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Red plane on Flightradar24 over Manchester.

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Cheeseandlobster · 27/06/2022 12:05

Are there any fellow Flightradar geeks on here? There is a red tui plane over Manchester right now squaking. Any idea why?

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sashh · 28/06/2022 01:45

Well that was an exciting wake up read.

BTW planes Squawk all the time, they basically put out a constant signal that tells ATC and other planes what they are (civil, military etc) the pilots can change it to indicate an emergency or they can switch it off which is what the missing Malaysian flight did.

BarbaraofSeville · 28/06/2022 05:06

dunBle · 28/06/2022 00:33

Is that the one where they have to close the road when the planes come in to land?

Yes, because there's effectively a runway - road level crossing.

We've flown into Gib a few times so also 'know'. It didn't help that we watched one of those '10 most dangerous airports because the local geography makes it really unpredictable for the pilots' programmes just before we went once.

The rock causes weird strong winds as well as being a great big lump next to the airport to not fly into.

In the days of green and amber countries the fear was a diversion to Malaga, which is always a risk because instead of quarantine free green country travel you then faced an unexpected 10 days of self isolation on your return to the UK because you'd been in Spain, which was amber.

CandyLeBonBon · 28/06/2022 07:09

AgathaMystery · 28/06/2022 00:36

Such a cool thread!

I love listening to ATC - but didn’t know about flight tracking.

I was recently the only medical professional on a long haul flight that had a medical emergency. The crew were helpful in a v v basic way (never get seriously ill on a plane, you’re fucked, trust me) but left it to me to decide if we needed to land! I was assured the captain would follow what I wanted.

as it was, we almost landed twice but made it to our destination. So I’m assuming the plane I was on would have been red on the flight tracker?

Wow that must have been some responsibility!

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notimagain · 28/06/2022 08:07

Sorry if this post makes me sound like a bear with a sore head still to have coffee but a few posts have popped up with regard to listening to ATC on scanners, airband radios etc. There's a reason I put a 🤐in the first post that mentioned it..

Unless the law has changed very recently for quaint reasons that go way back, listening to ATC/aircraft radio traffic is illegal in the UK unless you have the appropriate specialist licence..

We know the reality - that the enthusiasts in the UK have done it for years and the authorities turn a blind eye, but certainly repeating what is heard or rebroadcasting/repeating anything (e.g. via the web, as happens in the US) is or at least was legally a no, no.

Malbecfan · 28/06/2022 11:07

@notimagain you are correct but authorities turn a blind eye to it. Go to any viewing spot and there will be an enthusiast with a radio. It is also illegal to broadcast ATC in the UK, something that certain internet streamers try to circumvent.

It is fine to listen and broadcast ATC in the USA.

Latenightreader · 28/06/2022 11:51

bendmeoverbackwards · 27/06/2022 22:20

That’s interesting thank you. I keep meaning to book myself onto a fear of flying course, I’d love to be more relaxed on flights. I think if understand the science, I might feel better.

I did a course at Manchester Airport a few years ago. It helped a lot.

notimagain · 28/06/2022 12:10

Malbecfan · 28/06/2022 11:07

@notimagain you are correct but authorities turn a blind eye to it. Go to any viewing spot and there will be an enthusiast with a radio. It is also illegal to broadcast ATC in the UK, something that certain internet streamers try to circumvent.

It is fine to listen and broadcast ATC in the USA.

Errr, yes absolutely aware of all the above...that's why I did say:

"We know the reality - that the enthusiasts in the UK have done it for years and the authorities turn a blind eye,"..

And yes, know all about the US ....I've even been able to hear myself on playback a US ATC feed site (In my defence I was bored and it was very AM in a hotel somewhere)..but that's the States, their trainset.

Like it or not the UK rules are objectively different, so for example unlike the US steamers the UK video equivalents don't generally risk broadcasting live ATC from Tower/Ground over the as part of their broadcasts, and whilst on occasions it's been very obvious where some of the more enthusiastic commentators have got info from they are pretty savvy about revealing the source.

Ultimately I don't think anybody is going to have a knock on the door because they are listening to ATC/aircraft conversations, but I'm maybe just trying to give a heads up that some people here might not be aware of the factual state of play and I would certainly be wary of perhaps repeating what was heard, even in the form of writing, on a public forum.

HTH.

Crikeyalmighty · 28/06/2022 13:41

My son loves Flightradar- he watches it for entertainment - when he was younger he always wanted to be a pilot- I can't tell you the number of times between ages 10to 16 we have been stood in tunnel waiting for him to come out the cock pitand he's very knowledgable. Sadly he realised that he just isn't organised enough mentally- so he went into IT instead !

CandyLeBonBon · 28/06/2022 14:43

What is THIS all about???

Red plane on Flightradar24 over Manchester.
SamBeckettslastleap · 28/06/2022 15:04

A less uncouth poster may suggest they are drawing spectacles.

CandyLeBonBon · 28/06/2022 15:09

SamBeckettslastleap · 28/06/2022 15:04

A less uncouth poster may suggest they are drawing spectacles.

It did cross my mind! Maybe a coastguard plane or something?

Red plane on Flightradar24 over Manchester.
notimagain · 28/06/2022 15:09

CandyLeBonBon · 28/06/2022 14:43

What is THIS all about???

It's an odd un...very low ground speed, altitude absolutely pegged at 1125 feet without any variation at all, no info on flightradar such as aircraft registration and not visible at all, at least ATM, on at least one other tracker site...

If it's genuinely something airborne then it has to be a very accurately flown drone, microlight or similar....other than that ??? ?

3monkeybars · 28/06/2022 16:12

gottaloveascamhun · 27/06/2022 21:07

@3monkeybars was your pre covid scary flight Prague to Bournemouth by any chance? Redirected to Brussels to land? I was on that flight 😱

I think it was Hamburg to Brussels (used to fly a lot around Europe for work pre-Covid) - I remember some colleagues on different flights getting grounded at different points in Europe and thinking "it can't be that bad if we're still flying". It bloody was!!!

I called my mum to tell her I loved her as soon as we hit the earth

CandyLeBonBon · 28/06/2022 19:46

@notimagain ooh yes - didn't think about a drone - tjat would make sense!

Downnotdown · 28/06/2022 22:20

Someone gave a link to a Manchester Airport webcam earlier in this thread. Does anyone know what the set-up is with that please?

I was having a look this afternoon and it just didn't look right somehow, almost as if it's a video game of some sort.

(I can't find it in my history now to add the link)

whenwillthemadnessend · 28/06/2022 22:44

@DandelionSoup
Blimey that sounds a awful flight reading that article

notimagain · 29/06/2022 07:48

whenwillthemadnessend · 28/06/2022 22:44

@DandelionSoup
Blimey that sounds a awful flight reading that article

Read the newspaper article.

[speculating,] From what has been written there it sounds like the engine problem, at least in part, was what's known as a surge/compressor stall. That where the airflow through the engine gets disturbed and you get disruption to the combustion process.

Big surges often result in a series of bangs/pops and flames out of the engine intake. They can certainly sound very disturbing and looks spectacular (especially at night) but on a scale of mechanical problems they are more akin to a car backfiring than an engine exploding.

Surges sometime clear all by themselves if they are caused by a temporary disturbance to airflow. OTOH they can be caused by birdstrikes or minor engine damage deep inside the engine, in which case the engine has to be shutdown.

As for the turbulence mentioned - You can get vibration in the event of severe engine failure but looking at the images of the aircraft taxiing in there doesn't appear to be any obvious damage to the engine(s) or airframe...

I wonder if they got unlucky with where they were holding to reduce weight and the turbulence was the good old fashioned "weather" related stuff, rather than anything to do with the engine failure?

[/turbulence]

notimagain · 29/06/2022 08:21

Sorry @DandelionSoup, I just noticed that opening sentence might have sounded a bit curt to say the least..

It would have been better worded as "I've just read the newspaper article"...

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