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Kemi Badenoch for PM please

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FungalNail · 09/07/2022 05:05

ecstatically pleased to hear Kemi Badenoch is running for PM! A breath of fresh air!

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PlanetNormal · 09/07/2022 11:46

I disagree with Kemi’s about Brexit, but I agree with everything she says in this article in today’s Times about identity politics, cancel culture and free speech :

”Too often people feel that whoever is elected, the answer is more government. By promising too much and trying to solve every problem, politicians don’t reassure and inspire, they disappoint and drive disillusion. More taxes. More rules and regulations. And ever cheaper borrowing to keep government afloat no matter the cost to savers or the wider economy.

Instead, we need strong but limited government focused on the essentials. Lower taxes yes, but to boost growth and productivity, and accompanied by tight spending discipline.

Meanwhile our country is falsely criticised as oppressive to minorities and immoral, because it enforces its own borders. We cannot maintain a cohesive nation state with the zero-sum identity politics we see today.

Exemplified by coercive control, the imposition of views, the shutting down of debate, the end of due process, identity politics is not about tolerance or individual rights but the very opposite of our crucial and enduring British values.

And if we are to see the change we need in this country we need an intellectual framework which recognises that in politics, there is no division between the cultural or economic sphere. It is no surprise the fiercest proclaimers of “social justice” usually believe in the power of government over the people, in the power of the bureaucrat over the individual, and have a distrust of people making their own decisions in the economic sphere just as much as the social.“

LadyWithLapdog · 09/07/2022 11:51

TBF I have no idea what she’s on about in that text. I can hear some buzz words but I don’t understand her meaning.

Abhannmor · 09/07/2022 11:58

So in short : Boris was great . He was brilliant during Covid . He got the vaccine. He did Brexit. But he's gone.
Vote for me. I want to cut spending so I can reduce taxes for people like me. 👍
But at least I believe in biology!
Covid hasn't gone away I know

AmaryIlis · 09/07/2022 12:00

DrDinosaur · 09/07/2022 11:10

I've no idea what her chances are, but Kemi Badenoch appears to be intelligent, logical and honest. She would be a great improvement on the over promoted white males who've had the job recently.

You did notice who the PM before Johnson was, didn't you?

FourTeaFallOut · 09/07/2022 12:01

FungalNail · 09/07/2022 06:47

She seems positioned centrally politics wise

She bloody isn't. Even a cursory glance at her economic sensibilities demonstrate that.

AmaryIlis · 09/07/2022 12:02

Is she actually officially on the ballot? Apparently each candidate is going to have to muster up 20 MPs to support them.

TullyApplebottom · 09/07/2022 12:02

Maireas · 09/07/2022 06:27

Indeed. They must think everyone on MN is a bit daft.

In fairness, there’s quite a lot of evidence to back that thesis up

Fenella123 · 09/07/2022 12:13

Had a quick look.
Pros: hard worker, not daft, numerate background, has done actual jobs, school governor
Cons: anti common market, may not have any gut understanding of what it's like to have no luck and no support in life.

Notonthestairs · 09/07/2022 12:14

So she was a Minister when they wanted to change the rules for Paterson, when they covered up the links to Russian money, parties in Downing Street and the subsequent blatant lies to Parliament, the protective ring around care homes, the dodgy VIP fast lane contracts for friends and families, donors forking out for wallpaper and holidays for her Leader as well as his cosy trips to the Lebedev's, the appointment of Pincher, the loss of 2 Ethics Advisors etc etc.

She's defended or stood by them all and you think she's a breath of fresh air?! Right you are.

LadyWithLapdog · 09/07/2022 12:14

@Abhannmor thanks for the explanation. I got the gist of it but it’s so over-written.
@TullyApplebottom 😂

LadyWithLapdog · 09/07/2022 12:16

When you put it like that, the claim to honesty is a bit … dishonest.

Wheretheskyisblue · 09/07/2022 12:27

DrDinosaur · 09/07/2022 11:10

I've no idea what her chances are, but Kemi Badenoch appears to be intelligent, logical and honest. She would be a great improvement on the over promoted white males who've had the job recently.

She doesn't sound very honest to me
news.sky.com/story/tory-vice-chair-kemi-badenoch-admits-hacking-labour-mps-website-11323056

pointythings · 09/07/2022 12:53

SHe's just another ultra free market Brexit drone who condoned everything Boris Johnson did. No thanks, we don't need more of the same. We need someone who will actually give a shit about the people struggling to stay afloat financially. Sadly, this person cannot ever be a Tory.

CactusFlowers · 09/07/2022 12:56

FungalNail · 09/07/2022 06:47

She seems positioned centrally politics wise

Does she bollocks.

DrDinosaur · 09/07/2022 16:45

Wheretheskyisblue · 09/07/2022 12:27

If the most dishonest thing she's done was a silly prank ten years ago (for which she has apologised, and been forgiven by the victim), I would say she's pretty honest.
I am actually impressed that she had the ability to hack the website - I would guess very few MPs had that level of understanding of technology.

Notonthestairs · 09/07/2022 16:49

Yes I like my MPs to be experienced in hacking.

She must have been 28/29 when she hacked Harman's account. Old enough to know better. I would have been sacked for that.

DrDinosaur · 09/07/2022 17:03

LadyWithLapdog · 09/07/2022 11:37

Clever as in born in privilege and made her way up to be able at age 42 to think of being PM.

Are we reading the same wikipedia page?

Her parents were both doctors, not billionaires. She moved to the UK when she was 16 because of the financial impact of political change in Nigeria on her family, and worked at MacDonald's while studying for her A levels at an FE College.

After she got her degree, she worked in proper jobs in software engineering, and achieved an LLB by studying part time.

She has made HER OWN WAY UP to be able to think of being PM at age 42. I think she's pretty impressive.

Suedomin · 09/07/2022 17:06

Why would she be a good PM? The article she wrote said she was against bland platitudes then went onto make a list of bland platitudes.
I don't see how she would be a breath of fresh air in anyway

Topseyt123 · 09/07/2022 17:20

Notonthestairs · 09/07/2022 12:14

So she was a Minister when they wanted to change the rules for Paterson, when they covered up the links to Russian money, parties in Downing Street and the subsequent blatant lies to Parliament, the protective ring around care homes, the dodgy VIP fast lane contracts for friends and families, donors forking out for wallpaper and holidays for her Leader as well as his cosy trips to the Lebedev's, the appointment of Pincher, the loss of 2 Ethics Advisors etc etc.

She's defended or stood by them all and you think she's a breath of fresh air?! Right you are.

All of this is very true, so OP might want to reflect a little before calling Kemi a breath of fresh air!!

Kemi is my MP. She isn't very well admired around here, but anything with a blue rosette will get into parliament in this constituency with a thumping majority.

She has been one of Boris's true arse-lickers since he became PM. It would be an absolute travesty if she were to become Prime Minister.

Breath of fresh air my arse!

Topseyt123 · 09/07/2022 17:31

Suedomin · 09/07/2022 17:06

Why would she be a good PM? The article she wrote said she was against bland platitudes then went onto make a list of bland platitudes.
I don't see how she would be a breath of fresh air in anyway

Bland platitudes is her style.

I wrote to her complaining about Dominic Cummings and his trip to Durham and Barnard's Castle at the start of the first lockdown, as did many people. All her reply said was that whilst she disagreed with what he had done, he had apologised now so that should be all there was to it.

She knows how to put herself across as very clever, and she isn't clownish like Boris, but calling her a breath of fresh air is rather a stretch.

donquixotedelamancha · 09/07/2022 19:08

She must have been 28/29 when she hacked Harman's account. Old enough to know better.

Oh come on, it was a prank. I actually think announcing Harman's defection was quite funny.

I don't agree with KB's politics at all but I think it's silly to attack her just because she's a Tory.

3WildOnes · 09/07/2022 19:31

I really dont think she is centrist. She believes in a small state, which usually means cutting services to the most vulnerable in society.

Sloebluewalls · 10/07/2022 00:39

donquixotedelamancha · 09/07/2022 19:08

She must have been 28/29 when she hacked Harman's account. Old enough to know better.

Oh come on, it was a prank. I actually think announcing Harman's defection was quite funny.

I don't agree with KB's politics at all but I think it's silly to attack her just because she's a Tory.

Yes it was a very daft prank but she clearly took responsibility for her poor behaviour. I’d much rather have a leader who is honest and open

Antarcticant · 10/07/2022 00:41

Yes, I was looking at the list of possibles and had Badenoch as one of the 'least worst' candidates. (not a Tory myself as you may gather).

LadyWithLapdog · 10/07/2022 07:40

It wasn’t a daft prank. Why are you minimising? It was a callous and criminal attempt by a fully grown woman to gain political advantage. Or at least I think hacking is a criminal activity. Or maybe not. Just a little past time Tories are allowed to indulge in.