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Red plane on Flightradar24 over Manchester.

369 replies

Cheeseandlobster · 27/06/2022 12:05

Are there any fellow Flightradar geeks on here? There is a red tui plane over Manchester right now squaking. Any idea why?

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SamBeckettslastleap · 27/06/2022 15:23

Not fun, they've been U.K. there over 2hrs doing loop the loops.

They were not doing loop the loops.

😆now that would have been eventful.

justasking111 · 27/06/2022 15:24

Daughters friends were involved in this mess, they returned home traumatized

notimagain · 27/06/2022 15:27

There's been talk of an airspace change for Manchester/East Mids for some time but how far the project has progressed and whether any arrival/departure routes have actually changed recently I don't know.

live-webadmin-media.s3.amazonaws.com/media/7657/ah_mag_exploration_spreads_manchester_v21_digital_awk_hires.pdf

I do know that as aircraft/crews have been able to navigate with more accuracy (GPS and other technologies) over recent years it's not uncommon to see terminal area routes, particularly the departure ones, very near airports worldwide being tweeked for noise control reasons, but if you live more than 15-20 miles from an airport I would be surprised if any such changes would make an obvious audible difference.

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etulosba · 27/06/2022 15:31

They were not doing loop the loops.

Can you imagine the state of the passengers if they had been, for two hours.

Red plane on Flightradar24 over Manchester.
WatchoRulo · 27/06/2022 15:37

Considering most passenger jets can't fly inverted, they wouldn't have done that for 2 hours.

SheWhoWontBeNamed · 27/06/2022 15:40

Thanks, @notimagain. We're about 5 miles east of the airport in a built-up residential area. Between 6.30 and 7.39 am this morning alone there were 18 separate instances of aircraft engine noise. This has been going on for weeks; not just in the mornings but throughout the day. We're 'serenaded' nightly by a low-flying plane at 11.30pm. Can't get a straight answer from the airport authorities.

ivykaty44 · 27/06/2022 15:47

We are at Boa Vista with the passengers that were supposed to be flying home to Manchester on the red plane.

they were up there waiting to land for 3 hours

the passengers here are waiting for rooms to be assigned to them for an extra night

they’ll travel home tomorrow when the original flight is reinstated

obv those in Manchester lose a day and those in Bia Vista get an extra night

notimagain · 27/06/2022 15:50

Bit of background/stats to back up a comment I've made upthread a couple of times about medical emergencies, from the CAA from 2017:

"Declared emergencies are among the occurrences that must be reported to us. In 2017, there were nearly 2,000 declared emergencies, representing 6% of the occurrences reported to us. Statistically, this corresponds to six emergencies per day involving UK aviation." (my emphasis)

and:

"Of these emergencies, nearly 66% are due to passenger medical issues."

www.caa.co.uk/safety-initiatives-and-resources/aviation-safety-review/emergencies/

notimagain · 27/06/2022 16:25

SheWhoWontBeNamed · 27/06/2022 15:40

Thanks, @notimagain. We're about 5 miles east of the airport in a built-up residential area. Between 6.30 and 7.39 am this morning alone there were 18 separate instances of aircraft engine noise. This has been going on for weeks; not just in the mornings but throughout the day. We're 'serenaded' nightly by a low-flying plane at 11.30pm. Can't get a straight answer from the airport authorities.

Hi again..

Having had time to kill I've used the replay function on Flightradar to look at Manchester this AM and it looks like all the arrivals AM today landed to the south west and for the last 10 miles or so followed the old fashioned traditional straight in route that brings them in over Stockport, and Heald Green, so there's no obvious change there.

Looking at yesterday I can see there was a stream of (mainly Easyjet) aircraft arriving around 1130, but again everybody, at least last night, was on the extended runway centreline well out to the north east of the airport.

It would be time consuming for you but maybe you could tie in noise with particular flights on Flightradar and present that to the authorities...is the 1130PM noise down to a particular flight that regularly uses a maybe noisier aircraft?

PurpleFlower1983 · 27/06/2022 16:54

My friend said the engine blew mid air and they were terrified! Thought they would be texting their I love yous!

CoffeeWithCheese · 27/06/2022 16:55

notimagain · 27/06/2022 15:27

There's been talk of an airspace change for Manchester/East Mids for some time but how far the project has progressed and whether any arrival/departure routes have actually changed recently I don't know.

live-webadmin-media.s3.amazonaws.com/media/7657/ah_mag_exploration_spreads_manchester_v21_digital_awk_hires.pdf

I do know that as aircraft/crews have been able to navigate with more accuracy (GPS and other technologies) over recent years it's not uncommon to see terminal area routes, particularly the departure ones, very near airports worldwide being tweeked for noise control reasons, but if you live more than 15-20 miles from an airport I would be surprised if any such changes would make an obvious audible difference.

We've had a fair increase in the number of planes going over here on the way to East Midlands - have always been under the flightpath but the amount has really increased. Not that I tend to give it that much thought though.

PurpleFlower1983 · 27/06/2022 16:56

Friend in Cape Verde has been told tomorrow, possibly Wednesday!

MissNothing1991 · 27/06/2022 16:59

alwaysmovingforwards · 27/06/2022 12:35

Just seen on twitter they've given a code 7700 general emergency. They're keeping slow and low 7000ft 250kts looping home airport (MAN).

Not fun, they've been U.K. there over 2hrs doing loop the loops.

I am sorry, the situation itself wasn't funny, sounded truly terrifying and I wouldn't wish it upon anyone. But I literally nearly wet myself at the thought you truly believed a passenger jet was 'doing loop the loops' for over 2 hours 🤣🤣

Rubygloomy · 27/06/2022 17:07

MissNothing1991 · 27/06/2022 16:59

I am sorry, the situation itself wasn't funny, sounded truly terrifying and I wouldn't wish it upon anyone. But I literally nearly wet myself at the thought you truly believed a passenger jet was 'doing loop the loops' for over 2 hours 🤣🤣

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She obviously meant flying in circles on the tracker. Not vertical loops.

LittleRainbowCupcake · 27/06/2022 17:09

PurpleFlower1983 · 27/06/2022 16:54

My friend said the engine blew mid air and they were terrified! Thought they would be texting their I love yous!

This happened to us flying with Flybe 5 years ago and we had to return to Glasgow. I’ve never been so petrified in my life. I hope your friend is ok, it took me years to fly again after it.

RebOrHon · 27/06/2022 17:09

Thanks again,@notimagain and apologies to everyone else for detailing - thought someone on here might have an insight - they usually do!
Very glad to hear that the the red plane passengers are all safe

DangerouslyBored · 27/06/2022 17:13

MissNothing1991 · 27/06/2022 16:59

I am sorry, the situation itself wasn't funny, sounded truly terrifying and I wouldn't wish it upon anyone. But I literally nearly wet myself at the thought you truly believed a passenger jet was 'doing loop the loops' for over 2 hours 🤣🤣

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It’s really not that funny Confused

Legrandsophie · 27/06/2022 17:14

The thing to remember about engines over heating and drying out mid air is that is the best time for it to happen (appart from on the ground, obviously). Once you are up and at altitude the aircraft has the speed and the lift to maintain safe flight without compromising safety.

The problem is that we have all seen too many Hollywood films where planes start to drop out of the air as soon as one engine goes.

There have been a few incidents over the years of doubt engine failure too. A good pilot can still get you down and safely landed.

Shade17 · 27/06/2022 17:25

Good way to remember the emergency squawk codes - 75, taken alive; 76, radio nix; 77, going to heaven.

PinkTonic · 27/06/2022 17:33

Just reading on the Manchester evening news it was an engine out so why would they stay up so long?

ivykaty44 · 27/06/2022 17:36

PurpleFlower1983

those here we have meet are enjoying the beach and an extra night at least

those in U.K., what a terrible experience

LittleRen · 27/06/2022 17:43

@PinkTonic dumping fuel. Landing with a full tank is possible but will probably damage the landing gear, fuselage and runway. Flying on one engine would be the safer option and perfectly possible.

PinkTonic · 27/06/2022 17:54

LittleRen · 27/06/2022 17:43

@PinkTonic dumping fuel. Landing with a full tank is possible but will probably damage the landing gear, fuselage and runway. Flying on one engine would be the safer option and perfectly possible.

Ah thanks for answering. How frightening for the passengers. We had a go around at JFK and it was very disconcerting, must be horrible up there for hours if you know something is wrong.

motogirl · 27/06/2022 17:55

Sounds like it could have been a bird strike. Pilot sounds like he was very calm, just what you need

FabulousFryingpan · 27/06/2022 18:02

Just to add my story here. I was once on a flight coming from one of the Northern Isles. We took off and only a few minutes in there was an engine problem (cockpit alert) and they had to switch off the engine. One of the two engines (SAAB/Embraer turboprop, 35 seats). Flight attendant looked quite stressed, we were advised to take off glasses and stuff like dentures, and practice the brace position.

Aircraft went quite low and circled over the working engine side back to the airport. We were so low it was nearly possible to read the licence plates on the cars on one of the small islands, definitely seeing the people walking around, coming out of cars and going into buildings. Landed safely but they couldn't fix the issue. A prominent person who was on the flight (or one of their minders) took a photograph of the non-working propeller.

When we finally loaded on the next flight back to the mainland, everyone was paying rapt attention to the flight safety demonstration...