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Landlord selling up and can't afford to rent elsewhere

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Freeasabird76 · 07/07/2022 23:09

Dont know the point of this post to be honest,just need to vent I think.
Have lived in this house with my 2 Dds for 5 years now and been very lucky with no rent increases,although the rent was a bit steep when j first moved in,it is now the cheapest in the whole area.
My landlords visited today to do an inspection and dropped the bombshell that they're selling up asap.
My dilemma is,equivalent homes are now £200 more than I'm paying now a month and at present only 2 available in whole area anyway.
How can if ve that I've lived here all my 46 years and now I can't afford a house here anymore.

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SheepingStandingUp · 08/07/2022 16:17

Have you thought about the fact that if the tenant takes that route it puts the LL in the exact same position? Not being able to sell the property, being in limbo, having rent costs of their own. of course it isn't great for anyone but unless the landlord is being repossessed, their not facing ending up on the streets. Why do you think it's OK to force a family into that for no reason of their own?

It's not okay to think that you're entitled to stay, if you've been given appropriate notice and can afford anywhere else. giving proper notice includes serving a section 21 and all the other stuff that comes after that, not just daily I need you out in a month or I'll change the locks. And I've said they should be making ever effort to find alt accommodation. No one is advocating staying there just to piss off the ll. But to stay put as long as you're legally entitled until you've found something else.

rwalker · 08/07/2022 16:33

Giltedge · 08/07/2022 13:39

Yes and living in my house, using my furniture, having me cover costs of repairs etc. The point being I'm fulfilling my responsibility as a LL and I'd expect the tenant to do the only thing they're required to do - pay & move out if I need to sell the property.

As I said, and to repeat; very philanthropic. Hmm
They're paying your mortgage.

There not paying anyones mortgage what they are paying for is accommodation .How the LL finance the property is none of the tenants business.

Rental will be the LL income and like all of us they have bills to pay .

lonelydad2022 · 08/07/2022 16:41

Freeasabird76 · 08/07/2022 12:46

I definitely do not want to go down eviction route as I've worked hard to always keep a very good credit score,I've contacted all local agents to be put forward for whatever comes up reasonably priced,I did apply for a house in next town this morning but don't fit the criteria.Been onto housing but do not get extra points until I'm served.phoned the local housing advice centre but because of backlog wont hear back for 10-12 days.

You don't get credit rating issues for being evicted. You only get problems with your credit rating if you don't pay the rent and the landlord take you to court to recover the unpaid rent. In that case, you will get a ccj if the judge order you to pay and you don't. My advice, keep paying your rent and let the landlord take you to court. It will be many months before repossession.

Giltedge · 08/07/2022 16:43

There [ ] not paying anyones mortgage what they are paying for is accommodation .How the LL finance the property is none of the tenants business.* * Rental will be the LL income and like all of us they have bills to pay

If there is a mortgage that is what the majority of the rent will be paying for. Generally speaking.

What I do find distasteful is the attitude, from some LL, that they're philanthropists and benefactors, when it's just a business transaction they're benefiting from.

SheepingStandingUp · 08/07/2022 16:48

@Freeasabird76 you're doing everything right. Register everywhere, try to move, don't make yourself homeless by leaving until you have somewhere secure.

Yes and living in my house paying to live there, using my furniture posting to use it

I'd give them plenty of notice but forcing someone to evict you and delaying the process is irresponsible. Finding cheaper housing even in a less favourable location is what you should do if you can afford it, it's basic common decency. IF being the word here. Op can't ask either had to wait for something cheap to come on the market or wait for social. She's got no chance of social unless you evict because it's priory based mostly because of s lack of stock vs demand. You're berating the y people in this work the least power

RedPlumbob · 08/07/2022 17:19

Yes, a duty - which is washy and consists of telling you to stay until your tenancy is legally ended either by yourself or by a Bailiff - which are the only two ways a tenancy can be legally ended. So yes, it is the law.

Perhaps you read up on that, rather than what councils should and shouldn’t do, especially as each one varies wildly, and it’s your job as a landlord to understand how the contract you signed can and cannot be broken. Unless you fancy a massive fine for breaking the law and possible jail time for harassment of your tenants, should you try and force them out illegally.

Tenants are sick of landlords bullshit, most don’t know even the basic laws and think we should lick their feet because they “gave us a home” - bore off, I’ve paid off huge chunks of other peoples mortgages my entire life, they mostly resent spending even a penny on repairs - and that’s why the Gov is changing things.

Thank the Scumlords, ill educated on even the basic laws, allowing people to live in slums and charging extortionate amounts for it.

I was in the top priority band, but I couldn’t make them give me what they hadn’t got - permanent or temporary housing is rammed and hotel hopping was all they could offer, despite my children’s medical teams losing their shit about that.

BMW6 · 08/07/2022 18:36

So you'll be happy when there are next to no private landlords then? Because that's the way it's going.

internetpersonme · 08/07/2022 18:39

BMW6 · 08/07/2022 18:36

So you'll be happy when there are next to no private landlords then? Because that's the way it's going.

That would be good

Giltedge · 08/07/2022 18:45

Thank the Scumlords, ill educated on even the basic laws, allowing people to live in slums and charging extortionate amounts for it.

My friend's house isn't a slum but the sheer number of repairs needed, she has to live with, is unacceptable.

Yes, I also think that would be good @BMW6

Lineala · 08/07/2022 18:47

internetpersonme · 08/07/2022 18:39

That would be good

@RedPlumbob prefers to blame landlords for this mess rather than the Tory government they most likely voted for.

I've done enough applications to court for LA breaches of the Housing Act to be fairly confident I know what I'm talking about 🤣

SheepingStandingUp · 08/07/2022 19:00

internetpersonme · 08/07/2022 18:39

That would be good

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SheepingStandingUp · 08/07/2022 19:01

SheepingStandingUp · 08/07/2022 19:00

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So all the landlords sell up. Even will the duo in prices that availability lots of people cannot afford to buy. Housing Assocs don't have enough stock. Now what?

missdemeanors · 08/07/2022 19:24

@lonelydad2022 you seem to be conveniently overlooking the point that it's not just about credit rating but needing a reference.

If I were letting a property, I'd want references from potential tenants' most recent LL detailing their experience. As would most people letting out a property. So advocating that a tenant remains in a property until they have literally been taken to court and forced out is 'fine' so long as they keep paying their rent is shit advice. You're basically encouraging tenants to never be able to rent anywhere decent again.

mummyh2016 · 08/07/2022 19:26

@internetpersonme okay so less private landlords mean less houses available for rent. Meaning it would push the price of the rents up on the ones that are left. Not sure if that's the answer do you?

Ballcactus · 08/07/2022 19:39

RedPlumbob · 08/07/2022 10:34

Selfish? So where do you expect tenants to go when they can’t find somewhere? Also, it’s the law and every landlord should be aware of that and plan for it, way ahead of needing to evict someone. If they aren’t aware, then they’re shit landlords who should never have been landlords in the first place.

Amen

Freeasabird76 · 08/07/2022 20:13

Hi@GlisteningGoldGrasses she already has a part time job but she is saving that towards driving lessons and uni,I wouldn't dream of taking that away from her as it's things i can help much financially with anyway.

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Freeasabird76 · 08/07/2022 20:14

Sorry it's meant to say I can't help with.

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Freeasabird76 · 08/07/2022 20:25

I in no way wanted to have a landlord bashing thread and certainly the last thing I want is to go down the eviction route.I'm just worried about the disruption to my children's schooling and all the uncertainty,I've already had my 10 year old in tears.
I had to go through the most rigorous of checks i've ever had to obtain this tenancy,I've always paid in advance,never caused a days trouble and said I wished to stay here indefinitely so very secure tenant.
I understand this is the optimal time for the landlords to sell to make the most profit,it just happens to be the absolute worst time to need a new rental.

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lonelydad2022 · 08/07/2022 20:34

missdemeanors · 08/07/2022 19:24

@lonelydad2022 you seem to be conveniently overlooking the point that it's not just about credit rating but needing a reference.

If I were letting a property, I'd want references from potential tenants' most recent LL detailing their experience. As would most people letting out a property. So advocating that a tenant remains in a property until they have literally been taken to court and forced out is 'fine' so long as they keep paying their rent is shit advice. You're basically encouraging tenants to never be able to rent anywhere decent again.

That is complete nonsense. The LL abuse their knowledge implying that the credit is affected when is a lie Some are bullies and abuse vulnerable people and students. There is nothing they can do if you dont go. If they want to recover the property in a reasonable time, they have to have a respectful conversation and work with your timings. If they don't give you a reference, you cant leave so they will put a stellar reference to see you go. I am sure you are a landlord. I have dealt with a lot of student landlord and stay agents to recognise the shameless tactics.

ClocksGoingBackwards · 08/07/2022 20:44

This thread is making me think I haven’t really been doing the right thing by refusing my estate agent every time they suggest an increase to the rent my tenants pay. It doesn’t make much sense to try and keep their rent as low as possible if their attitude is the same as so many on here and they’d expect me to spend a small fortune in going to court instead of leaving when they’re given notice that the tenancy has to end.

Discovereads · 08/07/2022 20:48

lonelydad2022 · 08/07/2022 16:41

You don't get credit rating issues for being evicted. You only get problems with your credit rating if you don't pay the rent and the landlord take you to court to recover the unpaid rent. In that case, you will get a ccj if the judge order you to pay and you don't. My advice, keep paying your rent and let the landlord take you to court. It will be many months before repossession.

But only if you’re prepared to pay the LLs court costs. Staying beyond the expiration of a S21 and forcing the LL to get a PO from the court (which btw is now an expedited PO that takes 2-4wks) means the court will also order the tenant to pay the LLs court costs. Not good advice if you’re already financially struggling. It’s why OP should call her LA, you’re considered at risk of homelessness in my LA if served a S21 and within 4 weeks of the eviction date.

(I’m being evicted too with a S21, only difference is my DH is an immigrant and so if I do end up being housed by the LA, he will be deported).

lonelydad2022 · 08/07/2022 20:53

I tell you my experience with my children student landlords. They lie and try to dictate conditions and are intransigent until someone reminds them about the actual law. It's a business after all. Follow the rules.

lonelydad2022 · 08/07/2022 20:54

ClocksGoingBackwards · 08/07/2022 20:44

This thread is making me think I haven’t really been doing the right thing by refusing my estate agent every time they suggest an increase to the rent my tenants pay. It doesn’t make much sense to try and keep their rent as low as possible if their attitude is the same as so many on here and they’d expect me to spend a small fortune in going to court instead of leaving when they’re given notice that the tenancy has to end.

So you are a charity worker.

lastminutedotcom22 · 08/07/2022 20:58

We rent our house and have a lettings agent - we met the landlord when we moved in as he wanted to see who was going to be in the property - fair enough and he was happy that a nice family were moving in and that we were going to be good long term tennants as each time someone moved out it inevitably costs them money, lost rent inbetween tennants, then any repairs or decorating etc....

Our rent is £750 for a modern 3 bed semi in the East Midlands we live between Nottingham and Sheffield

We have recently unexpectedly inherited some money and are planning on buying a house moving out within the next 6 months and my friend would love to rent the house we are in as it's in a much nicer area and she is in a flat with 2 kids but the rent was agreed 6 years ago and I am sure if it was re-let they would be "reviewing" this which is totally understandable on their part and I know my friend couldn't afford to pay more than we currently do.

It's just very difficult for people renting privately to keep up with the rent hikes as wages just don't go up at the same rate.

I'm quite sure that our rent hasn't been increased as we keep the house nice as if it was our own, very clean and tidy (as in if they knocked on the door there would be no issues, although legally they can't do that) always pay the rent on time and generally only have contact with them for annual gas checks and the 6 monthly inspections.

I've found If your food to a landlord they are good to you.

lastminutedotcom22 · 08/07/2022 21:11

If your "good" to the landlord not "food"

My predictive text went mad!

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