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Help! GCSE Paper Re-Mark advice

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honeydue3 · 28/08/2022 15:02

Hi, Has anyone had any luck going up a grade in their GCSE after a re-mark/check? My son is missing 3 marks off a higher grade in Maths and 4 marks in English.

My DS is feeling down as now he has to change 2 of his A Level choices. he did well in his other subjects - 6 and 7s but he needs the 6 for Maths and English.
We are also applying for retakes in November but not sure how successful that will be as he will be studying his other subjects.....any advice very welcome.
One very stressed Mummy!!

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LIZS · 15/09/2022 19:12

If the reviewer felt the marking was within the same band then the overall grade will stand. If English language was 1 mark out was it Literature which was 4 below? Have you looked at each paper?

MrsHamlet · 15/09/2022 19:19

If the reviewer judged that the marks were reasonable, they stand. If you disagree, you can appeal.

WombatChocolate · 15/09/2022 19:47

There has to be ‘tolerance’. So it is right that if the first examiner marked an answer in the correct band (and for non-teachers, that’s not a grade, but a band for that particular question - the more marks an individual Q is worth, the more bands it has. Long essays for example tend to have 5 bands) then that should stand. Essentially the band is the tolerance.

However, what sometimes emerges is that someone hasn’t chosen the right band and the answer is out of tolerance. When this happens, that question is essentially remarked. In subjects where there are lots of low mark Qs, there’s more scope to be out of tolerance and therefore more questions where the mark might go up. In an A Level essay subject with perhaps just 3 Qs on a paper, each Q might be worth a large number of marks, so the bands are broader and there’s more scope for differences of view, which remain within tolerance and won’t result in a change of mark. It could be said that there’s an inequity between subjects because of this, and humanities have more scope for less papers to see a change in mark or grade following review than subjects with lots of shorter answers. That doesn’t seem right, but I can see why the system exists as it does. A level of ‘tolerance’ has always existed when examiners are being moderated, at every stage and it is necessary.

What remains worrying, is that lots of papers do still need to go up and marks and possibly grades changed, due to marking which is out of tolerance and sometimes signs a toy so. As is reported here, one person saw 19 students rise in one centre…and that’s before we have even reached the deadline for requesting remarks. It’s not uncommon for a school to have at least 1 subject at A Level or GCSE experiencing significant numbers of upgrades following requests for scripts where marks have been anomalous between papers or significantly out of kilter with expectations, or where the rank order of a cohort is significantly different to expectation. It’s not an infrequent experience for schools.

At what point is an examiners entire set of marking looked at? Is there a level of review which finds their marking incorrect that prompts this? Because when a centre has multiple reviews resulting in significant grade changes in a subject, surely alarm bells should ring. Or is it that the Board will only look at papers if the centre has requested it…and those that remain silent just have to put up with the marks that the Board knows are in all liklihood incorrect, given the amount that have already emerged as incorrect and out of tolerance? That is where the system is wrong and encouraging and supporting inequality.

It’s not good enough to say schools need to look at the breakdown of results and get scripts and talk to parents. Even with this, some students are disadvantaged by the system because their parents and school cannot afford to put in for a review, or simply don’t understand or value the possible outcomes. If the Board puts all the onus onto schools and families, rather than actively engaging with addressing and reviewing all of the marking of examiners who have come to light in the review process as inaccurate markers, it is essentially turning a blind eye to it and allowing the inequalities in education to carry on.

If we were to look at the proportion of students on FSM having their papers reviewed or grades changed, it would be lower than the average. If we looked at those in fee paying schools it would be above average. And the system is not facilitating improving that situation, but it’s very nature allows this to continue and even grow.

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honeydue3 · 15/09/2022 23:54

@MrsHamlet
How likely would we win an appeal? have any been successful this year?

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honeydue3 · 16/09/2022 00:04

@WombatChocolate Very interesting. What do they look for in an appeal then?

My DS year in English mostly had lower than expected grades which teachers thought probably down to AQA being too harsh with the mark scheme or not considering the impact of the last two years. What do we do in that situation?

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MrsHamlet · 16/09/2022 06:50

@honeydue3 It depends how wrong the marking is. I assume that someone with experience has looked at the papers in school to advise a review and that they believe the outcome of the review is wrong.
I've not been involved in appeals this year so far so I don't know what your chances are.

MrsHamlet · 16/09/2022 07:11

My DS year in English mostly had lower than expected grades which teachers thought probably down to AQA being too harsh with the mark scheme or not considering the impact of the last two years. What do we do in that situation?

I think you have some problems here. The teachers "thought" the grades were "probably too harsh". The review will have looked at the application of the mark scheme. If the marks were reasonable, they stand. It sounds to me like the centre was taking a punt rather than thinking there was evidence which would justify a grade change. I also wonder whether the centre really understood that it was a review, rather than a remark. There is a difference, and if the centre thought a review would look for and award a couple of extra marks, rather than thinking the mark was unreasonable, they have muddied the waters for you.

The awarding bodies "considered the impact of the last two years" in the advanced information and in the setting of the grade boundaries as per their instructions from OFQUAL. That couldn't be accounted for in the marking at paper level. It was never intended to be.

Appeals are possible: www.aqa.org.uk/exams-administration/after-results/post-results/appeals

You have 30 days from the date on which you received the review result in which to appeal but there are specific grounds on which you can appeal. You can see them on that page.

surreygirl1987 · 16/09/2022 17:48

My DS year in English mostly had lower than expected grades which teachers thought probably down to AQA being too harsh with the mark scheme or not considering the impact of the last two years. What do we do in that situation?

No. Examiners are supposed to be using the mark scheme exactly the same way as usual. It's grade boundaries that are changing as a result of covid, not application of the mark scheme. And schools didn't know what grade boundaries were going to be this year.

Livinghappy · 17/09/2022 17:30

@honeydue3, As others said, it seems your school may have been more challenged. The fact that the teachers mentioned "not taking account of the last 2 years" seems like an excuse. It was made very clear what would be examined (to recognise Covid disruptions) and most schools provided clear guidance to children and parents. Do you feel you weren't aware of this?

Nellle · 21/10/2022 17:22

If anyone is still following this thread I thought I'd update as my school has FINALLY got all their reviews back.

In GCSE English Language 28 students went up a grade, in English Literature 21 went up a grade. Dozens going up looks typical across other subjects. We sent off hundreds. No one went down a grade.

So, call it a review or a remark or whatever you like - it is 100% worth it, for students and schools (provided boundaries are carefully looked at before sending off off course).

Joanne200019 · 21/10/2022 18:27

My child’s English language went up 11 marks and 2 grades! It does really worry me that errors like this occur, not so much for GCSEs but so many students must miss out on uni places.

Thatladywithacat · 21/10/2022 19:17

Put in for three GCSE subject reviews and two out of the three went up a grade. Delighted but astonished too.

Hate to think how many children had parents who couldn't afford to pay for paper reviews and so were stuck with incorrectly marked grades.

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