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Advice needed regarding child welfare check

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Pondle · 09/07/2022 20:10

I'm having such anxiety and need some advice about what to expect.

(Name changed as I'm sure it will be outing to whoever did report me to the police)

Yesterday, a police officer came to our house because they had to check on the welfare of our children after receiving a report that I did not take appropriate action following an incident at a school fete.

The incident:
My 2yr old DS (who was a bit under the weather from recovering from flu-like illness) was crashed into, on a bouncy castle for his age, by a couple of 10yr old children. They caused him to roll off the bouncy castle. He did fall on his head. I immediately went up to him, checked him over and sat down right there to breastfeed him to comfort him.

He was okay. I was a little worried so I did ask for advice from a couple of family members who work as medical professionals and they both reassured me that he will likely be fine considering there was no bruising and the drop was small. I also checked via the NHS regarding concussion, again I was reassured he was okay. He wasn't showing any new symptoms that he hadn't had previously. So I didn't take him to A&E.

That was 2 weeks ago.

The police turned yesterday stating he had to check the welfare after someone reported me for neglect and not seeking medical help for a serious incident. He checked DS over for head injuries etc (ofc there's none). He attempted to tale a statement from my 2yr old and then interviewed my (suspected ADHD and ASD) 5yr old with speech issues and there were a serious of miscommunication that I wasn't able to correct.

He then took my statement. He did seem reasonably satisfied but said it may progress further.

I asked for clarity over what I'm meant to do... am I meant to take DS to A&E every time he falls over or gets punched by his older brother etc? Even of I don't think it's required? The police officer said yes as I'm not a medical professional.

I'm so worried. We already have social involvement due to DS1's behaviour being so extreme at school and the school have said a few times now that they are very concerned by how he causes others harm (before he started reception I did attempt to have discussions with them about his behaviour and how best to manage it but they refused to engage until he caused parents to make complaints).

Am I going to lose my kids? I get so terrified as my step sister lost her DS so I have seen it happen.

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Pondle · 09/07/2022 21:05

unless you’re leaving out something significant such as accident occurred because child was unsupervised and you didn’t notice for ages etc ... I was standing right there watching him, it was his first time on a bouncy castle and I was enjoying watching him having fun. Perhaps I should have told the older children to get off the bouncy castle when they jumped on but it was their school fete too and I didn't think they'd be that rough as they couldn't have really missed seeing that DS1 and 2 were on the castle.

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himyname · 09/07/2022 21:05

You said that they didn't mention that they'd been trying to get you the week you were on holiday but you also say there was a slip through your door asking you to contact the police which would suggest that they did try to contact you.

Pondle · 09/07/2022 21:08

I was actually the only adult "hovering" tbf, everyone else was relaxing on picnic mats nearby. Usually I'm not so close to the action but he is small for his age and has epilepsy so I wanted to keep an eye on him especially in that situation.

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Pondle · 09/07/2022 21:09

@himyname he said he left it there only 10 minutes previous, he was back at our door very quickly

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Perfect28 · 09/07/2022 21:12

The brother punches the 2 year old? You didn't call 111 for the incident?

NippyWoowoo · 09/07/2022 21:15

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PoisonedIvydaffs · 09/07/2022 21:15

Perfect28 · 09/07/2022 21:12

The brother punches the 2 year old? You didn't call 111 for the incident?

You expect her to call 111 if the 5 year old hits their sibling? 🙄

coolbottlesummer · 09/07/2022 21:19

some comments on here are bonkers. If my mum had to call 111 or whatever it was when I was young every time my brother and I had a spat she would have called 4/5 times a week. My brother threw me down the stairs, I knocked him off his bike. Siblings have spats all the time.

NippyWoowoo · 09/07/2022 21:21

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CanYouNotReadTheSign · 09/07/2022 21:27

Nope, none of this makes here.

Pondle · 09/07/2022 21:28

Honestly you're not even trying with what?

Thank you to the posters that are being helpful here and not just coming on here as troll hunters (I thought that wasn't allowed on MN?). I have NCed but I'm sure MN could easily verify I'm not the sort of OP to make up BS. Under another username I've received amazing support here on MN.

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Pondle · 09/07/2022 21:32

Anyway, so I'm taking from this that it was probably either the school or someone who hates BFing mums that reported us. And the general agreement is that I did do the right thing by not taking DS to A&E this time.

Although it seems like the majority of comments on here are saying I should take DS to A&E anytime he does get hurt, especially by his brother.

But I shouldn't worry as this is clearly unwarranted and as the 101 guy said there are "no concerns".

Thank you.

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Isaidnoalready · 09/07/2022 21:33

Im not so sure there are some clown police officers out there one memorable incident was when they contacted a lady to ask if her son was there as they were going to arrest him for an incident in town earlier that day (historically he was calmer around mum so this was normal for them to arrest him there) she said he wasn't involved they said he was its on cctv etc etc came over to arrest him she pointed out he had been sent to prison that morning she tried to tell them but they were adamant she let them search the house they were so sure riot van and police car wasted because they refused to check the system

NippyWoowoo · 09/07/2022 21:38

Pondle · 09/07/2022 21:28

Honestly you're not even trying with what?

Thank you to the posters that are being helpful here and not just coming on here as troll hunters (I thought that wasn't allowed on MN?). I have NCed but I'm sure MN could easily verify I'm not the sort of OP to make up BS. Under another username I've received amazing support here on MN.

I'm not troll hunting, you're repeatedly being asked to clarify your confusing posts and make it more confusing.

First you say the police arrived. Then (when someone asks you why they'd come so long after the incident) you say maybe they came while you were on holiday, you don't know.

Then you say you came home to a pink slip from the police and your first thought was that you'd been robbed but quick check of the house you just entered after your holiday looked fine.

Then you say you called them (so they didn't just arrive out for the blue, left that fact out of the OP).

Then (when someone points out that you did, in fact, get notice that they'd been) you say oh no he put that through 10 minutes before. Before what? Before you got home? How would that change the fact that you came home to the slip and thus knew they'd been?

kitcat15 · 09/07/2022 21:46

So if you are open to social care OP…..are they carrying out a C&F assessment?…..are you on Early Help?……are you open to a Child in Need Plan? …..or are your children on a Child Protection Plan?….. you should just contact your allocated Social Worker….they will know what’s what

Pondle · 09/07/2022 21:54

@NippyWoowoo it feels like you're making it unnecessarily confusing though. OP was already long so I was trying to keep it direct.

We came back from holiday to a police slip (idk where pink has come from? Did I mistype) with a note saying there had been an incident please phone us on this number and ask for officer X stating ref XYZ.

Initially we were worried we had been broken into or something (certainly never thought it be a welfare check!). So I phoned the number on the hand written slip and the guy said "ah I had only just popped that through 10 minutes ago, I'll be right over".

I missed all that out of the OP because if we had been home 10 minutes before then yes, he would have just shown up out of the blue.

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Pondle · 09/07/2022 21:59

If I'm honest I haven't a bloody clue @kitcat15 because we have the HV involved who is coordinating the referral which has now gone through with a supporting statement from the school (at last) and we are now on the waiting list. As well as this woman from the social that comes weekly and then there's some guy in the middle of the school and us too.

DS1 is being sought funding for proper 1 to 1 support next term and we have a meeting next week to discuss whether this school can provide what is required and what else might be needed to support DS1 (currently speech therapy is not helping at all etc).

I'm also not sure I'm comfortable discussing this level of detail of DS1 as this is out of the perimeter of the OP?

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NippyWoowoo · 09/07/2022 22:13

Pondle · 09/07/2022 21:54

@NippyWoowoo it feels like you're making it unnecessarily confusing though. OP was already long so I was trying to keep it direct.

We came back from holiday to a police slip (idk where pink has come from? Did I mistype) with a note saying there had been an incident please phone us on this number and ask for officer X stating ref XYZ.

Initially we were worried we had been broken into or something (certainly never thought it be a welfare check!). So I phoned the number on the hand written slip and the guy said "ah I had only just popped that through 10 minutes ago, I'll be right over".

I missed all that out of the OP because if we had been home 10 minutes before then yes, he would have just shown up out of the blue.

And this explanation makes it so much simpler. It seemed like you were adding on bits of information whenever a discrepancy was pointed out.

Only you know the chain of events, but it wasn't coming across clearly in the first few posts from the perspective of someone who wasn't there.

Dmc1809 · 19/05/2023 23:59

Question: if the police carried out a welfare check on my daughters home, can her ex request a copy of the report or do they just tell him they found no concerns. I'm in the UK

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