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Medical and health things we'll be horrified by in the future

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Leavesofautumn · 22/10/2022 12:29

This is inspired by a recent thread about sunbeds.

What things happen now, that in fifty years time we'll be horrified by in the same way that we're horrified by certain things from Victorian times now, or even things from the 1960s? I'm talking about both medical treatments, and products that are harmful to health. In fact asbestos is still a problem now if certain buildings are being demolished.

Smoking indoors is an obvious one - even now I'm amazed we ever went into a restaurant and specifically had to ask for a non-smoking table.

Sunbeds are already banned in Australia and Brazil.

Prednisolone is a nasty drug and I'd like to see it eventually fall out of use once something better has been invented.

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medianewbie · 22/10/2022 15:01

WakingUpDistress · 22/10/2022 14:08

Long covid is in your mind and can be cured with CBT
ME is in your mind and can be cured with CBT
POTS is in your mind and can be cured with CBT
Actually any illness that doesn’t fit the nice tidy little boxes and we dint quite understand yet is in your mind and can be cured with CBT
Medical gaslighting too but I suspect this one will still be there in 50 years time.

Yes! Because CBT is cheap to train for & deliver. When it doesn't work you can then blame the patient. Its PERFECT!

dementedma · 22/10/2022 15:02

What's wrong with Prednisone? It has quite literally saved my life on more than one occasion by enabling me to breathe!

DuchessofAnkh99 · 22/10/2022 15:03

Probably quite a controversial one but here goes

Petrol and Diesel vehicles - I think people don't really comprehend how bad the pollution is from these vehicles...

Then Fossil fuels - as above, polluting. I'm including wood burners, coal fires.

Then the one that should already be banned - sunbeds.

CJat10 · 22/10/2022 15:03

I think we will gradually assess quality over quantity of life and chemo etc will be given after balanced iinformation. My father with advanced dementia was given treatment which extended his life. Torture. I think we'll take a much kinder view to assisted dying than now

Supersimkin2 · 22/10/2022 15:04

Dying of dementia. Gruesome but the law doesn’t allow any caring alternative.

ilytmab · 22/10/2022 15:04

Being able to buy codeine OTC .

dementedma · 22/10/2022 15:05

The mutilation of young people on the altar of trans ideology

BankseyVest · 22/10/2022 15:06

Sanitary pads and tampons. Surely there should be a better way rather than an oversized plaster to catch the blood

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 22/10/2022 15:07

They way that we still pretend that complex mental health issues can be resolved by sitting in a room and talking to someone who is trained in something that is a completely esoteric black art, based on nothing more than supposition and conjecture, and is entirely at the mercy of luck of the draw whether that professional is in any way competent or insightful anyway.

There's a reason why psychiatry and psychology are basically laughed at as the arse-end of medicine, and while it's good that more and more 'talking therapy' is being exposed for the ineffectual nonsense that it is, it's still a scandal that the only real alternative to it is to be handed psychiatric meds that may help or may actually make your health even worse, or you end up in a completely underfunded and undermonitored institution where there is inadequate staffing, the staff are insufficiently trained and supported, and you are often just left to the mercies of the other extremely ill patients that you find yourself in bedlam with.

Parking on psychiatric meds is still frequently common, as is the pig-headed refusal of psychiatrists to accept that sometimes a patient has a far better insight into their own illness than they do.

forrestgreen · 22/10/2022 15:08

Venesection needles. Barbarically huge!

Inmyhandbag · 22/10/2022 15:10

RandomMusings7 · 22/10/2022 14:28

Lack of proper pain management in labour and the silly idea that natural is always best

I remember saying this in the 70s when I had my first. Has nothing changed in the last 50 years? Actually I know the answer to that, maternity and postnatal care has changed very much for the worse from what I've read on here. Labour and birth was barbaric then with medical staff who actually thought 'women should suffer to give birth' - told to me by a doctor! But at least new mums were cared for after birth and left hospital rested which absolutely isn't the case now.
Let's hope it improves in the next 50 years.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 22/10/2022 15:10

Cutting girls healthy breasts off because they like playing with GI Joe rather than Barrie ( thanks for the chart, Susie)

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 22/10/2022 15:10

Barbie ffs

CJat10 · 22/10/2022 15:13

Supersimkin2 · 22/10/2022 15:04

Dying of dementia. Gruesome but the law doesn’t allow any caring alternative.

Cruel and barbaric

N4ish · 22/10/2022 15:15

Agree that the mental health implications of allowing children and young teenagers unrestricted access to the internet are huge. Really think that allowing this will seem like a huge dereliction of duty when future generations look back.

EndlessMagpies · 22/10/2022 15:15

I think people will be horrified by the way women are supposed to don a stiff upper lip and put up with horrendous periods & menopausal symptoms.

The way underactive thyroid symptoms are so often overlooked in women too.

In fact, I think people will be horrified at a whole host of health issues which are routinely swept under the carpet and misdiagnosed as 'depression' in women, and treated as such, but which are actually due to something else entirely.

Sarahcoggles · 22/10/2022 15:16

WakingUpDistress · 22/10/2022 14:08

Long covid is in your mind and can be cured with CBT
ME is in your mind and can be cured with CBT
POTS is in your mind and can be cured with CBT
Actually any illness that doesn’t fit the nice tidy little boxes and we dint quite understand yet is in your mind and can be cured with CBT
Medical gaslighting too but I suspect this one will still be there in 50 years time.

No one has said CBT can cure these things. It's meant to help you deal with it.

Gingerkittykat · 22/10/2022 15:16

FurryDandelionSeekingMissile · 22/10/2022 14:25

Atypical antipsychotics like quetiapine/Seroquel being prescribed willy-nilly for anxiety, insomnia, emotional dysregulation, augmentation of depression treatment, etc.

These next-gen antipsychotics are a trade-off — broadly speaking, compared to the older antipsychotics there's a lower incidence of temporary or permanent movement disorders, but higher incidence of extreme weight gain and diabetes. If you would've needed antipsychotics anyway, then it's good that there are more choices now. But it horrifies me that people who would never have been recommended older drugs like trifluoperazine/Stelazine or haloperidol/Haldol are now offered quetiapine/Seroquel as if it's no more of a big deal than taking fluoxetine/Prozac.

I agree with you 100%. I am someone who put on several stone and developed diabetes at the age of 35 as a result of these drugs.

I would also add that antidepressant use will be looked back on in horror. The Royal College of Psychiatrists were forced to update their guidelines to say that antidepressant abuse can be severe and long lasting and not mild for a couple of weeks as most Drs tell you. I have never experienced anything in my life like venlafaxine withdrawals.

Coyoacan · 22/10/2022 15:17

WakingUpDistress

Many, many years ago my mother said that only women get told that their illnesses are all in their mind and that is still true today.

Leavesofautumn · 22/10/2022 15:18

@ohnoohnoo People with Crohn's typically have to take prednisolone for at least six weeks. Some people have to take them for months. Very different from only five days.

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Leavesofautumn · 22/10/2022 15:19

Coyoacan · 22/10/2022 15:17

WakingUpDistress

Many, many years ago my mother said that only women get told that their illnesses are all in their mind and that is still true today.

Sadly I can't see that one changing any time soon.

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viques · 22/10/2022 15:19

Chemical sterilisation and surgical mutilation of young and sexually confused teens being approved and paid for on the NHS.

Leavesofautumn · 22/10/2022 15:20

I agree with whoever said artificial sweeteners. I know it's not great to consume loads of sugar either, but the sugar tax has meant that lots more soft drinks recently have had artificial sweeteners added instead so I feel it's replacing one problem with another.

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ohnoohnoo · 22/10/2022 15:20

Leavesofautumn · 22/10/2022 15:18

@ohnoohnoo People with Crohn's typically have to take prednisolone for at least six weeks. Some people have to take them for months. Very different from only five days.

Yes I completely understand that, I'm lucky that I only take them for 5 days but I do have to take them quite a few times throughout the winter so it's something I will keep an eye on from now on!

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 22/10/2022 15:21

Puberty blockers given for gender dysphoria without a full assessment of the child's mental health and without trying family therapy first. Double mastectomy on teenage girls who identify as male or non-binary, who in some cases have apparently subsequently said they thought their breasts would 'grow back' or who didn't grasp that they would never be able to breast-feed. Sad Angry Cross-hormones taken by either sex, given that this inevitably leads to infertility, early menopause for females, increased risk of heart disease, and in many cases (both sexes) they lose the ability to orgasm. Sexual reassignment surgery for both sexes, given the very poor outcomes and high risk of infection.

Also, the utter failure of professional people to look critically at the so called research supporting all of the above, which it's now clear is of very poor quality, and say 'No, this isn't good enough. This isn't an evidence-based approach. And why are the young people coming forward with gender issues disproportionately the ones with a history of abuse or trauma or family problems, pre-existing mental health problems, on the autistic spectrum, eating disorders? Why is all that being ignored and just the gender issues being treated?'

And finally, the utter failure to research the long-term health consequences of any of the above.