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Star555 · 04/11/2022 16:20

What's the situation like right now? I'm hearing that employees have been locked out and are waiting for an email telling them whether they can stay or must go. Half the staff are expected to be fired -- can't believe it!

(I don't work for Twitter or personally know anyone who does.)

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Star555 · 04/11/2022 16:26

And I'm not a journalist, in case anyone was wondering. Simply a curious woman who has been reading the news. 🙂

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reigatecastle · 04/11/2022 17:38

I was also wondering about this - hopefully they'll all find new jobs soon.

KnickerlessParsons · 04/11/2022 17:43

I'm surprised they can do that in the U.K. we have strict laws around the redundancy process, unlike the USA.

spidersenses · 04/11/2022 17:44

Was just reading about this on my LinkedIn feed from someone who was one of the unlucky Twitter employees. They were locked out then got the news they had lost their job. What a stressful way to find that out.

Star555 · 04/11/2022 18:36

spidersenses · 04/11/2022 17:44

Was just reading about this on my LinkedIn feed from someone who was one of the unlucky Twitter employees. They were locked out then got the news they had lost their job. What a stressful way to find that out.

What was their job at Twitter? (Broad area only, e.g. software, marketing, media, etc.)

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Homewardbound2022 · 04/11/2022 18:40

They've all been paid up to February. Still, it's horrible treatment.

Star555 · 04/11/2022 19:47

Homewardbound2022 · 04/11/2022 18:40

They've all been paid up to February. Still, it's horrible treatment.

Does that mean those laid-off employees will stop doing work for Twitter (since they are locked out and their computers have reportedly been wiped), but Twitter will continue to pay their normal salary until 2 February 2023 (BBC reports), presumably giving them the intervening months to look for a new job? If they are expected to still work for Twitter until Feb, that would be inhumane.

Given that this time period coincides with the Christmas/New Year holidays when many employees were probably planning to be away from work and spend time with family, this is terrible! They will have to scrap their holiday plans and spend their holidays job-hunting instead.

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TheSnugglyDuckling · 04/11/2022 20:30

Even if they’ve been paid until Feb I think it’s still unlawful with regards to Twitter’s UK employees both in terms of UK redundancy laws and also TUPE (where a business is sold).

Whadda · 04/11/2022 20:36

TheSnugglyDuckling · 04/11/2022 20:30

Even if they’ve been paid until Feb I think it’s still unlawful with regards to Twitter’s UK employees both in terms of UK redundancy laws and also TUPE (where a business is sold).

TUPE won’t apply here as no work/people has/have been transferred to a different entity.

I think this will be an expensive move for Musk, but ultimately one that’s cost saving. I think he’s based in California which is a hire at will state so no employment protection, whereas what he’s doing in Europe will amount to redundancies and associated costs.

Brendabigbaps · 04/11/2022 20:39

Star555 · 04/11/2022 19:47

Does that mean those laid-off employees will stop doing work for Twitter (since they are locked out and their computers have reportedly been wiped), but Twitter will continue to pay their normal salary until 2 February 2023 (BBC reports), presumably giving them the intervening months to look for a new job? If they are expected to still work for Twitter until Feb, that would be inhumane.

Given that this time period coincides with the Christmas/New Year holidays when many employees were probably planning to be away from work and spend time with family, this is terrible! They will have to scrap their holiday plans and spend their holidays job-hunting instead.

You do realise that Christmas / new year is only a week don’t you!
they still have 14 weeks paid leave to fund another job! 🙄

PeaTea · 04/11/2022 20:49

I think this is quite normal in the tech sector. At my company, I know some people that were locked out whilst being made redundant (on phone). You then have no access to your laptop or emails etc. your laptop is wiped.

trouble is, staff could do quite a lot of damage if they stayed! So they need to be gone quickly. They are payed in accordance to their contract.

balalake · 04/11/2022 20:50

I think one small change that should be made to redundancy laws is that you should have to be told in person, maybe a phone call at a push in limited defined circumstances. An email or text message to inform you should not be allowed to be serving notice of redundancy.

pompomdaisy · 04/11/2022 20:51

They work in tech. There's lots of other high paid jobs. I feel more sorry for young people stuck on zero hour contracts tbh!

lightand · 04/11/2022 20:53

pompomdaisy · 04/11/2022 20:51

They work in tech. There's lots of other high paid jobs. I feel more sorry for young people stuck on zero hour contracts tbh!

So do I.
They did know what was going to happen. And when.

lightand · 04/11/2022 20:55

The media did it's usual hyping.
"Happened at night"
"Computer wiped"
"Got locked out"
yada yada

SellFridges · 04/11/2022 20:56

I’m not convinced it would be against employment law. It’s not best practice, but nobody has been treated differently (offices closed for all), the affected employees are being given notice of a termination of employment (three months by the sound of it), and they are being paid in accordance with local law (at least).

I’m not defending it, but also not sure there’s many legal implications here.

Star555 · 04/11/2022 20:56

Yes, I realise that most of the tech employees in the US (Silicon Valley) are well-paid and shouldn't have a huge issue getting a new job, but employees in Europe, Asia, etc. have lower salaries and it may not be as easy for them.

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TheOtherBoleynGirls · 04/11/2022 21:00

I’m not sure, isn’t he walking a very fine line with UK employment law? I had a memory than any more than X number of employees you had to go through a redundancy process over here

SellFridges · 04/11/2022 21:06

You’re right, there does need to be a process of over 20 people, but as I understand it, it’s perfectly reasonable to put them on gardening leave while you go through that process.

ExpectingaRainbow · 04/11/2022 21:45

I would imagine UK employees will be offered settlement agreements (waiving rights to any claims) in return for enhanced severance compensation.

redundancy pay is statuary notice (likely 4 weeks) and 1 week pay for every year of service over 2 years (1.5 weeks for over 41s) but capped at £571 per week. Given the min salary at Twitter will likely be over £40k and much higher for most, being paid until feb will be far more generous than any statutory entitlement, most people will sign.

im sure they’ll be some longer serving employees or ones with protected characteristics who legitimately could get more from tribunal and likely those cases will be negotiated and higher severance paid.

TheOtherBoleynGirls · 04/11/2022 22:14

TheOtherBoleynGirls · 04/11/2022 21:00

I’m not sure, isn’t he walking a very fine line with UK employment law? I had a memory than any more than X number of employees you had to go through a redundancy process over here

Ah yes, that makes sense

edwinbear · 04/11/2022 23:05

It’s a brutal way to let people go, especially in the current climate and at this time of year. But I suspect (and hope), the severance packages will reflect that. I work in investment banking, which is similar - albeit when I went through my own redundancy, I was sat at my desk, received a call asking me to go to up to another floor immediately.

I did get a face to face, but was then immediately escorted out of the building, not even allowed to return to my desk to collect my bag (with my phone, house keys, travel pass, purse etc). It was unexpected and a huge shock, but they did give me details of my pay off then and there. I took one look at the number, and said ‘OK, fair enough’ and off I went…..(to get spectacularly drunk with colleagues who had also been let go).

Once I’d calmed down (and sobered up) I did speak to a solicitor, as I had to as part of agreement, who agreed I had a potential tribunal case (I was part time), but the amount they were offering was well above statutory and I’d be unlikely to be awarded much more - with all the expense and stress of a tribunal. Elon might be a bit eccentric, but I’ll bet he’s been well advised on what he can/can’t do today in legal terms. Even if he has morally behaved like an arse.

KnickerlessParsons · 05/11/2022 00:51

SellFridges · 04/11/2022 20:56

I’m not convinced it would be against employment law. It’s not best practice, but nobody has been treated differently (offices closed for all), the affected employees are being given notice of a termination of employment (three months by the sound of it), and they are being paid in accordance with local law (at least).

I’m not defending it, but also not sure there’s many legal implications here.

There is supposed to be a 90 day consultation period, a fair review of who should stay and who should go and then redundancy calculated based on length of employment and according to the company's Ts & Cs.

EmmaAgain22 · 05/11/2022 01:04

TheOtherBoleynGirls · 04/11/2022 21:00

I’m not sure, isn’t he walking a very fine line with UK employment law? I had a memory than any more than X number of employees you had to go through a redundancy process over here

I thought if you were willing to pay some compensation, or gardening leave, you don't have to consult?

i'd much prefer to be let go with three/four months pay as it looks like here, than go through the consultation process.

MichaelFabricantWig · 05/11/2022 01:09

TheOtherBoleynGirls · 04/11/2022 21:00

I’m not sure, isn’t he walking a very fine line with UK employment law? I had a memory than any more than X number of employees you had to go through a redundancy process over here

Didn’t stop P&O Ferries, and EM I’m sure has more money than them.

employers can basically do what they like, as long as they have enough money to pay off the employees claims.