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Is weed really good for autism????

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Mupett · 15/11/2022 09:45

So we have all seen the videos of kids and adults using cannabis in one form or another to deal with autism etc and I for one was convinced it would help my soni thought this it it the holy grail as I have and do see a lot of positives.BUT AND HERE IS THE BUT...I have first hand seen my sons dad who isn't diagnosed but deff has either and/or aspbergers schizophrenia we are not together anymore but he smoked A LOT of dope and all I saw was him having psychotic outbreaks and also a friend from college days had aspbergers and shee took drugs and all I saw was her having breakdowns etc and then another friend of mine she has aspberegrs and she smokes weed constantly and all I ever here from her is one psychotic or deluded breakdown after the other...so I'm really torn about how I feel about weed to help autism.. any thoughts? I could be missing the fact that there is a difference between weed on the street and the weed that is formulated into something different ie am talking about the legal stuff in country's where the have actual qualified doctors and its some type of oil etc..I mean maybe there is something in the processing of it and it is complicated as there are proffessors working on It Israel etc.

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bluelavender · 15/11/2022 12:09

We don't know enough about the impact of cannabis on a developing brain and we definitely don't know enough about whether it is therapeutic or increases risk factors for adolescents with ASD. If you are buying it from a non legal source, you also won't know the strength.

Mupett · 15/11/2022 12:13

Nah don't worry am not irresponsible like that and I love my son dearly..it is just out of desperation to help when you see someone suffering that much as am sure many have felt and do feel the same. I am planning more to leave country and go where its being dealt with properly by a medical professional etc.

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JesusInTheCabbageVan · 15/11/2022 13:59

I just cannot understand why you're obsessed with cannabis in particular, rather than the various other experimental autism treatments and research out there? Particularly given that you have first hand experience of the harm it can cause, and most of the people on this thread have advised you against it.

I suspect you've been seduced by some algorithm on YouTube or TikTok which is now feeding you endless videos about cannabis.

JesusInTheCabbageVan · 15/11/2022 14:11

For example, in UK alone:

www.thinkingautism.org.uk/autism-research-science/autism-clinical-trials/

It even has one with CBD, which is not the same as cannabis but may satisfy you.

ODFOx · 15/11/2022 14:22

I think there is some confusion here between CBD and cannabis.
The THC component of cannabis may lead to mental health problems and can be particularly problematic for those with ASD.
CBD has less overt CNS symptoms but is good for pain relief and I believe has been shown to moderate obsessive behaviours. Is that what you are thinking of OP?

Mupett · 15/11/2022 17:26

Yes thanks I appreciate your response. That's why I haven't given it him as I have seen first hand and am as we speak dealing with a friend who has asd that is totally messed up on weed ie always having psychotic and suicidal episodes so yes I do know. Wouldn't say I've been seduced it's nose the professional and scientific stuff recently as I said Israel seriously studying it and it's properties it's all above board as well.. I am interested in the country's in America that legaly prescribe it by a proper doctor ie its not weedbas you know it in the street it's a different derivative and different in lots of ways..but still even then I am not 100% won over as like some very wise people on here suggest the pathways in the brain and chemistry is different in different people etc ..so it's tentative steps. Problem I have like many is that alcohol is big problem in uk as is used to self medicate as a lotnof people with autism will tell you a lot of the conventional drugs do not work. My son basically will drink to destruction if allowed so we have to live out in middle of nowhere he is not allowed to buy alcohol in even our smallest and only shop..he has to be watched and supervised so he doesn't buy alcohol when out in the big city. He does need something as he does suffer and usual drugs from docs do not work so was why I am interested in people using cannabis to treat it medically as thus has to be better than drinking yourself to death as it has been used successfully legal in some drying out clinics to get people of the addiction to alcohol. Sorry long reply.Basicaly when you see genuine informed and intelligent and loving parents giving there children the medical cannabis where it's legal you KNOW its because it probably is the right things to do.

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Siriusmuggle · 15/11/2022 17:45

Based on the experience of a family member, no. Autism + weed = psychosis for them. Then heroin addiction, mental illness and ultimately suicide before reaching their 40s.

FarFromTheStart · 15/11/2022 17:57

Siriusmuggle · 15/11/2022 17:45

Based on the experience of a family member, no. Autism + weed = psychosis for them. Then heroin addiction, mental illness and ultimately suicide before reaching their 40s.

Sadly, though, the OP will only listen to the anecdotes which support her starting point of view and seems determined to take her poor child abroad to give him insufficiently tested drugs.

I hope his father makes sure that this doesn’t happen. It’s abhorrent.

Siriusmuggle · 15/11/2022 18:00

FarFromTheStart · 15/11/2022 17:57

Sadly, though, the OP will only listen to the anecdotes which support her starting point of view and seems determined to take her poor child abroad to give him insufficiently tested drugs.

I hope his father makes sure that this doesn’t happen. It’s abhorrent.

That’s awful. Why would you do that to your child?

Mupett · 15/11/2022 18:04

Yes Thank-you.

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RedToothBrush · 15/11/2022 18:05

MephistophelesApprentice · 15/11/2022 10:12

Hi, Asperger's sufferer here. I was on the verge of killing myself just before the 3rd year of uni. Horrifically lonely, terrified of the future, failing academically. I'd tried weed before, but literally just a toke here and there.

Once I'd decided to kill myself, I thought "f*ck it, no future to care about, why not have a week just getting high like I've seen on TV?" Bought my first bag, rolled my first enormously shitty joint. Smoked every day for a week.

I just didn't stop, after that. My grades radically improved. I was able to seek support from my university. People weren't terrifying any more. A few months later I had my first girlfriend and lost my virginity. I slept for more than four hours a night. I've now had a succession of meaningful relationships, worked my way upwards in my job. I've cut back a little on the weed, but that's because I'm so much happier.

I've had friends who started weed way too early, they sound like your mates. I didn't try any until I was 18 and I was 20 before I went to a daily dose. It didn't just help me survive, it allowed me to live.

My advice would be: keep doses low, just enough for a comfortable head tingle, not enough for a wobble. Make sure it's blended with other activities, such as a part of a nice stroll. Keep moving, don't let it become a sofa anchor. Dried fruit and/or nuts for the munchies. Use a herbal vape to minimise lung stress. Sativa over indica, if given the option. Don't do it before work or in a lunch break, but it's a lovely treat for a commute home.

Anecdotes do not make good science.

On that note, you have three issues here.

Firstly, there isn't reputable research into this. Otherwise there would be nice guidelines for it. Or at least a campaign for the treatment.

Second, if you decide to go DIY you are opening yourself up to a vulnerable situation around associating with criminals. That puts your safety at risk of getting involved with dealing - thats violence and getting a record.

Thirdly, you can not guarentee that what you are getting isn't cut with god knows what which might do you harm, even if the weed doesn't. How are you going to make sure you aren't getting something more sinister like spice?

Bloody stupid idea to dabble with.

FarFromTheStart · 15/11/2022 18:06

Siriusmuggle · 15/11/2022 18:00

That’s awful. Why would you do that to your child?

I suppose it’s similar to Suzy green taking her son to Thailand to be castrated for his sixteenth birthday, a mixture of ignorance, refusal to consider the facts, and a problematic ideology.

Mupett · 15/11/2022 18:06

Urghh did you not read all my replies I have in fact been agreeing with bothe I just said I have seen the damage and no I dont smoke weed..I am.currently helping a friend with asd who is having psychotic episode due to weed..have you not read???

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FarFromTheStart · 15/11/2022 18:09

Mupett · 15/11/2022 18:06

Urghh did you not read all my replies I have in fact been agreeing with bothe I just said I have seen the damage and no I dont smoke weed..I am.currently helping a friend with asd who is having psychotic episode due to weed..have you not read???

And yet you are absolutely determined to pretend that there is science behind your decision to drug your child (there isn’t) and are considering taking them abroad to escape the safeguarding that he is legally entitled to here.

The parallels with Susie Green are absolutely clear. She wanted the best for her son too, and took him abroad for treatment that was illegal in the UK. Do you at least accept the similarities with what you want to do?

She thought the science agreed with her too.

JesusInTheCabbageVan · 15/11/2022 18:10

Basicaly when you see genuine informed and intelligent and loving parents giving there children the medical cannabis where it's legal you KNOW its because it probably is the right things to do.

You KNOW it's because they genuinely believe it's the right thing to do. Maybe they don't have a whole load of friends and relatives who have been harmed by it? You know, like you do?

JesusInTheCabbageVan · 15/11/2022 18:13

Mupett · 15/11/2022 18:06

Urghh did you not read all my replies I have in fact been agreeing with bothe I just said I have seen the damage and no I dont smoke weed..I am.currently helping a friend with asd who is having psychotic episode due to weed..have you not read???

We have read your replies.

the problem is that you keep going "Yes, yes, yes, all bad, I hear you.... But hey, maybe it's a miracle cure? It probably is, because other countries!"

IDontWantToBeAPie · 15/11/2022 21:45

Tbh it depends on the person. I've tried weed multiple times and every time I do I immediately pass out unconscious. Even after one tiny toke. Clearly something in it doesn't work with me physiologically.

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