ProclAmation on tv

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When the lady announced the Queen has died, felt quite emotional. I think that’s the official announcement.

it was lovely to see William guide Camilla as she entered the room.

It was a bit weird at the start to hear "Her Majesty The Queen" referring to someone other than QEII.

(She didn't say 'consort' and this is the most formal and historic bit so far, so it seems that adding that bit is optional)

Would it have been JRM if Boris was still PM??

Great to see a woman in that role. Penny M did very well I though. Elegant as well.

Liz Truss looks terrified.

They really need to get on with confirming the date, but I think it has to be Monday now that a Bank Holiday has been proclaimed

The placements of the 'instruments' and ink wells and the subsequent 'moment' were excruciating! All handled well though.

(My DP is left-handed and he practically writes upside down if he has to use an ink pen.)

Anyone else thinking that this would have been a nightmare during covid. Lots of people touching pens and lots of people cramped together

The organisation of getting this together within a matter of days is astonishing.

Yes, he was Johnson's Leader of the Commons and de facto chair of these sorts of proceedings, I think. It was Andrea Leadsome before that.

Now it's Penny Mordaunt.

They definitely needed a bigger desk!

I felt sorry for William having to use an ink pen left handed - he must have practised lots to avoid smudging it. I agree that he looked very serious and it must have been odd knowing he'd have to do this one day. It's not something that he (or anyone for that matter) would have seen before. I had no idea there was so much "approving" to be done.

Charles seemed to pause before signing Charles R. Must have been an odd moment.

It must be tough to have to do all this when you'd rather be grieving.

I enjoyed the tradition of it all.

DH was moaning that it must have cost loads in expenses for all these people to be there. But I feel that these traditions are so important in this country. I don't even know why, I just feel like they are. It's living history.

It's not like it's a regular expense (hopefully!)

The National Anthem brought a tear to my eye-the first time I had heard it as God Save the King- very strange!

Felt quite teary when they played the national anthem. All this pomp and ceremony that everyone else is enjoying but behind the scenes is a newly appointed King grieving, made me feel quite sad for him.

For such a formal ceremony it was very moving.

There have been so many jokes over the years about Charles wanting the queen to die so he can be king, but his real grief is clearly visible.

As an aside, I thought it was fascinating watching all the politicians chatting. The body language of Brown and Starmer was extraordinary, both had their arms firmly crossed, very defensive. But when Gordon Brown turned as was talking to Boris it was completely different, arms came down, he was gesturing expressively, animated and smiling. The most relaxed I've ever seen him.

As an aside, I thought it was fascinating watching all the politicians chatting.

I agree. I always think it's interesting to watch politicians and ex-politicians in environments where they aren't being combative.

Yes! I kept expecting someone to whip out the sanitiser. Remember how we were all told to take our own pens into the ballot booths if voting in person during the Covid restrictions?

I found it fascinating do they elect members to do these ceremonies or are they chosen ? Oh I was using subtitles and the typist had Queen then had to delete and type King on the national anthem !

It was absolutely fascinating and very moving.
Charles is coming across very well. It’s really nice to see.

It just all so surreal a King I mean we all knew it was going to happen but I still can't get my head round it.

As a political nerd who has loved following the constitutional bollocks over the last few years, I've loved this morning.

Im not a royalist nor am I into pomp and ceremony as a rule but this was dead interesting.

Definitely interesting to hear how the language is so focused in ensuring that the rightful heir is accepted by everyone to demonstrate seamless transition of power and stability. All about making it clear to other nations and internal usurpers that it isn't the opportune moment to attack it might seem to be!

Didn't know William was left-handed but disappointed to see he's another who makes it look so awkward. We used ink pens at school and at home. I never had to do that weird curled up claw action.

I also found this surprisingly fascinating- all the little things that were planned and ALL the pens!

This is why we have the royals still! For this pomp and ceremony!

It's whilst a deeply significant, sad/ joyous time also one big show/production for the rest of the world.

the king switched to his own pen for the 2nd set- so it was clearly it had to be signed with that pen and ink dip in a quilled pen. The second set in tray was I think for William…as a fellow lefty we know we can’t write well with a quilled nob- because we push the pen the nib drags rather than is drawn and tears at fibres leaving blurring and slightly smudgy writing. So he didn’t use the one that required the ink pot dip.

William will have learnt lesson for his time- just let them bring their own pens🤣🤣🤷🏼‍♀️

Quilled nob 😱🤣🤣🤣quilled nib

I watched it with DD - she absolutely loved the history of it - all the proclamations and how the process happens like it did in the 17th century because citizens wouldn't have know until the news spread through them and the seals approved until there are new ones in place.