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What's the girls equivalent of Eton & why?

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Dinaprettyballerina · 20/10/2022 13:23

Just out of interest which English girls school is the one all sharp elbowed parents are trying to get their girls into? Eton has a reputation for having the pushiest parents with alot of overseas parents who are extremely invested in getting the very best education & getting their child in at all costs.. what is the female equivalent?

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stillavid · 20/10/2022 18:04

My daughter boards at one of the schools mentioned and believe me lots of people want to send their children to the big public schools.

And ridiculous to think they are being trained to be 'support' acts.

olympicsrock · 20/10/2022 18:05

I would say Wycombe Abbey. Very academic, posh. Regular socials with Eton and Harrow. Hated it….

StrychnineInTheSandwiches · 20/10/2022 18:07

Allthegoodnamesarealreadytaken · 20/10/2022 18:01

00s, might sound melodramatic but the legacy still lives with me today. Not having ofsted around means nothing can really be escalated.

still think about my friend that killed herself, relentless mocked about her weight by teachers and kids developed a serious ED and depression and never recovered, became too much and she took her own life

oh and EDs were rife too

So recent! That's awful.

I was wondering if maybe you were going to say the 1980s.

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IrisVersicolor · 20/10/2022 18:07

It would definitely be Cheltenham or Wycombe.

Eton is massive - 1300 boys and actually takes a range of intelligence.

Whereas St Paul’s is smaller, day, and more academically focused. The bracket is London professionals.

overtaxedunderling · 20/10/2022 18:09

ODFOx · 20/10/2022 15:31

St Trinians.
I was Head Girl and always knew I was destined for greatness!

Not many got to run their own wing at Holloway.

BravelyStunning · 20/10/2022 18:09

AriettyHomily · 20/10/2022 13:41

Where did truss go to school?! 😂

I think she went to Roundhay in Leeds- a common or garden comp. It's got a good reputation now, but when Liz went there, not so much.

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 20/10/2022 18:09

Dinaprettyballerina · 20/10/2022 13:33

It's interesting as Eton is seen as the beacon of poshness & it's where all most of our bright & brilliant leaders😜have studied but no girls school has such a reputation..

Cheltenham, Queen's and Marlborough all do. But of course, those reputations take a back seat to the ones catering for males. As was ever the case.

therubbiliser · 20/10/2022 18:13

MrsAvocet · 20/10/2022 13:59

Just my observation as an outsider but I think there is no direct equivalent because historically women have not been groomed for power in the same way as men, so girls' schools didn't gain reputations for the same kind of things as boys schools.
I had a few very wealthy acquaintances at University. The boys had been to Rugby and Harrow (don't think I knew any old Etonians) and the girls to Cheltenham Ladies' College and Roedean. They were from very similar backgrounds and definitely did see themselves as the ruling class, but I got the impression that the girls, though they had great academic credentials, had not been brought up/educated to see themselves as future leaders, but rather as potential wives of future leaders. The one girl from that kind of background that I knew who was really focused on her own career progression had been to Rugby for 6th form in fact.
Obviously this is a very small sample, and it was the 80s so hopefully things have changed, but I suspect the reason why there is no true "girls' Eton" is good old fashioned misogyny.
(I hasten to add that I don't subscribe to the idea that all our leaders should come from such schools, but that's a different issue altogether. )

Yep this

MyHamsterIsSmarterThanMe · 20/10/2022 18:15

AriettyHomily · 20/10/2022 13:41

Where did truss go to school?! 😂

She went to a state school. Made a big deal out of how rough her state school apparently was and generally tried to get maximum political mileage out of it. 🙄

JustanotherBerkshiremum · 20/10/2022 18:17

Woldingham

Upsidedownwellies · 20/10/2022 18:24

I suppose if the number of Prime Ministers produced from Eton is anything to go by, then we could look at other public schools to check for number of PMs, if at all and then look to their sister schools, if any.

St Paul’s Boys’ School produced Spencer Compton as PM and George Osborne as Chancellor. There is St Paul’s Girls’ School so that could be seen as an equivalent to a girls’ Eton in some ways. It churns out many successful women.

Westminster produced Nick Clegg, girls are admitted in the sixth form.

Habs hasn’t produced any PMs.

City of London Boys’ had Herbert Asquith as Prime Minister and Earl of Oxford. There is a sister school.

Dulwich College has no PMs

Stowe has none.

Wycombe hasn’t produced any female PMs, although plenty of successes in other areas.

Cheltenham Ladies’ College and Roedean have traditionally been held in high esteem.

Then you could look at members of the Royal Family, Victoria Crosses awarded, QC appointments, etc.

The Public Schools Act of 1868 lists:

Eton, Harrow, Westminster, Winchester, Charterhouse and Rugby, with City of London School added at a later date.

St Paul’s and Merchant Taylor’s’ were excluded because they were deemed by the Clarendon Report to be ‘private’ rather than ‘public’ schools, so any abuse could not be legally challenged, unlike all the former which had been originally established as charitable schools.

Allthegoodnamesarealreadytaken · 20/10/2022 18:26

StrychnineInTheSandwiches · 20/10/2022 18:07

So recent! That's awful.

I was wondering if maybe you were going to say the 1980s.

Sadly fairly recently, ‘bring it on’/ ‘mean girls’ era that mentality and copying it was rife, especially if you weren’t as wealthy as some such as me.

i do sincerely hope that it’s changed now and there is more awareness around mental health, abuse and safe guarding. I imagine that a lot of private schools are similar as there is no system of accountability

pigsDOfly · 20/10/2022 18:26

That's interesting, she had the public school speaking voice down to a t!

She really doesn't.

And you do know that you don't actually have to go to public school to have a RP accent?

Not everyone that goes to a state school sounds like a cast member of East Enders.

Etonianmother · 20/10/2022 18:30

Wycombe Abbey is the nearest thing there is to a "girls' equivalent" to Eton, but it's still very different. One thing it does have in common with Eton is that the majority of the pupils are academically extremely able, rather than just "posh".

However, there's a lot more choice for parents who want single-sex schools for their daughters than there is for parents who want single-sex schools for their sons. Many of the girls' schools are very good indeed (including day schools).

YouSirNeighMmmm · 20/10/2022 18:32

Kabbalah · 20/10/2022 13:30

Cheltenham
Roedean
Downe House
Wycombe Abbey
St Mary’s, Ascot
Mayfield

Take your pick.

No clue but Roedean would be my guess... I am biased because a distant family member went there (and I met a female Tory MP at her wedding!)

TrashyPanda · 20/10/2022 18:36

Eliannah · 20/10/2022 14:15

Only PM to ever go to a state school.

i take it that was a joke?

you forgot

David Lloyd George
Andrew Bonar Law
Ramsay MacDonald
Harold Wilson
Jim Callaghan
Margaret Thatcher
John Major
Gordon Brown

Upsidedownwellies · 20/10/2022 18:36

Yes, agree with Mrs Avocet, there isn’t really a certain equivalent.

A lot of young women would leave public schools with good qualifications but were conditioned to think it wasn’t becoming to proceed further. They would become PAs, secretaries, nannies, florists, then marry, perhaps set up a business from home and continue that unpaid organisation role for their husbands.

theremustonlybeone · 20/10/2022 18:37

Cheltenham Ladies

My DH close friends boy is at Elon and girl at Cheltenham ( both boarding of course)

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 20/10/2022 18:48

SandraOMG · 20/10/2022 17:46

I had to Google! Yes he was at oxford, now Leeds. Maths emeritus (whatever that means)!

Emeritus is an academic term that means retired but still recognised as a Professor at that university. They often continue to be involved in research.

SandraOMG · 20/10/2022 18:51

Thanks @Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 20/10/2022 18:51

BravelyStunning · 20/10/2022 18:09

I think she went to Roundhay in Leeds- a common or garden comp. It's got a good reputation now, but when Liz went there, not so much.

Did it have a dip, then? I was at secondary school in Leeds in the 1970s and always heard of Roundhay as a good school.

TheMarzipanDildo · 20/10/2022 18:51

Allthegoodnamesarealreadytaken · 20/10/2022 17:50

So many things, bullying was routinely turned a blind eye too and so many teachers bullied the students too, there were 2 suicides of former pupils that you can see is just directly related to the sheer amount of shit that they went through there. I knew one of them very well.

absolutely no safe guarding, I know personally someone who was being abused at home, reported it to the teachers and nothing, I think they sided with her abuser actually.

i really stand firm in the fact that yes there are more opportunities in those schools but it’s not the environment or teaching that’s generating the better results, it’s the fact that you’ve sat and entrance exam so you’ve in effect ‘weeded out’ anyone who’d get a grade below a c (in old money)

This is so sad Sad

WannabeMrsWalker · 20/10/2022 18:56

I would have said Cheltenham college for young ladies as that is where the absolutely uber rich poshest girls or girls with very aspirational done-good-for themselves parents, that I knew at Uni went.

Bramblejoos · 20/10/2022 19:01

Zara Tindall went to Gordonstoun

Reigateforever · 20/10/2022 19:03

Many private schools have a charitable status, which means they are entitled to claim tax breaks