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How do they decide which lads get to be the Queen’s coffin bearers?

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Wenwes · 14/09/2022 20:07

Such responsibility, and they all looked so young.

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GoodVibesHere · 14/09/2022 21:35

Ifailed · 14/09/2022 20:54

Why couldn't eight women have done it - I'm sure there are plenty of capable ones in the armed forces?

Maybe they were women? Who are we to decide how they identifyGrin

Genvonklinkerhoffen · 14/09/2022 21:37

I used to work in Wellington Barracks. As pps have said they will be tall and smart (not everyone looks smart dressed in home service clothing -red tunic).

they will also be well behaved to prevent them having to be removed at short notice for (eg) inappropriate social media posts or something like this Philips funeral

SenecaFallsRedux · 14/09/2022 21:40

Wenwes · 14/09/2022 20:39

So they must’ve had to pass some sort of fitness assessment as well then?

I thought the walk from Buckingham Palace to Westminster must’ve taken a lot out of Charles and Ann - they’re both in their 70’s after all. And a couple of times in Westminster, Charles looked as if he was swaying on his feet.

I was impressed by the Duke of Gloucester; he walked and he is 78.

WeakAsIAm · 14/09/2022 21:42

Gosh yes they were bloody amazing, and all looked so young.
I was in awe watching them doing such an amazing job, how proud must their families be?

Frazzled2207 · 14/09/2022 21:44

I thought they were amazing. What an honour.
I couldn’t help thinking though, what if one of them tripped. Can you imagine?!

FourChimneys · 14/09/2022 21:45

SenecaFallsRedux 78 isn't old if you have been able to keep yourself fit and healthy. I know an 87 year old who still runs a few miles a day.

But yes, I saw a bit of the procession on the 'net. The soldiers did an excellent job.

Eloise38 · 14/09/2022 21:52

Wenwes · 14/09/2022 20:28

I can’t begin to imagine how nerve wracking that must’ve been :(. I helped to carry my dh’s coffin and it was terrifying, emotional, heavy, and just plain difficult.

That must have been tremendously difficult, I'm sorry for your loss. You did your husband proud.

lemonyanus · 14/09/2022 21:52

I thought a few of them were going to pass out!

N1C · 14/09/2022 21:53

@minou123 is the pillow it's on top of also pinned to the coffin? Hmm

LubaLuca · 14/09/2022 21:53

78 isn't old if you have been able to keep yourself fit and healthy. I know an 87 year old who still runs a few miles a day.

Come on, that's a bit disingenuous. 78 is undoubtedly old. One really old person running is not a benchmark.

Helgadaley · 14/09/2022 21:58

As someone else has sat, I expect they had to be almost the same height, otherwise there would have been some undignified tilting.
They all did splendidly and should be very proud of themselves. Imagine what a story to tell their grandchildren.

FourChimneys · 14/09/2022 22:00

"LubaLuca* but loads of 78 year olds could walk a mile or two. How far was it?

minou123 · 14/09/2022 22:01

N1C · 14/09/2022 21:53

@minou123 is the pillow it's on top of also pinned to the coffin? Hmm

Maybe. I'm don't really know. I just sort of assumed it was pinned, just incase it slipped off.

Helgadaley · 14/09/2022 22:02

78 isn't old if you have been able to keep yourself fit and healthy. I know an 87 year old who still runs a few miles a day
Oh please, give over. That's insulting to those people who are not as fit as they used to be. It's called normal ageing. I have a relative who spouts this sort of thing. She said of her ex husband who died, "Well, he didn't look after himself."

Wenwes · 14/09/2022 22:03

It wasn’t just walking though - it was walking in ceremonial uniform, on a warm day, to a very particular and sustained rhythm, dealing with bereavement and with millions of people watching.

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CombatBarbie · 14/09/2022 22:03

Lallybroch · 14/09/2022 21:11

I also thought it looked very uncomfortable marching at 'reverse arms', having to hold your left arm behind your back all the time. It's not a natural position to be in and it must have been nearly for nearly an hour.

I think most of the armed forces watching on TV or whatever all said at the same time, what are they doing?? Before Hue must have read the nations mind and explained reverse arms.

I've served 25yrs and done 1 funeral, my husband 26yrs and done 3 funerals and we have never seen this drill movement!. It was rather spectacular to witness.

Google suggests that this drill movement is common in Commonwealth countries so it may have been the Queens nod to them.....

Wenwes · 14/09/2022 22:04

Eloise38 · 14/09/2022 21:52

That must have been tremendously difficult, I'm sorry for your loss. You did your husband proud.

Thank you @Eloise38 - I wanted to do it for him but I’ve had better days it must be said :(.

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Genvonklinkerhoffen · 14/09/2022 22:05

@CombatBarbie its defo part of a British state funeral procession, backward on your arms reverse.

Wenwes · 14/09/2022 22:12

CombatBarbie · 14/09/2022 22:03

I think most of the armed forces watching on TV or whatever all said at the same time, what are they doing?? Before Hue must have read the nations mind and explained reverse arms.

I've served 25yrs and done 1 funeral, my husband 26yrs and done 3 funerals and we have never seen this drill movement!. It was rather spectacular to witness.

Google suggests that this drill movement is common in Commonwealth countries so it may have been the Queens nod to them.....

That’s interesting, thank you. You and your dh have served a long time between you!

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CombatBarbie · 14/09/2022 22:18

Genvonklinkerhoffen · 14/09/2022 22:05

@CombatBarbie its defo part of a British state funeral procession, backward on your arms reverse.

I never suggested it wasn't, I don't recall seeing it as Prince Philips or Queen Mothers funeral that's all. It's certainly not something I was taught on weapon or funeral drill, but was beautiful to see.

Genvonklinkerhoffen · 14/09/2022 22:29

It's used for funeral processions so not sure you'd use it for a standard military funeral? I was ushering at one yesterday and there was a lower on your arms reverse by the guard of honour but no procession so no need for it in motion.

Not a threat to your service, pls chill out. Working at Welly B taught me a lot of niche household division/drill trivia, the only time it's ever come in useful is knowing what year the Coldstream guards were formed for a pub quiz.

MrsMacnair · 14/09/2022 22:37

JamMakingWannaBe · 14/09/2022 20:43

The lads in Edinburgh had buttons on their shoulders (style of uniform) so extra pressure on their skin from that.

I'm so amazingly proud of them all. What a responsibly.

Also they had to carry her up the wheelchair ramp rather than the steps of St Giles, you could really see the strain in their faces as they were going ‘up hill’. The poor Lad at the front looked like he was going to burst a blood vessel.

But I agree, They all did a bloody amazing Job, both in Scotland and England.

MrsAvocet · 14/09/2022 22:42

CombatBarbie · 14/09/2022 22:18

I never suggested it wasn't, I don't recall seeing it as Prince Philips or Queen Mothers funeral that's all. It's certainly not something I was taught on weapon or funeral drill, but was beautiful to see.

I don't think they were officially State Funerals though were they? Only reigning monarchs get them in the UK. If I recall rightly the QM and PP's funerals were "ceremonial" rather than "state" so maybe not subject to exactly the same protocol?

Genvonklinkerhoffen · 14/09/2022 22:47

IIRC, the queen mother's carriage had an escort, not a guard of honour so they weren't armed & therefore can't reverse arms. Prince Phillip's funeral
didnt have a procession as such did it? Can't quite remember but a bespoke covid funeral.

ChimneyPot · 14/09/2022 22:49

As a young army cadet my uncle played a very visible role in JFKs funeral.
The first cadets back from leave that day were chosen.