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'Karen'

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teaandtoastwithmarmite · 17/09/2022 13:26

Does anyone else despise this term? I see it on Facebook posts (public ones not friends). Also a boy in my DD's class called my DD one after she asked him to be quiet in class. I did say she shouldn't taken it upon herself to tell him off but where has he got that term from? It annoys me.

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MissyB1 · 17/09/2022 21:38

Buzzinwithbez · 17/09/2022 21:08

It's a horrible way of shutting women up.

Yep and I despise people who use it, they embarrass themselves.

mondaytosunday · 17/09/2022 22:14

@ToFindNewWays I don't agree. I see women use the term as much as anyone, and it means now a woman who is self entitled to a ridiculous degree as far as I can tell.

ForfuckssakeEXHstopbeingatwat · 17/09/2022 23:38

It might "mean" an entitled pearl-clutcher but it is being USED in a much wider context to gaslight any woman over about 30 who dares to complain, try to instill discipline or safety, stand up for their statutory rights or otherwise be a nuisance to small children, teens, and retail managers. The use of it in those contexts implies that whatever the actual issue is, it isn't real, or a problem, you're just being a Karen. Because the alternative is to accept you are being rude / dangerous / dishonest/ unprofessional or whatever. God forbid the woman might have a legitimate point. Much much easier to call her a Karen, minimise the issue and hope she's sufficiently mortified to scuttle off and stop telling you to cease whatever behaviour caused the initial problem, or to ask for a refund or whatever it is. It's pathetic.

Thistleinthenight · 17/09/2022 23:47

It's nasty. I find only a certain type of person uses the term. The unthinking ones.

MoggyMittens23 · 18/09/2022 08:10

If someone uses it I just presume they are a bit dim.

Especially the woman who use it. You are playing right into men's hands by giving them an easy insult to women that they know is acceptable because loads of women use it too!

If someone is being racist, just call them racist.

I said on here before that I felt sorry for people called Karen. I was accused of being a huge stonking racist, and got a load of 'we see you' I mean... what do you do with that?

A580Hojas · 18/09/2022 09:19

Exactly, very well put ForfuckssakeEx.

You'd think people would be aware of this co-opting of the Karen insult - and actually I think most people now are - but that doesn't matter to some on this thread. Their right to gaslight and shut down other women for no good reason should go unquestioned apparently. It's a sort of bizarre top trumps situation.

okytdvhuoo · 18/09/2022 11:25

Yeah it’s misogynistic and ageist. It’s used to shut down women’s voices and put in their place with ridicule.

MissyB1 · 18/09/2022 11:44

A580Hojas · 18/09/2022 09:19

Exactly, very well put ForfuckssakeEx.

You'd think people would be aware of this co-opting of the Karen insult - and actually I think most people now are - but that doesn't matter to some on this thread. Their right to gaslight and shut down other women for no good reason should go unquestioned apparently. It's a sort of bizarre top trumps situation.

Oh they are definitely aware. They will lie through their teeth though in order to gaslight and bully other women. Depressing.

gatehouseoffleet · 19/09/2022 21:20

The Central Park Karen (‘I’m calling the police to tell them there’s a BLACK man threatening me’)..that occurred on the same day George Floyd got murdered. I don’t know which was worse, a cop killing a black person, or a white woman who knows the system is rigged against black people by emphasising the man’s colour in her phone call

She was called Amy. I see no reason to call her Karen. Or "a" Karen. She was racist, so call her what she was (or is).

gatehouseoffleet · 19/09/2022 21:24

mondaytosunday · 17/09/2022 22:14

@ToFindNewWays I don't agree. I see women use the term as much as anyone, and it means now a woman who is self entitled to a ridiculous degree as far as I can tell.

Because men never behave in an entitled (or racist) way!

I saw it on Twitter today - used to shut down someone who was concerned about missing a medical appointment due to the Queen's funeral. Yep - totally entitled and deserved and all the women in the world called Karen deserve to have their name co-opted in such a way.

It's disgusting that any woman thinks it acceptable (or any decent man, come to that).

ClottedCreamAndStrawberries · 20/09/2022 06:42

I loathe it. It’s generally used by unintelligent people who can’t have a proper discussion about anything. Basically, if you don’t agree with what they say then you’re wrong, or possibly a ‘Karen’. I actually refuse to engage with adults who name call because I see it as very childish.

J0y · 20/09/2022 07:43

Yes, agree, and by lazily labelling somebody more assertive a "karen" they believe that they're signalling that they are easy-going and lovely 🙄

gatehouseoffleet · 20/09/2022 16:04

Here's an example for you. If I ask someone to pipe down and stop listening to loud music without headphones in the quiet carriage.

A woman! Over 45! Asking someone to be quiet! So entitled! I should shut up and stop being a Karen.

Do you get it yet?

Figgygal · 20/09/2022 16:10

Hate it with a passion its a misogynistic and lazy way to dismiss other people
Its overused on SM by many who use it out of context too
Hate it

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