Medical and health things we'll be horrified by in the future

[Leavesofautumn]

This is inspired by a recent thread about sunbeds.

What things happen now, that in fifty years time we'll be horrified by in the same way that we're horrified by certain things from Victorian times now, or even things from the 1960s? I'm talking about both medical treatments, and products that are harmful to health. In fact asbestos is still a problem now if certain buildings are being demolished.

Smoking indoors is an obvious one - even now I'm amazed we ever went into a restaurant and specifically had to ask for a non-smoking table.

Sunbeds are already banned in Australia and Brazil.

Prednisolone is a nasty drug and I'd like to see it eventually fall out of use once something better has been invented.

I agree with everything here. I sincerely hope they are all a thing of the past, sooner rather than later. And as a pp said, the mutilation of children at the altar of trans ideology.

Maternity care

I am by no means an expert whatsoever but I thought with Type 1 diabetes you could not have sugar? If that is the case then surely it is a personal choice to eat food that is full of artificial sweeteners (presumably to make up for not having sugar).

Lots of people choose to not eat sugar and not use artificial sweeteners as a substitute.

Or am I missing something/getting confused?

Just to add I’m sure that there are so many amazing maternity staff, but I was shocked and somewhat traumatised by my own experiences

Me too. I’m of the opinion prednisone is obviously better than dying from allergy, but it’s hell for me to take. Day 2, I stop sleeping. Day3, my mental state is all over the place -I become ‘almost manic’ to the point that people close to me notice, all while consuming huge amounts of food. These side effects don’t settle until I wean off.

I agree CBT is definitely not for every problem or for everyone. There's no question that it's pushed because it's cheap.

However I do think it can be very good - I had it twice, the first time I thought it was rubbish I must admit. The second time I had it, 7 years later, I found it life-changing. The skill of the practitioner is a huge factor I think.

Woodburners. They are very popular but a major cause of indoor pollution. It is like smoking indoors, and yet no one seems to care.

I actually wonder if things like blood tests will be considered really barbaric.
Ok my imagination we've invented a machine a bit like the pulse oximeter which just reads your blood with some special lights - obviously wouldn't work for all blood tests!

@Morestrangethings

Yes, there are side effects. But, that would be true of most medicines. I happy to trade the side effects for life.

Prednisolone is an unpleasant drug, my mother's consultant confirmed she died from the side effects. It also kept her alive for 30 years, not a bad trade off.

It's cheap if what you're getting is actually a strictly limited 6 sessions with a random CBT therapist who may or may not be a good fit for you and may or may not have had a lot of experience or further training, or guided self-help with a psychological well-being practitioner, or group CBT psychoeducation, or access to a computer programme. Sometimes these things do work, too, even if they are cheap, especially if the client fits the model that they're designed for, but they're usually extremely heavily manualised, not tailored for the individual and their specific problems, delivered by people with the bare minimum of training who don't know how to go outside the specific scenarios they're trained to treat, and too short and limited to really show off what CBT can do.

CBT can be pretty expensive if it's with a psychologist or extensively-trained CBT therapist who's experienced in using the full gamut of CBT techniques, and is skilled in all the other therapeutic techniques required for assessing what CBT tools are needed and how to apply them, and if it's carried on for as long as is necessary to deal with the problem.

Well, any sort of test that involves injections or cutting tissue away.

I would guess the tech to do away with the current painful stuff is a long way away... Star Trek type stuff.

Hopefully regulated euthanasia will be legal…feel strongly about this topic .

I should clarify — not everyone working in IAPT has the bare minimum of training they need to deliver specific limited treatments; there are some people working in the service with years of experience who have done lots of training. But you won't necessarily get one of those people, and if you do, they likely won't have the time or the freedom to apply any of that within the framework they're required to work in. It's very much bulk, standardised, mass-throughput stuff, which on the one hand does "improve access" to psychological therapy and get interventions delivered to large numbers of people, but on the other hand means that the public impression is now that this is what CBT is.

Topical steroids.
Absolute poison. Withdrawal is hell. Knocked me into early menopause.
Dermatologists are criminally negligent- all the evidence is there but they refuse to change excema treatments.

Surrogacy. I think, and hope, it will be viewed in the same way we look back at the forced adoptions and laundries of past generations, or buying kidneys from people in developing countries.

As we do now with adoption at birth in very limited circumstances, we might consider it acceptable for a sibling or lifelong best friend to volunteer for nothing but love, but the idea of buying a baby from a stranger, even dressed up as expenses and it being legal and something any country openly allowed will hopefully horrify people in the future.

The fact we let people suffer, be left with lifelong complications and in many cases die because they can’t access what is meant to be a national health service. Throwing 90yr old Betty out into the car park because she’s bed blocking as there’s no social care would be bad pr for any government, but a 40yr old dying of a curable illness because they couldn’t get help in time or a 60yr old left permanently disabled from a stroke because an ambulance couldn’t get there for hours, or an 85yr old dying at home from a fall doesn’t look as bad on the front page of a newspaper.
I’m not quite sure how we’re going to tell future generations that at one point we had actual hospitals that ill people could be treated in but we decided to turn them into giant temporary free care homes because the nation was divided into those unable to pay for social care and those that wouldn’t.

Vaping
botox
lip fillers
piercings
sunbeds

Treating the symptoms and ignoring the cause. The lack of training doctors receive regarding diet and that it is for the most part ignored.

I don't agree with all of the CBT comments, I found it incredibly helpful.

Transing kids. Utterly horrifying and a humongous future medical scandal in the making.

As someone who has PoTs I can confirm that it is not in your mind and can not be cured by CBT

Fucking antibiotics for everything (I say this as a HCP) oh your legs fallen off? Have some antibiotics. You have a viral infection? Here, you go pick this up from the pharmacy
does my head in

I would very much want antibiotics if my leg fell off. I mean it hardly sounds like an aseptic procedure.

ECT (electroconvulsive therapy). It's absolutely barbaric and I have the right to say that having had about 20 sessions of it 6 years ago. I cannot understand how it's still in use in 2022!

Re artificial sweeteners, l came across this article quite recently (in spanish, click on translate to english) it says a study has linked artifical sweeteners to some cancers, but have not read anything about this before, and the article is nearly 10 years old now
https://blog.alkalinecare.com/2013/04/23/el-aspartamo-vinculado-con-leucemia-y-linfomas-en-un-pionero-estudio-sobre-humanos/

Some of the licensed medication despite side effects.

Cervical smears. The method hasn't changed in almost a century. That women put up with this invasion as a primary method of screening is a disgrace.