Collapse of normal life

[OldPot]

It feels to me that this is what is beginning to happen. Spiralling bills that surely only the well off can pay, shortages of things we all took for granted (2 of my mum's regular medications are out of stock, no chemicals for the local swimming pool, things opening for a few hours instead of all day (post office, banks etc), NHS on its knees, many other services just not running as they should). Plus the sodding infernal heat and drought this summer.....

And yes I know we are luckier here in the UK than many, many others countries.....but I just feel there is no turning back to life pre-covid.

You don't know the future and thats where you went wrong on the Ukraine thread, though not been on them for last couple of months, too depressing.

If the issues the UK have are not happening or not to the same extent in the EU, then might be sensible to ask why, rather than prep for Armageddon.

We can have a bright future but we do need differnt Govt, the Tories could do it but not unless they move away from their far right policies.

If it has anything to do with Brexit then other European countries would be doing well and we would be the ones that are alone in a bad position. But other European countries are in as bad or worse state than us

They are not, thats just another Leave.eu lie.
UK growth is the lowest in G7 and 19th in G20, UK has seen the highest energy costs in all of Europe (Germany 23%, France 4% & the UK ? 250%) and we have done the least to help with fuel costs too.

We had one of the highest % of flights cancelled, highest number of HGV shortages and have slaughtered 100s of '000s of animals because EU workers went home.

Brexit was taken by EU as a big Fuck OFF, so it shouldn't be a surprise they took us at our word, aided by Bojo's damaging trade deal.

As for the rubbish about Blair making nurses redundant because of no degree? yet more rubbish, under the Tories we have 110k NHS vacancies.

Brexit is like smoking 20 fags a day when you have arthritis. Yes, smoking didn't necessarily cause arthritis but it makes everything in the body worse like the cough you can't shake off, the fact you smell terrible and you may a higher chance of getting lung cancer or a heart attack down the line. It permeates shitness like the writing in a stick of Blackpool Rock and has polluted and degraded our politics like nothing else I can remember in my 61 years.

But other European countries are in as bad or worse state than us

do you have evidence for this?

Yes I’m surprised even a WW doesn’t feature

70s too

@bringonthesunshinefinally

Agreed. Old poor simply aren’t shitting themselves over this. It is the new poor.

Yes, I noticed that! That's the thing someone on 90ks 'no luxuries' is very different to someone on a low income's 'no luxuries'!

This Thread is funny and sad in equal measure with all the people saying it's just a cycle, ignoring the elephant in the room which is the climate crisis.
It is ending. All of it.
You know it. I know it.

It is ending. All of it.
You know it. I know it.

What is ending? 🤔

Typical Mn hyperbole.

Prince Andrew was a brave helicopter pilot in the Falklands

He was a helicopter pilot who did one inspection flight a day and spent the rest of his time in an offshore mess well out of the danger zone. My bloke, on the other hand, was in a fox hole being bombed and shot at. Mine doesn’t think of himself as a hero, he was doing his job.

I am entitled to post out incorrect facts. I think you started to derail it by throwing the ‘royal worshipper’ comment out which as I have pointed out was also incorrect.

I guess we have a different interpretation of facts....

I don't think Brexit is the cause of our fiscal woes. When M Thatcher was in gov she chose to move us to banking and financial services for the world rather than heavy industries. This was very successful for a few decades. - unfortunately no one took into consideration themaipulative corrupt ways of individuals and the banking crises in 2008 caused mayhem here and in the Us.
The US has oil, gas etc and recovered.
We don't and the tax payer had to bail out the banks whilst bankers got off with it.
We have not recovered from that despite cutting public services etc. Then we had covid.

I agree that climate change is definitely still getting the ostrich treatment and puts all our other problems into perspective.

I am not sure I would phrase it the way you have, as you make it sound like the whole thing will end rapidly - but certainly we are entering a massively uncertain future.

@Blossomtoes thanks - noted for future reference. 😀

I blame him for being so crap that no one will vote for him.

The Tories have made so many mistakes, and been so incompetent over the last few years but still he cant capitalize on this.

Hes useless

@Qik

It pains me that every August bank holiday I sit with relatives who are in complete denial of where this country is heading. They do not question anything. It is easier to read the Daily Mail simply because it doesn’t tax the grey matter.

I would say 90% of the UK "do not tax the grey matter" unless they have to. Unless things start to directly affect themselves or friends.

I always find it curious.
Especially when things have been made so easy to find things out nowadays.

Where are you living @ofHardey ?

Gneuinely interested to know.

opps, wrong quote.

this quote.

@lightand I've already mentioned it in my post. South Manchester.

I remember back in 89 my dad telling me about the hole in the ozone layer and the fact the planet was warming up and we were all going to be fried alive. Terrified I was! All those years on I've realised it wasn't going to happen in my lifetime.

I no longer worry about it, at all. there's literally nothing I could do about it anyway, and I'm unsure even if we all did every single thing we could to slow down inevitable climate change how much of an impact that would actually have anyway?

Anyone know? I don't think anyone does.

The ozone layer is recovering.

No she includes the war - whilst not in London her local area was bombed - I think she felt they could pull together and work their way through it, when lives were lost it was awful but she felt we were fighting for a good reason. People dying of poverty is not such a good reason in her eyes.
She was thrifty and worked hard and did as she ‘should’ - now she’s paying out more than she has coming in, worrying about bill increases and worrying about the huge numbers of people she understands will be in fuel and food poverty despite working and trying.
In the 70s she despised baking bread and strikes, though not walking when buses stopped, but heavily blamed unions for wanting more and again believed if you worked and weren’t profligate you would get through and it’s not your right just to have - and she did what she believed in, along with my father. Now she is seeing that isn’t necessarily the case as she knows and hears of people working and still not surviving, which she considers appalling. She has carers and knows what they earn and price of rent/fuel/food and is sad that despite all their work they are struggling so much without much hope of improvement.
She is a big Tory voter but disappointed in recent shift to career politicians (and other recent stuff) so no longer thinks - as she used to - Tories will sort the economy so that’s another longer term worry.
She thinks it’s possibly like the 1920s which her own parents talked of, but generally thinks it’s worrying and appalling more so as she can’t envisage a way out.

COP26 Executive Summary based on thousands of climate researchers and governments they might have an idea and your dad was right.

www.theccc.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/COP26-Key-outcomes-and-next-steps-for-the-UK-Final.pdf

The NHS wasn’t on its knees in the first decade of this century.

Mr Choldmey -Warner the real one explains...sounds good...