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Hate when authors do this

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thinkponk48 · 02/11/2022 10:48

Don't get characters ages correct. In the book I'm reading a female character has been to university, worked as a teacher for a bit, met married and bought a house with someone and then had a child.

Eventually her son moves abroad for a job and she's an empty nester at 38! So ridiculous should be at least 45.

I know it's a silly thing but it's ruined the book for me

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shinynewapple22 · 02/11/2022 20:16

VickerishAllsort · 02/11/2022 20:02

In every book I've ever read where someone is barefoot they are described as 'padding'. It boils my piss something awful and I have to stifle the impulse to chuck it at the wall.

There was a whole thread about this a couple of days ago !

DrCoconut · 02/11/2022 20:16

@Bideshi I'm with you on the names. I recently read a story which was generally good but had all the characters named very strangely for the setting (Regency England, upper class). I don't know if the author is American or what but it really jarred. I think most of the names technically existed then in places such as Greek mythology but based on my family and social history research I would say they were not at all the norm. Things such as Barbara and Lewis. Almost everyone then was a William/Edward/George or Elizabeth/Mary/Charlotte. Also Americanisms. Another really good story was full of them despite being set across various periods in UK history. I don't remember anyone saying things like elevator, sneakers or airplane when I was younger.

Itstarts · 02/11/2022 20:29

shinynewapple22 · 02/11/2022 20:12

Maths not your strong point @Itstarts ?

Worryingly it is!

Bluevelvetsofa · 02/11/2022 20:30

Fair enough. I’m not au fait with the world of publishing.

latetothefisting · 02/11/2022 20:40

PAFMO · 02/11/2022 11:43

Mine is names.
You'd better watch out if your name is Libby or Cassie that's all I can say.
You're either going to find your best friend is really a hatchet wielding loon who has always loved your husband or you're going to have lemon scented swishy hair and a soap and water complexion and be dead unlucky in love until the handsome and chisel-jawed new CEO/surgeon meets you. He's going to be a mansplaining twat for a while but then fall in love with your quirks.

And Dexter in One Day would NOT have been called Dexter.

And none of the muggles in HP (possible exception being Dudley) would have had their names. Unless Dean Thomas was 45 when he went to Hogwarts obvs.

Huh? Confused about what you mean by HP names? There aren't many muggles even named in the books - Dean wasn't a muggle, he was a wizard? Even if you mean muggleborn, he would have been born 1980-1981. Dean was in the top 40 boys names in the UK throughout the 70s-90s so a completely appropriate name. I was born late 80s and had a Dean in my class.
www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/livebirths/articles/babynamessince1904howhasyoursperformed/2016-09-02
Same with the other muggle characters - vernon and petunia would have been perfectly normal names for people born in the 1950s.

Names can be outliers in almost any direction, and don't always fit with what people incorrectly assume about time periods - e.g. Chloe, Candace, Bernice, Jemima, Lydia, Priscilla all sound quite modern but are thousands of years old.

The most unrealistic naming convention in books/tv/films is there are never any duplicate names. Harry Potter should have been awash with 'Wait is it Harry P or Harry D that's the heir of Slytherin?' 'Are you talking about Gryffindor George or Ravenclaw George?' etc.

jellybe · 02/11/2022 20:41

PAFMO · 02/11/2022 18:41

Going back to Dean- Dean would have been born in the mid-late 60s or at a push early 70s. Not 1986. By then we were well into Daniels and Bens.
That said, I also was at school with a Tilly. (who was born in 1965) But she was one amongst eleventy billion Karens and Dawns.

I was born in 86 and had two Dean's in my small village primary school class.

inlimboland · 02/11/2022 20:41

Sweet Sorrow by David Nicholls had teenagers in the mid/late 1990s with names like Colin and Tracey. Couldn't get past this, it bothered me all the way through the book!

HauntersGonnaHaunt · 02/11/2022 20:45

inlimboland · 02/11/2022 20:41

Sweet Sorrow by David Nicholls had teenagers in the mid/late 1990s with names like Colin and Tracey. Couldn't get past this, it bothered me all the way through the book!

I had a neighbour called Colin. He must have been born around 1995.

FluffyYucca · 02/11/2022 20:49

I would have been a teenager in the mid / late 90s and there were at least three girls called Tracey in my year group.

garlictwist · 02/11/2022 20:51

I recently read a book in which two of the main characters were in their 30s during world war 2 then met up in the modern day.

There were descriptions of them running along beaches etc when in reality they would have been well into their hundreds by this point and probably not capable of that.

It's like the author didn't work out the maths.

inlimboland · 02/11/2022 20:53

Fair enough, I can't remember all the names in the book but they generally jarred and weren't right for the time. My school year was full of Tom, Mark, Ben, Chris, Richard, Matt, Lisa, Catherine, Laura etc (teenager in 90s)

lightisnotwhite · 02/11/2022 21:03

Slightly niche but as a country girl it’s really annoying how many writers can’t write farmers, farm workers or gamekeepers properly. Maybe it doesn’t take from a story if you don’t know but it really jars with me when writers seem to have used Emmerdale as research.

SenecaFallsRedux · 02/11/2022 21:07

Pemba · 02/11/2022 14:09

Yes, editing doesn't seem to be much of a thing nowadays. Agree about 'One Day', there was a detail about Dexter's mother's age - he'd made her too young and the timeline made no sense. Such sloppiness, if you can't be bothered to make your plot and characters believable then why should I be bothered to read your book?

Historical inaccuracies, sorry to say that John Boyne is quite bad for this (like in The Boy in the Striped Pyjamas) although I like some of his stuff, the one about the Catholic priest was good. I suppose as that was set in Ireland in recent decades he was writing about what he knew, so I think that is true principle.

So many American writers attempting historical fiction set in the UK, and they can't be bothered to get the speech patterns and details of everyday life right. I suppose they just don't care, or assume it will be the same as in the USA. I took a sample on my Kindle of a historical/fantasy novel by an American set in Victorian England, the author had racoons running around the English countryside! Sample deleted, it just really annoys me and puts me off everything else they might write.

The reverse is also true. British writers sometimes make mistakes in dialogue with American characters. A common one is using for example "Californian" or "Texan" as an adjective where an American would use the noun form as an adjective. Americans will say "He is a Texan," but they would say "He has a Texas accent."

SenecaFallsRedux · 02/11/2022 21:14

If it's any consolation, the American characters in the BBC Radio adaptations of Agatha Christie always sound like James Cagney. Even the women.

British TV series from the 60-70s are really bad for fake American accents. Almost always too heavy on the rhotic "r" in particular. It no longer seems to be an issue; either better dialogue coaches or more actual American actors available in the UK to play the parts.

BlackAmericanoNoSugar · 02/11/2022 21:15

burnoutbabe · 02/11/2022 19:35

I have been to Alaska on a cruise and lots of salmon was there to spawn and we went and watched bears too in same area, playing around in reserves, trying to get fish in the rivers .

So I think that one is true?

Were you there in January burnoutbabe? I'm fine with all of that happening, but shouldn't it be late spring through to early autumn, not January. It's the time of year that's the issue. And there was no reason that required the story to be set in January, the crime part of the plot could have taken place at anytime of the year.

BetterBeCarefulBoysYouJustMightSetTheWorldOnFire · 02/11/2022 21:21

Haha that's brilliant @thinkponk48 ... I'm that age and that sounds pretty close to my experience of adulthood, I had my eldest at the below average age of 28 when I had been working as a teacher for six years... obviously now, with me aged 38, she's 10! So unless she was some super-prodigy sent off to uni in year 5 (and either my only or youngest kid) it would be pretty hard for me to be an empty-nester. Terrible, glaring error.

burnoutbabe · 02/11/2022 21:22

Sh yes I missed that January aspect (I went. August)

So I suppose it's easily done. I read 5 lines and missed the "obvious' even with someone saying it was odd.

Imagine that as one paragraph in say a 1000 page book!

Ozgirl75 · 02/11/2022 21:31

I always thought the bizarre bit in Harry Potter was that his parents had him and then died in their early 20s, but James Potter had no parents, grandparents, uncles, cousins, basically not a single relative left who could care for his small child. What disaster had befallen the family previously?

AssumingDirectControl · 02/11/2022 21:31

I once read a - traditionally published - book that was so horrendous that I went through the entire thing and noted every single continuity, spelling and grammatical error then sent an email to the publisher listing every one. There was on average 1.8 errors per page. The only thing I remember now was the regular references to Alan Titschmarsh.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 02/11/2022 21:37

PineappleWilson · 02/11/2022 11:56

I love the Fairacre series of books by Miss Read but it always annoys me that the cat changes sex part way through.

I found Joseph Coggs staying perpetually young like Bart Simpson more annoying.

Maybe there was a portrait of him in the attic of Miss Clare's cottage?

SoManyCreepyBears · 02/11/2022 21:43

I read one on mat leave with ds (11). The dog in the book changed from a black lab to a collie. Still annoyed about it now!

Hobbes8 · 02/11/2022 21:44

Bridget Jones’s Baby the book bore no relation to the film of the same name. And I hate to tell you…but she’s writing a fourth film.

Changechangychange · 02/11/2022 21:52

Medoca · 02/11/2022 20:01

Also, to echo others, why do the majority of ‘women’s’ fiction books have the lead working as a frustrated novelist, working in marketing, shop owner, etc. why can’t we have scientists, architects, engineers, doctors, etc. a lot of the husbands have those jobs, so they obviously know about them, or could do a bit of research.

They totally don’t know anything about those professions, except husbands working in those roles are “a good catch”!

The odd time they do try to portray female doctors they have an absolutely bonkers idea of what we do all day. It’s always a surgeon not a physician, and they are always saving lives by taking dramatic risks, never just signing off clinic letters or sitting in a governance meeting Grin

Changechangychange · 02/11/2022 21:54

Ozgirl75 · 02/11/2022 21:31

I always thought the bizarre bit in Harry Potter was that his parents had him and then died in their early 20s, but James Potter had no parents, grandparents, uncles, cousins, basically not a single relative left who could care for his small child. What disaster had befallen the family previously?

James Potter was a massive twat in the books. Maybe his whole family had gone NC?

IWantAdventureInTheGreatWideSomewhere · 02/11/2022 21:55

PollyAmour · 02/11/2022 14:39

Did anyone read the third Brigit Jones book, the one that didn't get made into a film? Colin Firth had married her, fathered two children, then died. Brigit was having a hot affair with a younger musician. She had two primary school aged children, but was 51, which would have meant she waited 10+ years before having children, and in the first two books she was meant to be in her 30's already, wasn't she?

The book was called Mad About The Boy and I think Helen Fielding wishes she had never written it.

I KNOW Brigit isn't a real person, but I became irrationally annoyed by this book 😞

*Bridget

(Apologies, I'm an editor/proofreader and this thread has triggered me 🤣)

Sadly my job has ruined a lot of reading for me because all I do is spot the names spelled differently on different pages, names that don't go with the era (read one recently with teenagers called Gary and Sue), typos and punctuation errors, especially errant apostrophes and misplaced commas - so many authors love to splice their commas and dangle their modifiers - etc. It's maddening to not be able to just enjoy a bit of light reading!

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