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Tory MP tweets support for overturning of Roe Vs Wade

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GreenLunchBox · 24/06/2022 22:50

To those who think it couldn't happen over here.....
twitter.com/sunflowersutra1/status/1540363255557799936?t=oFfgeh0xucIIhF8ElGT1sQ&s=19

Rees Mogg is anti-abortion too. This government is heading towards fascism already, changing any laws that stop them doing what they want.

I wish they spoke a different language in America because maybe then we wouldn't keep importing their shit ideas. Europe don't seem to keep copying America like we do

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amoosee · 25/06/2022 18:21

Says someone who thinks you can say no to rape.

depremesnil · 25/06/2022 18:26

@Ohhhappyday
Clinics are beginning to close. Clinics that also provide STD testing, miscarriage treatment, prenatal care councelling services, contraception, smear tests, breast cancer screenings, fertility treatment and HIV medication, often for the poorest and most vulnerable in society. Are you also celebrating this?

CleverKnot · 25/06/2022 20:50

Good Friday agreement mentions the HRA.
leave HRA and suddenly the GFA is a lot less binding on Uk Govt.
Be careful what you wish for.

Rinatinabina · 25/06/2022 21:05

I thought Europe was getting less religious not more. I really don’t think you can compare the UK to the USA on this (thank fuck). It’s a completely different culture, presidential candidates have to make it clear they believe in god (I watched debates and speeches where god comes up a lot). Here, if someone started banging on about god all the time I think they would struggle to be frank.

I don’t really know that many believers but not a single one has expressed a desire for a theocracy.

www.politicshome.com/news/article/bpas-polling-uk-voters-prochoice-political-spectrum

Yeah don’t think we are going to be banning abortion anytime soon.

GreenLunchBox · 25/06/2022 22:26

Did you see all the lunatics celebrating on the streets? Women in their twenties jumping up and down, cheering and hugging each other Confused

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GreenLunchBox · 25/06/2022 23:54

I'll just leave this here for all the 'it could never happen here' crowd: twitter.com/MarinaPurkiss/status/1540811783522455556?s=19

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GreenLunchBox · 25/06/2022 23:56

I don't remember the same energy for NI that the USA is getting Confused

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hyperbyke · 26/06/2022 00:12

Even Bojo thinks this is backwards, which might give me some comfort of he didn't u-turn every five seconds.

I'm not sure this is likely to happen here, at least not in the near future. But then I also heard somewhere that Walter the Softy is thinking about a run at the PM job.

PickAChew · 26/06/2022 00:16

Ohhhappyday · 24/06/2022 23:43

Don’t be a wally. He’s entitled to his opinion. I’m absolutely delighted by the news from the US today btw.

Why? How does it improve your life? I presume no one was ever going to force you to have an abortion that this legislation has now prevented.

Theblondestoftheblonde · 26/06/2022 00:17

Ohhhappyday · 24/06/2022 23:43

Don’t be a wally. He’s entitled to his opinion. I’m absolutely delighted by the news from the US today btw.

ODFOD

GreenLunchBox · 26/06/2022 00:30

hyperbyke · 26/06/2022 00:12

Even Bojo thinks this is backwards, which might give me some comfort of he didn't u-turn every five seconds.

I'm not sure this is likely to happen here, at least not in the near future. But then I also heard somewhere that Walter the Softy is thinking about a run at the PM job.

He said it was backwards, which is a factual statement. He didn't actually condemn it though, did he?

Then again he's made lots of lovers have abortions so I'm sure he would want the option to be there. But he's rich that they'd probably always have access even if it was banned.Then again he's a devout Catholic now, isn't he, so maybe the poor love is conflicted 😭

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BewareTheLibrarians · 26/06/2022 00:34

Florenz · 25/06/2022 17:20

Human Rights Act has nothing to do with the repeal of Roe vs Wade. And I would be glad to see the HRA repealed in this country as it has done nothing positive, it's just something criminals hide behind, when they have spent their lives showing no consideration for the rights of their victims.

If this is even slightly true (it’s not) then why have so many women’s charities come out to condemn scrapping the Human Rights Act?

Believing that the Human Rights Act is just “something criminals hide behind” shows a worrying lack of understanding. Just have a read below to see who it protects:

“The Court’s unanimous ruling is also a powerful affirmation of the importance of the UK Human Rights Act (HRA). For years, some tabloids and UK politicians have grotesquely misrepresented the Act, describing it as “a charter for terrorists and criminals.” Theresa May has even suggested it should be scrapped. But these claims are false and her proposal would undermine the rights of everyone living in the UK.

The act has brought countless benefits to ordinary people in the UK, including in some high-profile cases. For example, the HRA played a pivotal role in securing justice for families of the 1989 Hillsborough stadium football disaster, when 96 fans were crushed to death. Without the Act, South Yorkshire Police’s gross negligence behind the deaths would almost certainly never have been uncovered.

And the HRA has now allowed [John] Worboys’ victims to hold police responsible for their failure to properly investigate when the women first filed complaints. The case against the Metropolitan Police was brought by two rape victims, who reported their attacks back in 2003 and 2007. But their concerns were treated dismissively and no action was taken. Worboys went on to rape and assault women many more times, until he was finally convicted in 2009. The Met have said that Worboys may have committed up to 100 rapes in London between 2002 and 2008.”

www.hrw.org/news/2018/02/23/uks-black-cab-rapist-ruling-shows-importance-human-rights-act

BewareTheLibrarians · 26/06/2022 00:40

Incidentally @GreenLunchBox didn’t he delete that tweet pretty quickly when one of the Supreme Court judges said that gay marriage was the next target on their list, and that MP is a gay, married man?

“First they came for X and I said nothing” in full effect there. Awful man. At least he was stupid enough to be awful in public so people can see who he is.

ErrolTheDragon · 26/06/2022 08:22

This clarifies the huge difference between the U.K. and US on abortion.

Women in the U.K. have rights enshrined in law, proper thought-out legislation which requires our elected representatives to alter it. The US never did - the rights of women rested precariously on the precedent of Roe vs Wade, and therefore easily demolished by a politically appointed biased Supreme Court.

Apart from the fact it would be much harder for abortion rights to be overturned in the U.K., the very fact we have proper legislation shows a difference in attitude.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/stop-waving-the-coat-hangers-americas-abortion-madness-will-never-happen-here-ngvb3kp67?shareToken=24388f1294e1f810e2131ec4dce76f95

GreenLunchBox · 26/06/2022 09:57

BewareTheLibrarians · 26/06/2022 00:40

Incidentally @GreenLunchBox didn’t he delete that tweet pretty quickly when one of the Supreme Court judges said that gay marriage was the next target on their list, and that MP is a gay, married man?

“First they came for X and I said nothing” in full effect there. Awful man. At least he was stupid enough to be awful in public so people can see who he is.

Correct! LOL.

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RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 26/06/2022 10:02

amoosee · 25/06/2022 18:21

Says someone who thinks you can say no to rape.

They never did come back to that thread to explain their frankly ludicrous and disgusting comment

Luidaeg · 26/06/2022 10:04

GreenLunchBox · 24/06/2022 22:50

To those who think it couldn't happen over here.....
twitter.com/sunflowersutra1/status/1540363255557799936?t=oFfgeh0xucIIhF8ElGT1sQ&s=19

Rees Mogg is anti-abortion too. This government is heading towards fascism already, changing any laws that stop them doing what they want.

I wish they spoke a different language in America because maybe then we wouldn't keep importing their shit ideas. Europe don't seem to keep copying America like we do

Got a screenshot or another site?
I dont do twitter and its asking me to log in

cormorant5 · 26/06/2022 10:16

UK does NOT have a long history of persecuting Catholics.
Elizabeth 1, is on record as saying she would not inquire into an individuals conscience. She harried imprisoned those Catholics that were trying to overturn the Reformation by Revolution promoted and partly financed by France, Spain & Vatican.
Try reading a little bit of history. Compare the Burning of Protestants by Catholics.

ErrolTheDragon · 26/06/2022 10:26

cormorant5 · 26/06/2022 10:16

UK does NOT have a long history of persecuting Catholics.
Elizabeth 1, is on record as saying she would not inquire into an individuals conscience. She harried imprisoned those Catholics that were trying to overturn the Reformation by Revolution promoted and partly financed by France, Spain & Vatican.
Try reading a little bit of history. Compare the Burning of Protestants by Catholics.

Oh come off it. 'Persecution' means oppression and harassment. Sure, it worked both ways depending on who had the upper hand, but it's accurate to say that Catholicism was suppressed and catholics (along with nonconformists, atheists etc) were discriminated against.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 26/06/2022 10:43

Absolutely errol

GreenLunchBox · 26/06/2022 22:09

I've been confused about the posts I've read by women saying that they had abortions for missed miscarriages and thought 'well they're not abortions'.
Then I saw this twitter.com/RedheadHillbily/status/1540901659387338757?t=RJgweNpJewJo7-pzgmhIKA&s=19

Confused
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GreenLunchBox · 29/06/2022 00:56

Another Tory MP adds his voice to the anti-abortion movement twitter.com/adilray/status/1541807950477627392?t=HQWSfR9UzRmVdEw3DHxBfg&s=19

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GreenLunchBox · 29/06/2022 00:57

Honestly, fuck all you complacent lot

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BewareTheLibrarians · 29/06/2022 01:13

@GreenLunchBox The complacency is unreal. People will watch the government remove rights and protections from marginalised groups and cheer it on because it aligns with their prejudices, and don’t seem to realise that a government happy to remove rights from one marginalised group will happily remove them from another.

On top of the Rwanda (attempted) deportations, there are (attempted) deportations of British citizens who’ve committed no crimes (including but not limited to Windrush); the Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Act has today removed the nomadic right of Travellers in the UK. And some will cheer that on. And then members of the government, seeing the lack of opposition to removal of rights of some groups, feel empowered to keep going - to stand up and say in public that women should have no bodily autonomy. To vote to remove victims’ powers to hold the police and courts to account for failures to investigate and charge.

After all, no-one cared when it was happening to other people.

GreenLunchBox · 29/06/2022 01:46

I've been on the line to the police 101 number for an hour and am still waiting. This is the state we are in and nobody cares because it's not affected them. I cared before I needed them and I finally need them.

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