Another friend and I were invited to his castle to meet him. It felt like he was sitting observing the three of us rather than being a proper participant in the conversation and afterwards told my friend (his fiancée) that we (other friend and I) weren’t “their” sort of people. She eventually dumped him, feeling he was wanted to make her a “Camilla with pearls” which she definitely was not.

I have a friend who works in a private school which I’d guess is viewed as the tier below Eton (you’ll have heard of it) and have met several of the teaching staff in social settings. They say there obviously a range of behaviour and attitudes from the kids but overall speak very highly of them. This is someone in previous roles who has worked with a lot of different people, sometimes in difficult circumstances, and isn’t know to mince their words. It’s co-ed though, wonder if that makes a difference.

I went to a university that has a large posh intake and used to work in the commercial property sector which is also popular amongst the posh and most people seemed perfectly pleasant. At uni the posh did seem to stick together but similar backgrounds will lead to having more in common I suppose. I got the impression lot of people seemed to know of other people to seek out before they go there (“x’s cousin who went to Marlborough will here there, look her up”).

dementedma · 19/11/2022 08:59

People send their sons to Eton and Harrow for the connections they make, not the education. There are many many high earning,highly succesful people who achieved success via the state system.

fUNNYfACE36 · 19/11/2022 09:01

walkersareback · 18/11/2022 23:04

@Livelovebehappy By inviting NF to speak you legitimise his views. It doesn't matter that the pupils will see him in the media etc if he's considered important enough to invite him to speak it's as if he is someone who SHOULD be listened to.

Is it any wonder these boys behaved in such a disgusting manner if this is the level of disgusting speakers they are presented with.

Firstly Farage is not the national Front. He is a mainstream politician.secondly he was called allsorts because he raised the issue of dinghies in the channel long before anyone else. Now everyone is talking about it!
Thirdly nonplatforrming is much more dangerous than any speaker

walkinginsunshinekat · 19/11/2022 09:09

fUNNYfACE36 · 19/11/2022 09:01

Firstly Farage is not the national Front. He is a mainstream politician.secondly he was called allsorts because he raised the issue of dinghies in the channel long before anyone else. Now everyone is talking about it!
Thirdly nonplatforrming is much more dangerous than any speaker

If it wasn't for him, there wouldn't be Dinghies in the Channel, before Brexit, it just never happened because economic migrants knew they could be sent back to France under the Dublin convention.

He isn't "mainstream" he tried 5 times to become an MP and his party never directly won a seat - he is fringe and dangerous with it.

Totally unsuitable to be speaking to children, no wonder the schools pupils behave as they do with such poor leadership that NF is considered suitable.

Our school used to have former pupils come and talk to the children, people who had done very well since leaving the school (State Comp) not racists.

fUNNYfACE36 · 19/11/2022 09:10

PaulaTrilloe · 19/11/2022 01:37

Something very similar happened with female state school educated students at Durham University.

Sounds awful. Eton did expel some students in Cameron's cohort in the early 1980s but they were on full scholarships and took the fall for the privileged ones who were equally to blame.

I was just going to bring up Durham University. My dd is a,student there and has encountered a fair bit of intimidating behaviour fir example a group of lads trying to smash in her bedroom door, in their words 'rag' her.

Roussette · 19/11/2022 09:11

fUNNYfACE36 · 19/11/2022 09:01

Firstly Farage is not the national Front. He is a mainstream politician.secondly he was called allsorts because he raised the issue of dinghies in the channel long before anyone else. Now everyone is talking about it!
Thirdly nonplatforrming is much more dangerous than any speaker

Sorry, what?

He is NOT a mainstream politician and has never been elected anywhere. Do not elevated him to this position.

He is a divisive bigoted racist who lies and had caused a lot of damage to this country

Fleurdaisy · 19/11/2022 09:18

The school won’t expel them because the have to suck up to the parents. Also it’s the behaviour the school expects. The boys are taught to be elitist and entitled.

wigywhoo · 19/11/2022 09:28

Fleurdaisy · 19/11/2022 09:18

The school won’t expel them because the have to suck up to the parents. Also it’s the behaviour the school expects. The boys are taught to be elitist and entitled.

Sigh.

This is appalling behaviour, incredibly bad form and it's annoying that Eton is everyone's private school yardstick. My DS's school would throw the book at them - and I can't imagine it happening in the first place.

Secondly- nothing wrong with inviting Farage, he was an MEP, Party Leader and effected great change. You don't have to agree with that change or him.

I don't think much of Corbyn and his anti-semitism but I wouldn't want him stopped from speaking in my sons school, I would expect tough questions for him, just as I would Farage.

wigywhoo · 19/11/2022 09:29

@Roussette calm down! He won many elections!

wigywhoo · 19/11/2022 09:32

walkinginsunshinekat · 19/11/2022 08:48

It’s not like Farage is a member of the National front

His poster around the time of brexit, that the UK is at breaking point, was stolen from the Nazi party from the 1930s.

He has done more to foster racial hatred & division than any politician this country has ever produced.

Glad Labour have stuck their neck out and will remove VAT exemption from private schools, that 2 billion can be used elsewhere.

That 2billion will be needed to educate children from minor private schools who then move to your DSs school

Hillcrest2022 · 19/11/2022 09:32

@wigywhoo Rosette's post was perfectly calm, what are you reading? Maybe try to engage with her valid point rather that try to silence her.

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