Did covid screw anyone else's life up?

[girlmeetsboy]

Interested to hear on this as I have been reading a thread where people loved the solidarity of it all. For me it was redundancy, house lost, business lost and savings...

Restrictions were still I. Place until February 2022.

I had no issues post 4 vaccines BUT after covid this august ( fever, cold.symptioms for a week), I developed a life threatening allergy to ibuprofen (NSAIDS) and had anaphylaxis. That is prob correlation rather than causation though.

Asthma has remained fine and under control.

Lockdowns have been shown to be severely detrimental not only to people's mental health but also child development, ability to build immunity and in very serious cases children having liver transplants because they hadn't had early exposure to a otherwise low seriousness illness.
It's not "just a tough time" we lost family members to non covid illnesses were banned from travelling to see them and spend Christmas we will never get that back. My DP has cancer we take precautions before seeing him but I'm not missing out on precious time to be spent with him for the greater good and he doesn't want to be cut off either prefers to make the most of what time he has left as he puts it.

You can do what you like I however have learnt that lockdowns dont work and cause a whole heap of other issues as a result including lack of immunity to other diseases!

So you genuinely feel that it's your right to swan about as you like, merrily spreading a horrendous disease,

Wow, thought we were over this crap.

To you it may be crap. I suspect you're in a minority, as most people apparently value keeping their health and life .. whether or not I'm right, or wrong, calling what I posted crap doesn't speak well of your empathy or tolerance levels. But you do you.

I'm sorry that your DP has cancer; that sucks. And I agree with your first paragraph absolutely. I also 100% appreciate the pain of not being able to visit ill relatives or friends, and that spending Christmas apart can be extremely hard emotionally.

However all the factors in your first paragraph, and the remainder of your post don't, for me, compare to the thoroughly unpleasant and distressing death that is Covid.

And since I lost my beloved husband to it, I feel very strongly that I'd rather suffer 5 years - or more - of lockdown than have lost him, and a great deal of rage towards the people who willingly endangered others by flouting lockdown.

Yes, I don't think I'll ever recover. I needed some health stuff looked into before my health declined too much but then the first lockdown hit I couldn't access the care I needed. I'll probably never recover because of it, my health deterioated too much.
My eldest was at a critical age for sports coaching, he was at the age when development squads recruit but he lost that window and when the 2 years were over they were only interested in my youngest. I felt like I had lost 2 years of my children's lives.
Also the economy is so trashed now that my husband remains working overseas. We were in the middle of a move so never benefited from furlough or any other social saftey net. I don't want to have all my eggs in one basket, strangely enough I prefer if he stays away for now just incase we need to abandon this sinking ship.
I don't think I'll ever make proper friends again after seeing people going so batshit crazy and scared out of their minds, all the turning their backs on my children to not breath in their germs nonsense. I always believed in the Sweden approach personally, I would have emerged a better, healthier and probably more altruistic person (my nephew lives in Sweden and was much happier for it), instead I'm much more selfish, distrusting and bitter person. It's true what my Dad said about his experienes of WWII, the hardest thing isn't surviving war but living with people afterwards knowing what people are capable of when scared, desperate etc being able to look people in the eye. Certainly my neighbours aren't as friendly, there's less community spirit.

@a1poshpaws I'm sorry you lost your husband but it's also an airborne illness and wasnt spread by "people who flouted the rules". One of the most common places to contract covid was hospitals and not from covid wards.
It's a fast mutating virus it's impossible to keep it under control by lockdowns which pretty much every country other then China now accepts. Majority of scientists agree we need immunity build up which comes from exposure.

The number of serious respiratory cases in young children has gone up significantly in the last 8 months because of lack of exposure. My 3.5 year old DS was blue lighted to hospital as a result of a respiratory illness (not covid). Clinical staff all said the same thing lack of exposure to the viruses young has created a wave of much serious problems for young children. It will be the same with flu this year in older adults.
I'm sorry you lost your husband but lockdowns are not the answer either.

I’m so sorry reading all of these. I just hope better times are around the corner for you all, until then, stay strong x

@Scottishskifun you might be right. I just feel, if it's airborne, wouldn't lockdowns be a successful way to limit it, as if nobody is mixing and breathing it in, or out, and people aren't touching (e.g.,) cash machines and petrol pumps then their face or say, a shopping trolley handle, then surely that must limit the spread?

By the way, you're spot on - George was in hospital for intravenous antibiotics to clear up a stubborn infection when he got Covid.

To be honest I'm not sure it's going to matter for long what we do: with the rate of global warming, viruses like Covid appearing/mutating, the world's "lungs" - rainforests - being decimated, Putin making nuclear threats and China posturing re Taiwan while Kim Jong-un gaily fires off nuclear warheads I'm depressingly more and more convinced that earth isn't going to support human life for very much longer.

But then I'm feeling decidedly un-cheerful this morning.

And I'm sorry too, that your little one was made so ill by lockdown's preventing immunity build up.💐

My son was chronically lonely, depressed and isolated in his first year of Uni. He ended up suicidal.

My mum saw a GP face to face last week for the first time since Feb 2019. The lack of in person care means she has fallen through the cracks and looks likely to receive an advanced cancer diagnosis.

So not me directly but definitely my family.

These posts are really sad, I'm so sorry for anyone who lost a loved one. We lost my FIL in a care home & I couldn't even support DH at the funeral. It has really impacted MIL.

im so sorry for everyone that has suffered so much.

I didn’t experience some of the tragic things in this thread but I agree it was pretty awful. My very happy friendly 5/6 year old was desperately unhappy without his friends, he didn’t understand it and we were cautious as DH was vulnerable. DS mental health suffered and it’s taken us time to get him back. I struggled with being so isolated and trying to keep the kids going and happy. I gained a huge amount of weight and I can’t seem to shift the over eating mentality.

She won't be the only one.

And while you're lost for words, now is a good time to tell you lots of us didn't observe it last time either, and place absolutely no value on your framing of the issue.

Wow that's a way to speak to someone who lost their husband to covid. Jesus.

Realised just how controlling my husband is surrounding risk. My MH is shot to pieces, my body still feels exhausted all the time like its in tar.
I don’t think I will ever smile again

I missed the last page @Lottsbiffandsmudge , as it happens. That said, lots of people didn't observe the last lockdown, it must surely be obvious what compliance levels would be in the extremely unlikely event that another one were attempted and the idea that lockdowns were a net positive is hardly universally accepted. As it happens, I also experienced loss during covid, one that was worsened and made more painful by restrictions.

The way Uni students was treated was an absolute disgrace. In Summer 2020, they were promised the woolly worded "blended" learning to get them to commit to their Uni courses/accommodation, and then almost immediately after the deadline for committing, lots of Uni's changed their websites to remove the "blended learning" and replace it with "mostly online". In reality, my DS didn't have a single "in person" session for the entire 20/21 academic year, no F2F lectures, no F2F seminars or workgroups. None of his lecturers were ever even on campus for the entire year! His Uni college common room and bar remained closed and locked for the entire year. Even during the "gaps" between lockdowns, nothing re-opened, lecturers didn't make an appearance, clubs and societies didn't run. His campus was like a ghost town for the entire year, just lots of students wondering around the grounds like zombies getting exercise and fresh air away from being stuck in their tiny rooms. And don't get me started on the disgraceful attitude seen on the HE forum on here - lots of lecturers and Uni staff piling on to say they didn't want to be close to any students who they clearly despised. No wonder so many Uni students gave up their courses and some committed suicide. As for those Unis where security put up fences to stop students leaving their accommodation blocks - words fail me! My DS's Uni wasn't quite that bad, but they were patrolling the campus stopping students walking around in groups of more than 6 - totally unwilling to accept that they were in a "household" and could go out together, as the student accommodation flats were a minimum of 8 per flat rising to 16 per townhouse (all on campus), and they had their key fobs to prove they lived together, but security still split them up, even split them up when they tried to have a barbeque or footie game on the lawn outside when the law allowed household groups to go out together (not in the strictest lockdown periods of course).

My OH had his chemo treatment delayed, not due to Covid restrictions, but due to NHS incompetence. He was due for his first infusion the week Boris announced the lockdowns. He got a phone call on the morning saying it was cancelled and they'd get back to him with a revised date "when they knew what they were doing", so they basically cancelled everything without a plan!

Days passed, then weeks passed, and as he'd not heard from them, he phoned a few times, always went to answerphone so he left messages, which they never replied to. After about six weeks, we drove to the oncology dept to see if we could ask in person what the plan was, but when we got there, it was closed and shuttered. So he phoned again a few times. When it got to 3 months and he'd heard nothing, we realised something wasn't right. He phoned his GP surgery to ask if they knew what was happening with the oncology dept, but they said they'd heard nothing. He then phoned the hospital's main reception/switchboard, to ask them, and they told him it had closed permanently and the entire dept had been moved to a hospital in the next county! Nice of them to bother telling their patients wasn't it?

So armed with the phone number for the other hospital, he managed to finally get through to their oncology dept, and yes, everything and everyone had been "centralised" there the week of the first lockdown. Couldn't explain why OH hadn't been told, couldn't explain why no-one in oncology had thought to contact him considering he had been due to start chemotherapy! Apparently, he just fell between the cracks!

My grandmother died during Covid and we couldn’t have a funeral because most of her closest family live abroad. She died alone in a care home. We had a small service once allowed but it wasn’t the same and lots of stress with Covid passes and travel.
My youngest DC had a terrible preventable accident in lockdown with long term issues - I was standing right next to DC. I was zonked out with working and homeschooling, I wasn’t with it. Ended up in a London hospital for days during lockdown which was the most bizarre and traumatising experience. It all feels like my fault.
The Covid period was definitely the worst time period of my life but at the same time, I have an incredible determination to make the most out of every day now. To live life to the full etc
I had some low level depression during the lockdown, no energy, ill all the time and exhausted (could have been long Covid) but I am fine now. I still feel great sadness about this time period but I am so glad it is over.
On paper, we are the kind of family that should have been fine, house, garden, working from home etc. But we were not, DH is ECV and work was very stressful. One sensitive DC developed health anxiety and really struggled with homeschooling.

I have for a long time thought it is important to acknowledge the collective trauma we have been through. Everyone has their own individual Covid story but on the whole it is a large collective trauma and slightly different in every country too. I feel there is also a low level national depression going on which leads to less happiness and productivity. It needs to be mourned and acknowledged. I think it will in the arts, in particular.

@Badbadbunny

Oh I hear you on the unis in 2020. Absolute disgrace.
At my ds’s halls, the ‘security’ were literally letting themselves into flats unannounced and fining the students for sitting in their living rooms. All paid to the uni. Even the police cannot come into your house unannounced.

i know manchester uni of ‘wall fame’ have an ongoing enquiry about said wall, but mostly the unis have got away with it.

Same here re more lockdowns. The vulnerable need to look out for themselves now, wear FFP masks if they are that worried etc. I’m not sacrificing mine and my family’s well being and happiness for randoms again. And it’s not about swanning around spreading an infectious illness, of course if we had it or were otherwise ill we’d stay home. But the government are onto plums if they think I’ll be taking any more instruction from them as to who I’ll be permitted to have in my own private home or to place restrictions on me meeting my own family members of friends ever again.

I've lost both my parents, 1 to cancer June 2020 1 stroke Dec 2020 and my sisters marriage has broken down
I lost a retail job I did on the side for extra money and my partner was furloughed it's been tough financially
My kids were little so the impact was minimised they seemed happy at home playing but for me and DP it's been awful.
Nearly 3 years on now and things still aren't very normal. We just keep plodding on.

This should be moved, does chat still get deleted I don’t know

It would counter all the whipping up into a frenzy threads we had and show the damage the actions had.

I just wish I could send everyone who's suffered a big hug. (But I also feel that many wouldn't want that!)

Which seems a bit to echo the situation we're in - it seems we're all a bit wary and tired (oh my word so tired), and a bit defeated.

I think that the isolation and confusion and uncertainty has made a lot of us withdraw, and feel less trusting. Which means we have less of the support that we probably all need to process what's happened.

Maybe it will happen in its own time.

Sending warm wishes.