How do you pronounce finger and singer?

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www.theguardian.com/science/2022/jul/31/north-south-english-dialects-language-pronunciation-study

"Whether someone pronounces the “g” in “finger” and “singer” is another key dialect marker, with a silent “g” in singer now the most common form.In the 1950s, speakers who articulated the “g” in both words were mainly in the north-west of England and the West Midlands, but the new survey found that this pronunciation is spreading beyond its traditional limits, into Herefordshire, Preston, the Ribble valley and Nottinghamshire"

I think I pronounce it 'fin / ger' and 'sin / er'

I don't think the 'g' is silent when I pronounce it.

Unless I am missing something - is there a form of a silent 'g' in these words?

Uh? Why?

I pronounce all G's - have Lancashire roots but my first accent was N. Irish so I'm not sure where it comes from.

For me it's:

fing-ger
sing-er

but these threads are always full of people who act like they've never heard an accent other than their own before and can't imagine words being pronounced differently.

I'm from NW England and pronounce the g in singer, linger, finger and ringer. For me they all rhyme just as ring and sing do.

Both the same.
Like fin-geh
and sin-geh
I'm so confused by this thread. I'm from Yorkshire but have lived all over and struggling to think of anyone saying them differently to this or from each other???

I have lived in four English speaking countries and have always heard fing-ger and sing-er.

Do you genuinely not hear the difference between fing-ger and sing-er?

@RenegadeMatron no, not even slightly!

Only parts of England would say those two words to rhyme. Everybody else says Fing gurr, but sing er

Fing ger

Sing er

Finger with a hard G as in gate.

Singer, as sing (as in wing or ring) with the er added.
I’m in the SE.

Lost here in NW

I'm pretty sure I say fin ger and sin ger.

No idea how anyone would be saying them to sound differently, and what the heck this fing ger thing is surely you're not saying fingger

South East here and I pronounce singer to rhyme with sinner, it’s just got an ‘ng’ in the middle. Singer also rhymes with minger.

But…finger rhymes with linger.

NW.

Both sound the same when I pronounce them.

Ah yes the great north vs south war again.

Im southern so pronounce it sing-er. The hard G makes me irrationally angry but I understand that my own problem.

I say fin-ger but sing-er if that makes sense.

SwelegantParty · Today 17:16
Finger, singer, linger, ringer, winger - all the same to me. I can't imagine how else you'd say them! I'm in south Lancashire

finger, linger both hard hard g for me
all the others have a very very soft (barely there) g. My tongue is in a slightly different position to differentiate between singer and sinner.

From the south east.

Well in this case, it's the North of England versus rest of English speaking world! so it's not really an north / south thing

Finger and singer sound exactly the same to me.

I’m originally from Birmingham and spending my early years there plus having a Brummie parents explains a lot of my pronunciation issues I think.

Three and free are said exactly the same by me as well and I know that’s not right but I can’t hear the difference let alone pronounce it🤣

I think it's easier if you focus only on the second syllable of the words.
It's ger with a g sound in finger or linger.
But er (no g sound) in the second syllable of singer or winger.
Well, in my accent anyway.

Oh clearly I'm just a pleb then.

People have different tongues, dialects and accents. It's no big deal. I'm just genuinely struggling to imagine how else it could sound, that's all.

The next time the Masked Singer is one, I am going to have to listen to how people say it.

fɪŋə
sɪʔə

Basically I pronounce the ng in fing(uh) but in singer I tend to make more of a glottal stop instead of the ng sound (my phonetics lecturer would probably kill me for those transcriptions)

It's amusing the media has picked up on that angle - it's usually much more the vowel sounds that make the difference with accents - see the other talk in that article about strut/boot and if they rhyme or not.

Accent? Some accents pronounce the 'r' in words and some accents use an unstressed syllable (the technical term is a 'schwa').
This video has some examples in a particular British accent: