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Juicesausagecake · 2022-08-28T08:20:27+00:00

DH has been registered on the register of foreign births. He was born in Britain but his family are Irish. I am British. We have since had two dc. Can anyone help me understand what I might need to do to get dc Irish citizenship?

expectantmammy · 03/12/2022 08:48

Notanotherusername4321 · 02/12/2022 23:12

I do, they considered those rules back in 1956 though, your point is moot, anyone who was genuinly wanting to become irish would have done it long before now

because my Irish born parent died when I was very young, I had no idea I automatically had citizenship, or that my kids were eligible. It was due to brexit and the discussion around it that I realised I had dual citizenship.

had I known I would have done it years ago.

many countries have citizenship by descent laws. It benefits the country as much as the individual.

Also to add if people where that unhappy about brexit then they could move to Ireland now or have moved to any of the other 26 EU MS during the 5 years they had the chance.

Now people are just looking invisabity cloaks, weather that be irish grannies or special "mini" deals with Spain ect, this is all of course typical brit exceptionalism where they screw up their own country and expect everyone else to dish out the quick fix.

Deedippy · 03/12/2022 09:52

Hey. Sorry to go off track a bit but just wondering if anyone knows if I have to register DD on the foreign born register. Her dad was born in Ireland and has an Irish passport, only moved over to england as an adult for work reasons. My understanding was I wouldn't and could just apply with her dad's long birth certificate? Does this sound right? Also anyone know rough waiting times for first Irish passport at the moment. Thanks

Brighteyedtriangle · 03/12/2022 09:56

Is this the same if a parent was born in Northern Ireland?

bellinisurge · 03/12/2022 09:58

@Deedippy - as long as you can prove a link to an Irish born grandparent it's straightforward. I did it a couple of years ago. Doing it through a woman is more tricky because you need marriage certs to prove name changes ( we had this). The queues are now long but I found the process efficient .

bellinisurge · 03/12/2022 09:58

@Brighteyedtriangle yes

bellinisurge · 03/12/2022 10:07

Once you are on the Foreign birth register its relatively easy to progress a passport application. Slow. But easy.

Dd is now on the Foreign Birth Register. We aren't resident in Ireland but my understanding is that, should she have a child, she would have to get that child on the register before birth for that child to also be an Irish citizen. Obviously the rules might change by the time she is in that situation, should she be.

Deedippy · 03/12/2022 10:11

bellinisurge · 03/12/2022 09:58

@Deedippy - as long as you can prove a link to an Irish born grandparent it's straightforward. I did it a couple of years ago. Doing it through a woman is more tricky because you need marriage certs to prove name changes ( we had this). The queues are now long but I found the process efficient .

That's great. Both paternal grandparents born in Ireland and still there along with all our extended family. As dad was born in Ireland and lived there until late 20s and only has an Irish passport do we still need grandparent proof. I know mil will happily provide anything we need so not an issue. We are over in a few weeks so just want to try and get everything done and signed then. Thanks

Deedippy · 03/12/2022 10:16

Just had another Google and back to thinking as dad was born in Ireland we don't need to do the foreign births register. Which is good as it says current processing time is currently 2 years!!!

FirstFallopians · 03/12/2022 10:34

Farmageddon · 02/12/2022 23:37

I for one would like us to a referendum on it, especially to remove the grandparent clause.

Most other countries don't have that, it was enacted decades ago it harks back to the days of mass emigration really.

If people want to become citizens through their parents, that's one thing, or coming to live here and contribute and make a life, but passing it down through the generations so you can go on holiday easier really frustrates me - it's totally taking the piss.

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Same.

I find it difficult to articulate how it feels seeing people clamour for a tenuous relationship to the country purely for their own convenience, despite these rules having existed for over sixty years.

I have three U.K. brother-in-laws who have moved over here to take up jobs, rare their families and contribute to our local communities. None of them are entitled to citizenship through family, instead they’ll have to go through the long and expensive process of naturalisation. Galling.

Notanotherusername4321 · 03/12/2022 11:06

Doing it through a woman is more tricky because you need marriage certs to prove name changes ( we had this)

not if you didn’t change your name. Another reason I am very glad I chose not to.

expectantmammy · 03/12/2022 11:07

FirstFallopians · 03/12/2022 10:34

Same.

I find it difficult to articulate how it feels seeing people clamour for a tenuous relationship to the country purely for their own convenience, despite these rules having existed for over sixty years.

I have three U.K. brother-in-laws who have moved over here to take up jobs, rare their families and contribute to our local communities. None of them are entitled to citizenship through family, instead they’ll have to go through the long and expensive process of naturalisation. Galling.

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Those rules where created at a time Ireland was suffering the impact of mass emigration and at the time it was thought it would of helped bring back at least some of the lost population, it was more targeted at the non UK based irish diaspora to enable them to return as brits have never needed to be given that right.

Ireland today however is now a country of immigration and its population is nearly at pre famine levels, there is a massive timelag in Irish Citizenship Laws which are no longer fit for purpouse, Irish citizenship is now being used nothing more than a travel pass for Londoners to beat schengen border queues.

Rushingfool · 03/12/2022 11:14

My grandfather was born in Ireland, but his child, my parent, was not. My parent is still alive and does not have Irish citizenship so I understood that I could not apply? Is that correct?

Coraline353 · 03/12/2022 11:18

Deedippy · 03/12/2022 10:16

Just had another Google and back to thinking as dad was born in Ireland we don't need to do the foreign births register. Which is good as it says current processing time is currently 2 years!!!

Yep. This is right. I'm Irish and moved to UK in my twenties. My DC have Irish passports without having to be on foreign births register or anything about grandparents. I sent my long form birth cert and I had to get various bits of ID verified I think but was all pretty straightforward.

Notanotherusername4321 · 03/12/2022 11:56

Rushingfool · 03/12/2022 11:14

My grandfather was born in Ireland, but his child, my parent, was not. My parent is still alive and does not have Irish citizenship so I understood that I could not apply? Is that correct?

No.

if your Grandfather was born in ireland his children are automatically irish citizens.

as the child of an Irish citizen not born in Ireland you are eligible to apply for citizenship via the Foreign Birth Register.

and children born after you are accepted on to the FBR will also be eligible, any children born after will not.

DamnUserName21 · 11/12/2022 15:42

@Deedippy

Your child is automatically an Irish citizen as her dad was born in Ireland before 2005. All you need to do is apply for a passport with long form BC and will likely need Dad's birth cert

www.dfa.ie/citizenship/#:~:text=Am%20I%20an%20Irish%20citizen,making%20an%20application%20for%20citizenship.