Good sentences for Logans murder.

[JustTheOneSwan]

Him 29 years.
Her 28 years.
The teen got 15years.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-61952430

I was surprised they showed the footage of Logan’s dad being told about the extent of the injuries. That felt too intrusive to watch and the fact that he could have survived if they’d sought help. I just can’t comprehend what horrors that poor little boy was subjected to.

Yes as we are not able to dispose of them, the only other suitable thing is a life inside.

Feel sorry for prison officers having to see these scummers everyday though.

Cole was apparently a racist and couldn't stand the contact. Another strand to poor Logans abuse.

Not a clue - the article I read didn't mention either of them.

The last time Logan's dad saw him was when AW took him to visit him.
AW said in court that Logan was then constantly questioned by JC as to what his mum and dad had been doing, because AW claimed Logan lied and said they'd been in bed together. I don't think they wanted him to have any contact at all with his dad.

It should be illegal for mothers to prevent fathers access to their own children without any reason.

That poor poor child. Just horrendous.

Makes me wish his dad had gotten parental care for him.

However, I do not agree to the death penalty at all.

Let them languish in jail.

I can't understand these women who let these evil men take over their lives and homes to the detriment of their own child. (Not excusing them! They are as equally evil!).

I am absolutely pig sick of hearing these lowlife oxygen thieves who shack up together bringing children into the mix described as stepmother, stepfather and their horrible offspring as stepbrothers/sisters.

They are step-nothings.

Rest in peace Logan 💘😢 I hope they all spend the rest of their miserable lives suffering every single second of every single day, like they made poor little Logan suffer.

@mnhq why was my post deleted for bring ‘identifying’ ? The name of the teenager is reported in the news and on the documentary that was on itv this evening.

That John Cole character has had a hard paper round. 40????

This absolutely. It happens far too much. Poor Logan would likely still be alive had his father still been in the mix.

As for Logans 'mother' - I use the term loosely - she seemed to have massively downgraded in terms of partner choice. It seems outwardly, that she might have been very depressed and possibly dealing with low self-esteem at the time she met Mr Cole and then felt motivated thereafter to prioritize keeping the relationship in order to avoid being alone and/or without sexual intimacy.
The relationship seems to have been an insecure attachment based on 'reward and deprivation' and relationships like that can become all-consuming mentally and emotionally. It's a form of drip feed abuse really, and it wouldn't have left much headspace (her partner would take up all her mental energy) or emotional resources for the caring responsibilities of a child (which children take huge emotional resources) when her own needs aren't also/have never been met. So cruelty and impatience would have been dominant responses. But paradoxically, that does not mean she didn't love him as far as she was able. Simply that she literally hasn't the resources to be a protector, nurturer, provider, etc to a child which has demands that must be met and under the power of a dominant partner wouldn't be able to act in her child's welfare.
It's relatively common in these situations for previously half decent mothers to then become ineffective protectors under the influence of a dominant man.

But can someone explain how SS allowed this? (Correct me where I'm wrong I missed a few parts of the program) Why didn't they see a new man moving in as a big red flag? Let the violent brother move in? Not inform the biological father fgs?

Another thing that struck me was that Logan's real dad was clearly either mixed raced or black, with, it seemed (at the end) at least possibly, some black family members. Why didn't Social Services think that it was important that Logan retain a link to his father and by extension his father's culture and heritage? Why did they think it was ok for his father and by extension his heritage to be cut off? They seem to place emphasis on this in adoption cases - the child must retain exposure to their cultural heritage - but not when it comes to a parent being removed?

I'm so glad the Father is fighting for the right of non-residential parents to be informed when SS are involved with their children. I found a need for that gob smackingly shocking.

Useless social services YET again. Despicable.

Social services employ too many people that are wet behind the ears and seem adept at having the wool pulled over their eyes. 20 minutes a social worker was at Logan’s house and she didn’t check on him once. Didn’t even look through his bedroom door. And where have we heard this before where SS don’t even bother to check the child? Oh yes, Baby P, Star, Arthur, I could go on. They are not fit for purpose. Useless is a word that springs to mind.

I've said this so many times, wishy washy social workers just don't cut it, we need tougher, kick the door down types who won't be fobbed off with pathetic excuses, won't take no for an answer at being let in, police assistance if necessary. Yes it might seem heavy handed but we can't keep letting children die like this.

I read somewhere at the beginning of the case that there was a baby in the house too, but this doesn't seem to have been reported extensively.

Totally agree lollipoprainbow. The social workers I have come across have been I’m afraid to say, worse than useless (and he was a bloke, old school no nonsense type who was hounded out of his job). Too many people with no idea or life experience about a life of poverty, cycles of violence etc are going into these jobs. We need recruitment from people who have some life experience, not people who did a course at uni.

Yes Logan had a younger sibling.

Poor wee thing.

Logan looked SO like my ds did at that age. :(

i agree we need to radically overhaul SS.

What's absolutely appalling is that mulligans social worker appears to have lied about the foster parents warnings, ignored calls from other social workers alerting her to the danger to logan, and not carried out proper checks of mulligan . Where is the accountability? Poor, poor logan never stood a chance. Let down by every single adult in his life.

The social workers dealing with my partners 3 young children (5,8 and 12 and all on child protection plans for 3 years) living with their mother, allowed her to pick up her children from school on the same day that her gp urgently referred her to a&e for suspected psychosis, they smelt cannabis strongly in her house and knew she had told the doctor her child was a portal for evil spirits. The eldest had contacted his dad to say his mum had 'lost the plot' and that he wanted to kill himself. When we presented this info to the social workers they said NOTHING to their father. It's a joke, a cover up and downright dangerous. There is no way we can hold them to account for the abuse they are allowing the children to be subjected to. They are aiding abuse. There appears to be nothing we can do.

NO the vile bastards should never leave prison

What's happened to the younger sibling?

I'm surprised- beyond surprised- that Logan and his sibling were left with them despite the earlier concerns. I'm surprised that their dad was denied access or custody given the CP concerns.

I can understand- though not condone- the older boy being placed there, given the problems they had with him at the foster home. The little ones should have been removed though.

SS are increasingly failing the difficult cases. Picking off the easy marks and keeping their results up but failing the most vulnerable at risk children.
I've no doubt they are underfunded and no doubt the people who are SW mostly have the best intentions but it isn't working and the price of failure is too high. Children being tortured can't ever be tolerated.
The people who are attracted to and can afford to become SW just don't have the right skill set to deal with the issues they are tasked with.

@ticktickticktickBOOM Jesus, I don't have words for that. No wonder so many kids are being murdered, how can they be getting it so wrong.

I don’t know how I never heard about this until now, I’m sickened, I cannot ever imagine raising a finger to my girl. In these circumstances a very slow, and very painful death is required for all three of them.

so sorry Logan wasn’t saved.