Fly tipping - just why!?

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Popped down stairs to take my rubbish out to find a whole load of someone else's rubbish has been dumped where our wheelie bins are kept. Mostly DIY rubbish from what I can see but also old pizza boxes, deodorant cans etc. I'm so annoyed!

I've reported it to the council but I know they're going to say as it's on private property they won't do anything. So it'll be left to muggins here to deal with.

I know when it happened as I heard some wheelie bins being moved about 11pm Sunday night but my neighbours nephew quite often comes and sorts her rubbish out and I assumed it was him.

At what point to people think, oh I'll just take my stinking rubbish and dump it next to someone's house!!

When the councils started making it more and more difficult to either have rubbish taken away, or to get to the tip (vans not usually allowed, for example).
Then many councils collect rubbish less often.
Then people on FB will pay people to pick up their rubbish - so chancers take the money and don't have a waste licence so dump it somewhere.

I'm not condoning any of this of course, just answering your question.

The amount that's been dumped would fit in the back of a car but yes the council do make it difficult. Although I also think it'd partly down to some people just not giving a shit. My neighbours are constantly filling their recycling with general waste which of course doesn't get emptied.

I live on a road full of students. When they move out, they just leave anything they don't want on the street. This makes me rage. I thought this generation was meant to care about the planet! This photo is my street, and the other one is the park. Some people are just very selfish.

To get a large item picked up by the council takes weeks and weeks. Leave an old mattress on a street corner and it is picked up within 24 hours. It's not right, but that is why people do it.

Where I live you have to make ‘an appointment’ to use the tip. You have to have the right sticker in your car as we can’t use all the local tips only the one specified to us -they don’t all take general rubbish
so if you appear at ‘your’ tip with the ‘wrong type’ of rubbish your stuck with it
also if the workers there suspect you are a tradesperson you’ll get turned away if you don’t have the right paperwork

my sister ( with a normal family car and her disabled child in tow) got questioned quite aggressively about whether she was a tradesperson or not quite recently- they let her tip her rubbish but they weren’t happy

the council then wonder why people fly tip

certainly is a mystery

Appointment needed at our tip and can only go on certain days depending on the reg of your car. Then it's 27 quid for them to pick up 7 items, minus white goods which cost a lot more. Then you have to keep what's being picked up in your house so it doesn't get wet and put it out the morning of collection.

It's a hassle and a fair few people do follow it but some can't be arsed.

In Germany you go to your Rathaus, pick up a form, fill it in with what sort of stuff you want to throw out, send it off, 2 weeks later they send you a date on which you put everything to throw out in front of your house then the council comes and takes it away, for free. You can have 2 of these a year. Of course you get people helping themselves to stuff, I watched my neighbours take my other neighbours perfectly good barbeque.

Plus it’s very expensive for a collection. We get one ‘free’ one per year but the majority of items have a surcharge.

Im sure it would be more cost effective to have more free collections or weeks when different streets could leave their junk outside. A fair chunk of it would be gone by the time the council turned up anyway - anything metal is gone by the time you shut your front door.

Sheer laziness. Yes it's a hassle to dispose of large items but it's your responsibility and like everyone you just have to do it (or you should do).

Because it costs money is the simple answer. Trades need a licence to take stuff to the tip. A lot of people don't know that it is their responsibility to check the person they are paying to take away their rubbish is licensed. Worse than the person who's dumped stuff by your bins are the criminals who take householders' money and dump stuff in the countryside, by the roadside, etc.

That's appalling. The landlords of these places need to take some responsibility. They are making money out of constantly turning over student tenants every year, causing annual misery to other residents.

That sounds like an enormous faff!

Worse than the person who's dumped stuff by your bins are the criminals who take householders' money and dump stuff in the countryside, by the roadside, etc.

Yes, that’s what’s behind a lot of the flytipping near me. Householders use these services in good faith, and then the tippers scalp all the eBay-able stuff and dump the rest.

@IglesiasPiggl - sounds very German to me. Brits are by and large less compliant and will look for a way to achieve the same end in a way that suits them.

It's very, very easy to use our closest tip (it's one of the few things out district council is any good at...) They take almost everything, you don't need proof of residency and you only have a problem if you have a pickup, truck or loads of hardcore. You just turn up (open decent hours, 5 days a week, including weekends).

And despite this, the amount of domestic crap that gets left on narrow lanes or in field gateways is incredible. No excuse for it.

People are lazy fuckers.

I wage a constant war about rubbish primarily with the tenants my fellow leaseholders see fit to install in their buy to let investments.

There are blocks locally where there aren’t interested residents that have bin stores so full of stuff the bins don’t even fit in.

anytime I’ve directly challenged someone about why they thought it was ok to dump their unwanted furniture in our bin store (there are clear notices saying not to do so) it’s been because THEY wanted it out of their flat with fuck all concern that the rest of us didn’t want it cluttering up the common parts.

As someone who spent Christmas 2021 with two sofas in my small flat as I forgot to tick the box for removal of the old one when I ordered the new one it makes me furious that people are so selfish!

As a block we now charge the property owners for the time taken to review the CCTV, identify the dumpers and the cost of removing it. This is all allowed under the lease. Several landlords leaseholders have had to pay out >£300 and they are definitely getting better at ensuring their tenants know how to dispose of bulky items!

One tenant pulled the rubbish stunt, was constitutionally incapable of parking in his allocated parking space (despite being told +++ times that he had to park in the space owned by his flat) and caused a load of noise nuisance. The landlord who got loads of messages from other aggrieved residents via the management agent then didn’t renew his rental contract. Tenant then came to tell me that it was all my fault he had to move.

Beggars belief.

Thid is not a cheap place to live. Bloke above was an accountant at a big 4 firm.

Can you find an address in the rubbish. I used to look at ripped rubbish as part of my job and I could ALWAYS find an address ( well, nearly always)

@Bananalanacake Doesn't your district have a bi-annual community collection? Mine does.
Everyone leaves all their unwanted stuff at designated convenient points, then the council come and take it all away the following day.

Because people are lazy selfish scum that don't give a shit about anything.
Pathetic excuses to say you have to make an appointment at the tip or pay for removal.

Thing is the majority of this is general waste dumped right next to general waste wheelie bins. Went to take a photo today and a fox must have been at it as it's all shredded and of course it had to leave its mark which i stood right in so thats infuriated me even further.
The tip here is no hassle. And literally 5 mins down the road from where I live.

It's like the discarded fast food wrappers that you see.
Whoever threw it was obviously in a vehicle, so why not just take it home and put it in the bin, rather than throwing it out of the vehicle window.
Infuriating laziness.

garlic twist
Tottenham?

In my old town you had to pay to use the tip , per item.
It wasn't cheap. I emailed them and said it would lead to an increase in fly tiling ,apparently not what a load of crap.

This.

I am very lucky and live in a city with great waste collection services and I think that makes all the difference. Here if I want to I can have 5 large/bulky items collected by the council free of charge from my home every 2 months. If I need something picking up in the interim then it's £5 for collection. Bins are emptied weekly and we have a wheelie bin for non-recyclable and then as many bags of recycling collected as we can fill.
For £40 a year we can have a garden waste bin that's emptied every fortnight.

Making waste removal cheap and easy helps to prevent fly tipping.