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1 in 4 pregnancies ends in abortion?

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MultiBird · 25/06/2022 16:38

Reading the BBC article about the US ruling, it says that in the US 1 in 6 pregnancies ends in abortion, which I thought seemed very high, but I looked it up and it's 1 in 4 in UK.

I'd fight very hard indeed if anyone challenged a woman's right to choose here, but isn't that very high? Is there some truth in the argument that it's being used as contraception? I've heard it said before and dismissed it as ridiculous but 25%?!

Bear with me a sec and I'll post the links.

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Suzi888 · 25/06/2022 20:24

@FlyingMasticatedParticles I am not pro life, stop the abortions at once brigade but Jeez come on. Women should be able to choose 100%!

But

You don’t ‘just’ take two pills and merrily go about your day do you? The whole thing is a pain in the ass for her- by her own admittance. It’s not always ‘just two pills either’. It’s sat crying with pain on the toilet. It’s going to a clinic to have a medical procedure. Her DH should get a vasectomy imo! Or you know, use a bloody condom. Be damned if I’d put myself through it.

RadicalisedByMumzNet · 25/06/2022 20:24

RenegadeMatron · 25/06/2022 20:11

I’m getting so sick of these opinions - and so often from women.

‘I’m pro-choice - but - I really don’t like women just running around having abortions’.

Honestly - there are not enough 🙄 in the world.

Someone else’s abortion impacts on you in no way at all. It’s nothing to do with you. It’s none of your business.

If someone gets pregnant and doesn’t want to have a baby, that impacts on you in no way at all. Pressuring or forcing someone to have a baby they don’t want - because irrelevant you think they should really have it - is not the way forward.

Keep your beak out of it.

I would argue that forcing a woman to not have an abortion impacts other people.

Unwanted children, children born who will cause a family that is currently coping to fail, children born from incest, or children born with disabilities that are incompatible with life, children born which mean a woman can not access the labour market or who will have to drop out of education/be estranged from their families will have a far reaching social and economic costs.

FlyingMasticatedParticles · 25/06/2022 20:26

Suzi888 · 25/06/2022 20:24

@FlyingMasticatedParticles I am not pro life, stop the abortions at once brigade but Jeez come on. Women should be able to choose 100%!

But

You don’t ‘just’ take two pills and merrily go about your day do you? The whole thing is a pain in the ass for her- by her own admittance. It’s not always ‘just two pills either’. It’s sat crying with pain on the toilet. It’s going to a clinic to have a medical procedure. Her DH should get a vasectomy imo! Or you know, use a bloody condom. Be damned if I’d put myself through it.

Well don't then. But she has clearly weighed up her options and decided on that one. It doesn't affect you in the slightest.

Taking the pill isn't just 'taking a pill' either.

Pippinbird · 25/06/2022 20:28

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Suzi888 · 25/06/2022 20:29

BurnDownTheDiscoHangTheDJ · 25/06/2022 19:26

And? Who cares if it’s being used as contraception. I believe in abortion being freely available for everyone for whatever reason, so what business is it of mine if 25% of all pregnancies end in abortion? It’s not like there’s an especially low birth rate and we need the bodies.

the statistic doesn’t change my view and I don’t really understand why it should.

Well how much does it cost the NHS? Surely it causes stress on the body to do this repeatedly? If someone is using abortion for contraception they have some issues that need addressing imo.

I think women should be able to choose- but there’s something else going on if you choose to repeatedly have abortions.

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Suzi888 · 25/06/2022 20:31

@FlyingMasticatedParticles so use a condom.

@Pippinbird 🙄 it’s an Internet forum.

placewherewebelong · 25/06/2022 20:31

MrsTerryPratchett · 25/06/2022 19:23

The only authority on abortion is the woman herself.

this

placewherewebelong · 25/06/2022 20:32

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You ok there, hun? telling us what do do?

Suzi888 · 25/06/2022 20:32

I’m off now anyway, you can’t have a proper discussion on here anymore. 🙄

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placewherewebelong · 25/06/2022 20:33

Suzi888 · 25/06/2022 20:32

I’m off now anyway, you can’t have a proper discussion on here anymore. 🙄

You can, ignore the strange one!

placewherewebelong · 25/06/2022 20:34

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Oh youre back again.

Could you explain why you think its okay to tell us not to engage with a poster?

FlyingMasticatedParticles · 25/06/2022 20:34

Suzi888 · 25/06/2022 20:29

Well how much does it cost the NHS? Surely it causes stress on the body to do this repeatedly? If someone is using abortion for contraception they have some issues that need addressing imo.

I think women should be able to choose- but there’s something else going on if you choose to repeatedly have abortions.

Don't you think other contraception costs the NHS money? Complications from other contraception? Unwanted children arguably very expensive also. 'stress on the body' not your body 🤷🏻

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Barelyfunctioning3 · 25/06/2022 20:36

Suzi888 · 25/06/2022 20:32

I’m off now anyway, you can’t have a proper discussion on here anymore. 🙄

Yup. It's ridiculous.

FlyingMasticatedParticles · 25/06/2022 20:36

@Suzi888 how about you mind your own business about how other women decide to deal with unwanted pregnancies whether that is beforehand or after it has occured.

Ncwinc · 25/06/2022 20:38

As early as possible, as late as necessary.

Pippinbird · 25/06/2022 20:39

As early as possible, as late as necessary

ivykaty44 · 25/06/2022 20:40

&&&prettylittlethingss
Does the statistic include terminations for medical reasons? (Eg risk to mother / babies life?)&&&

¥¥¥That figure is very high!
Yes, I imagine so, but still 25%?¥¥¥

one in 4 pregnancies end in miscarriage and if those what is the % that are missed miscarriages where a termination has to be performed?

I had a missed miscarriage and had to be booked in for a termination and that was the medical term for the procedure

Barelyfunctioning3 · 25/06/2022 20:41

Everybody is entitled to their own opinion. There are MNers who are against cavalier use of abortion and carelessness with contraception. Deal with it.

You cannot police people's thoughts any more than people can police what other people do with their bodies.

Note the hypocrisy of posters telling others to "keep their beak out" yet jumping on people for expressing an opinion.

If women want to subject their bodies to repeated uncomfortable procedures that are entirely avoidable then absolutely they can do that, but people are entitled to question the logic.

DorritLittle · 25/06/2022 20:42

If 1 in 4 pregnancies ends in abortion then thank goodness for safe abortion.

The only thing about it that is shocking is that it brings home just how many women will now either access unsafe abortion in America, or be forced to give birth.

Anyone handwringing about why women have one (which is none of our business) is on the side of the US senate, not of women.

Applesandroses · 25/06/2022 20:43

Suzi888 · 25/06/2022 20:29

Well how much does it cost the NHS? Surely it causes stress on the body to do this repeatedly? If someone is using abortion for contraception they have some issues that need addressing imo.

I think women should be able to choose- but there’s something else going on if you choose to repeatedly have abortions.

You can't honestly be dismissing abortion as a viable option because of the cost on the NHS?

If you add up the cost of the pre natal scans, the midwives, health visitors, costs of labour, c-sections where necessary therefore anaesthesiologists, gynaecologists etc etc etc you could have multiple abortions and still not cost the NHS as much as the pregnancy and childbirth alone of a child, never mind the ongoing costs to the NHS.

Contraception, particularly hormonal contraception puts stresses on the body, yet society expects women to take on these stresses alone. Male contraceptive pills never made it to market because of side effects that female contraceptive pills list as standard.

In fact given the contraceptive pill can cause blood clots and cancer and the abortion pill does not it might even be possible that an abortion is medically more sensible than taking hormonal contraception for years.

Pippinbird · 25/06/2022 20:43

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The only troll on here is you and you are irritating as fuck, spamming the thread and trying to police the discussion. As previously, bore off.